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Making an Effective Case for Co-op During a Subsidized Education Degree

Brasidas

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I want to build a case and submit a request to my Subsidized Education Manager to complete a co-op engineering degree (as opposed to an engineering degree without co-op work terms), which would delay my graduation and achievement of OFP by one year.

I would appreciate feedback on presenting a clear, concise, and persuasive request.

Below are descriptions of the circumstances for my trade which detail a potential deficiency in my early career development, reference to a policy which states that a subsidized education student in my trade (AERE) may be allowed to enter a co-op program, arguments which I think may be persuasive, why I want to do this, and what my past experience in and out of the CAF is.

I have been advised that:
1) there are minimal positions available for a first posting at a flying unit or 2nd line unit where I would gain familiarity with the shop floor and technicians working on aircraft.
2) My prior experience may make it less likely for me to get posted to one of these roles, instead going to Ottawa.
3) AERE is among the trades in which students may be approved for co-op

I see my case as:
1) My career will benefit from greater familiarity with airframes, project work, and working with aerospace-related companies.
2) My university's engineering co-op has a significant track-record of aerospace engineering co-op placements
3) Following completion of all of my university's aerospace-related tech electives this academic year with over 12 months of co-op employment at an aerospace company will both improve my potential learning on APP1 and help me excel in my aerospace engineering year-long capstone project in my final year of studies. Getting more out of my last year of engineering school will, in turn, make me a better aerospace engineering officer.
4) While I have no guarantees of specific co-op placements for May 2026 (when I would start approximately one year of work experience) a year in advance, I do have one explicit message from a local aerospace company expressing that "my experience could be a valuable asset to their team" and encouraging me to consider them for my placement next year. I am seeking another such statement from Cascade Aerospace, which performs life extension and overhaul work on Hercs.
5) I have a competitive advantage over all of my peers in co-op, in that I am the only candidate that employers do not have to pay. The CAF pays me, which combined with my transferrable skills from my prior career and doing all of my work terms in one shot, giving companies a free employee that can be productive with minimal supervision.

My reasoning for pushing this:
As there is a significant chance that I'll never get to a flying unit, I'd like whatever experience I can closer to airframes to inform my roles supporting them and aircrew.

Context:
I am UTPNCM AERE (civilian university) with at least 2 academic years of coursework left to complete, with no outstanding military courses or other requirements beyond APP1 (OJE, restricted to the summer prior to my last year of university), APP2 (OJE, restricted to the summer after completing university), and AOBC (6 month AERE Officer Basic Course, which I will take after APP2).

I'm otherwise doing OJE unrelated to my trade. Last year, my BTL-assigned role was supernumerary to an OR, which at least allowed me to knock off my CAFJODs and every relevant DL I or BTL could identify. This year, I was more effective in advocating for a responsible role, and I'm able to run a couple of key technical projects.

My prior service is as an army Signal Operator. Deployment in-trade, former course director with experience instructing trades, leadership, recruit, first aid, and driver wheel courses. My responsibilities within CAF have included project management, requests for proposals, evaluation of bids, estimating, quartermaster tasks, and staffwork. Outside of CAF, drafting, machining, welding, electronics troubleshooting, documentation, and technical communications.

I believe I can sell my experience to potential employers which can benefit the CAF, including ex-AERE senior staff at Cascade, if I can just get permission to join the co-op program.
 
5) I have a competitive advantage over all of my peers in co-op, in that I am the only candidate that employers do not have to pay. The CAF pays me, which combined with my transferrable skills from my prior career and doing all of my work terms in one shot, giving companies a free employee that can be productive with minimal supervision.

Question. Is it a requirement of your co-op programme that participating companies "must" pay the students during the work terms? I ask as, forty years ago, when I contemplated something similar, the school I was looking at had that requirement (rare at the time). It wasn't a factor in my taking a different route to a commission, but it was included in the consideration a few years later when the directorate I was in at NDHQ tried to get a co-op student (civvy or mil, it didn't matter). The thinking being that if employers had to pay all students equally it leveled the field and precluded students from offering their services for free. ROTP/UTPs would be paid by the CAF and the additional amount from the civvy company would be deducted from their military pay (in essence, the company would pay the CAF for use of the member).
 
Already cleared it with the head of my school's engineering co-op office. As I've confirmed that I will be receiving full-time pay throughout a co-op work term (if co-op is approved by SEM), I meet the co-op office's pay requirement. They have no reservations about the level-ness of the playing field.

The boss there also knows that I'm so active in my self-recruiting that I'm contacting potential employers a year out, that my skillset is rather different from peers I'd be competing against, and that me working for free may not actually reduce the number of paid co-op positions (ie. even if I did go through company's advertisements through the co-op office, they might increase the headcount of positions between me being free and requiring less supervision than the average bear).
 
Seen. While the school may not have a problem, I am reminded of a comment from the 1980's when I was at the edges of the issue. The contemplated objection was not from the school but from DND; if a co-op student was going to be providing services to a private company while on the public payroll, then they expected to be reimbursed for those services. That was one of the reasons co-op programmes were not looked at favourablely.
 
I want to build a case and submit a request to my Subsidized Education Manager to complete a co-op engineering degree (as opposed to an engineering degree without co-op work terms), which would delay my graduation and achievement of OFP by one year.

I would appreciate feedback on presenting a clear, concise, and persuasive request.
Looks like you have a good case and from the SEM guide your MOSID is one of the few that can do co-ops (although they prefer no co-ops) so I think you are fine submitting with your rationale listed. The SEM crew is pretty flexible (most of the time) and it may probably more depend on if your training authority for AERE agrees with the need/plan.

SEM 2024 Student Guide

704 CO-OP PROGRAMS Co-op programs are restricted to engineering programs. Candidates selected to attend a civilian university and who elect to study in a co-op engineering program are restricted to the Aerospace Engineering (AERE), Communications and Electronics Engineering (CELE), and Electrical and Mechanical Engineering (EME) occupations. Students enrolled in a co-op program must inform their ULO and SEM. Accepting paid work terms is not authorized. Students are required to discuss their work terms with their ULO and SEM who in turn will explore the possibility of a co-op placement within the CAF that would meet the requirements of the academic program. Students who cannot opt out of a paid term are to provide evidence of this with supporting documents to SEM immediately.
 
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