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Here's a story by Jeffrey Simpson in the Globe and Mail today
High level stuff and I colour code it for
Red = a BS Item or we can do way better
Green = I tend to agree
Yellow = I tend to disagree
Then a sum up
Are Canadians getting the truth about Afghanistan?
JEFFREY SIMPSON
jsimpson@globeandmail.com
July 15, 2008
Prime Minister Stephen Harper was correct last week when he said about Afghanistan: "We have serious challenges there, and we simply must make progress on governance and security ... in the next 12 to 24 months. We have got to get the situation moving in the right direction."
The implication was clear, and accurate: The "situation" is not moving in the "right direction."
Robert Gates, the U.S. Defence Secretary, agreed. "We have clearly seen an increase in violence in Afghanistan," he said.
With Mr. Harper and Mr. Gates essentially saying the same thing, why is Canada's new Chief of the Defence Staff, General Walter Natynczyk, insisting that increases in violence in Afghanistan have been "insignificant."
It is one thing to do a Hillier-esque rah-rah to rally the troops and feed the goat of the "we love the military" media in Canada, it's another to deform reality.
In March, the Manley report demanded "practical, verifiable criteria" for assessing security in Afghanistan. Nothing has apparently changed.
Canadians are still getting spin, but the spin is getting further removed from the reality being reported by every other source of information, including some Canadian media, U.S. military and diplomatic sources, European observers, the Senlis Council, writers such as Ahmed Rashid, informed academics who spend time in Afghanistan, and think tanks monitoring the Afghanistan situation. The weekend Gen. Natynczyk offered his assessment from Afghanistan, nine Americans died in a highly co-ordinated Taliban attack on a base near the Pakistan border. That same weekend, newspaper reports suggested the United States was going to draw down forces from Iraq more rapidly than had been anticipated, so that it could deploy more to Afghanistan. The United States had previously committed an additional 3,500 troops. Reports now suggest the figure might be 10,000.
A series of factors are worsening the Afghanistan situation, no matter what the outgoing and incoming Canadian defence chiefs argue.
Within Pakistan, the Taliban and its al-Qaeda allies are well established, especially in the border areas. The new Pakistani government seems to lack the power or the will to do anything about them.[/color]
Islamic madrassas and other recruiting havens are providing a steady stream of terror recruits for action in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Money from the drug trade and jihadi supporters in such places as Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States provide money to pay families who lose an offspring in the war against the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Almost everyone with even some knowledge of Pakistan believes elements within the country's security forces support the jihadis. [
Last week's bomb explosion at the Indian embassy in Kabul illustrated again the old struggle between India and Pakistan for influence in Afghanistan.
The opium trade is flourishing. NATO seems helpless to stop it, thereby giving insurgents access to ready cash.
Drying up financial resources, sealing borders and isolating insurgents from the local population are three fundamental rules of counterinsurgency warfare. NATO hasn't got a grip on any of them. Unless it does get a grip, there is no chance of winning - however winning is defined - in Afghanistan.
Similarly, NATO has far too few soldiers for such a bleak and bewildering country. Kandahar, alone, is the size of New Brunswick. Canada is deploying there about 2,300 people, of whom 800 to 1,000 can actually fight.
It was a telling comment on the state of the military that when it became apparent these numbers were too few, the cry went up not for more of our own forces but for troops from another country. That country turned out to be the United States.
Afghanistan is a country within which many elements can be fairly described as post-medieval. The code of conduct of the Pashtun, the tribal group of the South, is so foreign to Western thinking that every occupier who has encountered the code struggled to understand it.
So, too, with what passes for the governance of a country whose tribal rivalries, customs and mores go back to the mists of time. What we consider corruption is normal practice for tribal chieftains, who distribute some of the largesse to their followers and use the rest to secure their position and the security of their group against "others."
Mr. Harper was right to say the situation needs to be turned around, but he did not suggest how. It would be instructive to know what he might have in mind
My take
Completely misses the Combined Arms effect of the Alliance. Misses the non military aspects but suggests the long term culture is impervious to the West. The Govt is risk playing in the sense that there may be no solution to quiet sstabilty and we will - it has been suggested be there for a generation – the voter isn’t focussing on Afghan – he does see domestic things – Oil run –up will naturally get more attention than Afghan. Then what?
Well?
High level stuff and I colour code it for
Red = a BS Item or we can do way better
Green = I tend to agree
Yellow = I tend to disagree
Then a sum up
Are Canadians getting the truth about Afghanistan?
JEFFREY SIMPSON
jsimpson@globeandmail.com
July 15, 2008
Prime Minister Stephen Harper was correct last week when he said about Afghanistan: "We have serious challenges there, and we simply must make progress on governance and security ... in the next 12 to 24 months. We have got to get the situation moving in the right direction."
The implication was clear, and accurate: The "situation" is not moving in the "right direction."
Robert Gates, the U.S. Defence Secretary, agreed. "We have clearly seen an increase in violence in Afghanistan," he said.
With Mr. Harper and Mr. Gates essentially saying the same thing, why is Canada's new Chief of the Defence Staff, General Walter Natynczyk, insisting that increases in violence in Afghanistan have been "insignificant."
It is one thing to do a Hillier-esque rah-rah to rally the troops and feed the goat of the "we love the military" media in Canada, it's another to deform reality.
In March, the Manley report demanded "practical, verifiable criteria" for assessing security in Afghanistan. Nothing has apparently changed.
Canadians are still getting spin, but the spin is getting further removed from the reality being reported by every other source of information, including some Canadian media, U.S. military and diplomatic sources, European observers, the Senlis Council, writers such as Ahmed Rashid, informed academics who spend time in Afghanistan, and think tanks monitoring the Afghanistan situation. The weekend Gen. Natynczyk offered his assessment from Afghanistan, nine Americans died in a highly co-ordinated Taliban attack on a base near the Pakistan border. That same weekend, newspaper reports suggested the United States was going to draw down forces from Iraq more rapidly than had been anticipated, so that it could deploy more to Afghanistan. The United States had previously committed an additional 3,500 troops. Reports now suggest the figure might be 10,000.
A series of factors are worsening the Afghanistan situation, no matter what the outgoing and incoming Canadian defence chiefs argue.
Within Pakistan, the Taliban and its al-Qaeda allies are well established, especially in the border areas. The new Pakistani government seems to lack the power or the will to do anything about them.[/color]
Islamic madrassas and other recruiting havens are providing a steady stream of terror recruits for action in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Money from the drug trade and jihadi supporters in such places as Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States provide money to pay families who lose an offspring in the war against the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Almost everyone with even some knowledge of Pakistan believes elements within the country's security forces support the jihadis. [
Last week's bomb explosion at the Indian embassy in Kabul illustrated again the old struggle between India and Pakistan for influence in Afghanistan.
The opium trade is flourishing. NATO seems helpless to stop it, thereby giving insurgents access to ready cash.
Drying up financial resources, sealing borders and isolating insurgents from the local population are three fundamental rules of counterinsurgency warfare. NATO hasn't got a grip on any of them. Unless it does get a grip, there is no chance of winning - however winning is defined - in Afghanistan.
Similarly, NATO has far too few soldiers for such a bleak and bewildering country. Kandahar, alone, is the size of New Brunswick. Canada is deploying there about 2,300 people, of whom 800 to 1,000 can actually fight.
It was a telling comment on the state of the military that when it became apparent these numbers were too few, the cry went up not for more of our own forces but for troops from another country. That country turned out to be the United States.
Afghanistan is a country within which many elements can be fairly described as post-medieval. The code of conduct of the Pashtun, the tribal group of the South, is so foreign to Western thinking that every occupier who has encountered the code struggled to understand it.
So, too, with what passes for the governance of a country whose tribal rivalries, customs and mores go back to the mists of time. What we consider corruption is normal practice for tribal chieftains, who distribute some of the largesse to their followers and use the rest to secure their position and the security of their group against "others."
Mr. Harper was right to say the situation needs to be turned around, but he did not suggest how. It would be instructive to know what he might have in mind
My take
Completely misses the Combined Arms effect of the Alliance. Misses the non military aspects but suggests the long term culture is impervious to the West. The Govt is risk playing in the sense that there may be no solution to quiet sstabilty and we will - it has been suggested be there for a generation – the voter isn’t focussing on Afghan – he does see domestic things – Oil run –up will naturally get more attention than Afghan. Then what?
Well?