NavyHopeful
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So, I have a few points, and I can sympathize having dealt with things of this nature both at the barracks and the apartment PMQ levels.
1. Reporting or pointing out that people are being little shits in shacks isn't "snitching" or "ratting" them out, unless you provide names. If you want to keep their names out your mouth, be prepared for everyone to embrace the punishment from a few little dickheads' antics.
2. See something, say something. Communal living is, unfortunately, a fact of life for many within the CAF (and in general). We ALL have to abide the rules, or suffer the consequences. We are all (supposedly) adults, and are expected to accept the consequences of our actions. Which leads me to...
3. You are in your 30s. They are not. Be a leader and step up. If your PAT platoon won't have the leadership to teach these children how they should act, YOU be their role model. They will either follow your example, or they will show everyone that they really are the shitheads you say they are.
4. If you think the "phantom shitter" is fun to deal with in shacks, be thankful you didn't go Navy and have to do cleaning stations after one. IYKYK...
5. There are other people you can reach out to in order to help. This may sound a bit unconventional, but reach out to your unit padre. They may not be able to actually DO anything directly, but every CO I have ever had will lean on the padre to gauge how the unit's morale is fairing out. And these kind of issues are enough to pique the CO's interest enough that your SM (Cox'n for the Navy folk) will start kicking rocks over and find out who's been passing the buck.
I apologize if this sounds like a "figure it out" speech, but realistically, there have been a number of great suggestions already posted. What it seems like, to me anyways, is that you are concerned the answer will already be no before you even make the request. If you don't ask, the answer will ALWAYS be no, so start staffing memos up that chain. Even if by pure volume of requests gets you a few minutes in front of a supervisor to air your concerns, it's better than sitting on your hands. And if they tell you to get stuffed, and you have the regs on your side, keep pushing upwards.
My main point is, in order to get the change you want, you have to actually try to do something about it. If one of my subordinates came to me with a problem, well then yeah, that's a problem. But if they came to me with a problem and three possible solutions, well I would be more inclined to sit down and see which solution would best fit their situation.
Good luck with it, and let us know how it goes.
1. Reporting or pointing out that people are being little shits in shacks isn't "snitching" or "ratting" them out, unless you provide names. If you want to keep their names out your mouth, be prepared for everyone to embrace the punishment from a few little dickheads' antics.
2. See something, say something. Communal living is, unfortunately, a fact of life for many within the CAF (and in general). We ALL have to abide the rules, or suffer the consequences. We are all (supposedly) adults, and are expected to accept the consequences of our actions. Which leads me to...
3. You are in your 30s. They are not. Be a leader and step up. If your PAT platoon won't have the leadership to teach these children how they should act, YOU be their role model. They will either follow your example, or they will show everyone that they really are the shitheads you say they are.
4. If you think the "phantom shitter" is fun to deal with in shacks, be thankful you didn't go Navy and have to do cleaning stations after one. IYKYK...
5. There are other people you can reach out to in order to help. This may sound a bit unconventional, but reach out to your unit padre. They may not be able to actually DO anything directly, but every CO I have ever had will lean on the padre to gauge how the unit's morale is fairing out. And these kind of issues are enough to pique the CO's interest enough that your SM (Cox'n for the Navy folk) will start kicking rocks over and find out who's been passing the buck.
I apologize if this sounds like a "figure it out" speech, but realistically, there have been a number of great suggestions already posted. What it seems like, to me anyways, is that you are concerned the answer will already be no before you even make the request. If you don't ask, the answer will ALWAYS be no, so start staffing memos up that chain. Even if by pure volume of requests gets you a few minutes in front of a supervisor to air your concerns, it's better than sitting on your hands. And if they tell you to get stuffed, and you have the regs on your side, keep pushing upwards.
My main point is, in order to get the change you want, you have to actually try to do something about it. If one of my subordinates came to me with a problem, well then yeah, that's a problem. But if they came to me with a problem and three possible solutions, well I would be more inclined to sit down and see which solution would best fit their situation.
Good luck with it, and let us know how it goes.
