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Making Canada Relevant Again- The Economic Super-Thread

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Thucydides said:
OJT? Perhaps, but it doesn't seem likely. Doing training could take place in the yard, and doing daily maintenance is probably a better use of time/resources. Walking the route or driving in a pickup truck to learn the route is also faster, easier, cheaper...

The wear and tear on the machine should also be considered when driving around w/o snow.

Well training in the yard is a good start but the driver still needs to handle his machine in traffic. Driving in a pickup truck will not help the driver learn what it's like to drive on the sidewalks. And driving with the blade down is something that should only be done once in training. Unfortunately it's a little easier to learn where the problem areas are by driving the route once with the blade down.

After all, when you have 20 cm of freshly fallen snow and you have to clear the sidewalks so people can actually get around without breaking their necks, you need to know what you're doing and be able to avoid problems.

I'll stop discussing the video, I only wanted to show there could be a reasonable explanation for what was filmed.  I would like to know what was going on that morning and why two vehicles were out doing the same thing on the two sidewalks.

I used to live in Montreal and I remember how grateful I was for the snow plow operators. There was more than one storm when I almost had to abandon my car.
 
SherH2A, it's of no use, my friend Thucydides is of a one-trick pony.
If they were non-unionized workers he would be lauding the extra training the private sector does over the public one......................
 
Bruce Monkhouse said:
SherH2A, it's of no use, my friend Thucydides is of a one-trick pony.
If they were non-unionized workers he would be lauding the extra training the private sector does over the public one......................

But I enjoy his posts. They are well written and articulate. I do not always agree with him but, sometimes, he causes me to stop, think, examine my own premises and examine my own beliefs. That is something we all need to do periodically
 
If they were non union ones doing this I could at least fire them....
 
Back to creating more wealth:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-sees-trade-deals-as-key-to-his-political-success/article2283361/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Politics&utm_content=2283361

Harper sees trade deals as key to his political success
JOHN IBBITSON | Columnist profile | E-mail
OTTAWA— From Monday's Globe and Mail
Published Sunday, Dec. 25, 2011 7:25PM EST

Others may judge the Harper government by what it achieves, or fails to achieve, on the environmental front, with first nations or in making government more accountable. But Stephen Harper judges himself on how well his government manages the economy. In that context, nothing is more important to the Conservatives than trade.

By this time next year, either the Prime Minister will have one major agreement in his pocket and several more in the works, or this administration, by its own accounting, will have failed one of its most crucial tests.

The good news for the Tories is that they may soon clear the first and biggest hurdle. Government sources predict that a signed Canada-European Union Trade Agreement will be in place by February or March.

Some of the terms of that agreement will be contentious. EU businesses will have greater access to Canadian government-procurement contracts, for example. And dairy quotas for European imports will probably be raised, in exchange for increased quotas for Canadian pork exports.

But the deal is likely to be worth the concessions. Despite its problems – and they are legion – the EU remains the world’s largest common market, with 500- million people and a collective GDP of $16-trillion.

Improving access to that market is vital to this country’s long-term prosperity, which is why provincial governments are reportedly onside. (Negotiators also insist that the deal will clear all 27 European parliaments without difficulty. We’ll see.)

The EU agreement is vital to the Harper government’s second-most important goal: getting the member nations of the Trans Pacific Partnership to accept Canada’s application to join.

The TPP is emerging as a potentially powerful new trade bloc, as the Obama administration seeks to fashion a Pacific economic consortium that could rival China in size and influence.

Canada wants to be part of the partnership but has been shut out because the Conservative government continues to protect dairy and poultry farmers from foreign competition.

The word is that the Conservatives will use the agriculture provisions of the EU treaty to show the Pacific nations that Canada is willing to be flexible on agricultural subsidies. Maybe it will work; maybe it won’t.

If it doesn’t, then Mr. Harper will have to make an enormously difficult choice: give up on joining the Trans Pacific Partnership, which would be a severe blow to this country’s Pacific aspirations, or scrap supply management, which will enrage the all-powerful dairy lobby.

At the same time, the Harper government is exploring with the Chinese whether there is enough common ground to launch talks on a free-trade agreement, or whether to pursue sectoral negotiations instead.

The Conservatives have already negotiated a Foreign Investment Protection Agreement, or FIPA, as part of their trade negotiations with India. Both countries are waiting until Mr. Harper visits there next year to formally announce it.

As well, International Trade Minister Ed Fast will decide in 2012 whether to restart the stalled trade negotiations with South Korea, or abandon them entirely. Pork producers are anxious to see a deal, since the U.S. and Korea now have one, but concerns over Korean protectionism in the auto sector are holding that agreement back.

Hopes for progress in trade talks with Mercosur, the South American trade bloc, are fading. Argentina, in particular, is more interested in throwing up new barriers to trade than in tearing down existing ones.

But if the Harper government can sign agreements with the EU, China and India, and worm its way into the Pacific Partnership talks, it will be able to claim a robust record in expanding and diversifying trade.

If it can’t, then the Conservatives’ talk of protecting jobs and expanding overseas business opportunities will have proven to be just that: talk.

By the end of next year, we should know which it is.
 
An interesting look at how social media is affecting business. The point about how social media tools like "Twitter" don't always provide accurate data (Twitter "activists" can flood a channel, while ordinary customers generally don't) seems rather self explanatory (the same thing can be said about letter writers or people who call into talk radio), what is making me curious is why anyone would take posts of >140 characters seriously, since there is no way to include supporting evidence, charts, graphics, data etc. Just baldly asserting a point w/o evidence isn't a very effective means of making a point:

http://www.economist.com/node/21542154

Too much buzz
Social media provides huge opportunities, but will bring huge problems

Dec 31st 2011 | from the print edition

THE only area of business that seems to be recession-proof is social media. Industrial firms are battening down the hatches. Banks are tossing thousands of workers overboard. But Facebook is looking to raise $10 billion for a small fraction of its shares when it goes public in 2012.

A recent conference in Madrid, put on by the Bankinter Foundation of Innovation, captured the enthusiasm. The assembled cyber-gurus argued that “social technologies” that allow people to broadcast their ideas (eg, Twitter), or form connections (eg, LinkedIn), are some of the most powerful ever devised. They can be supersized quickly, linked together easily and spread by customers. And they can be accessed from almost anywhere. Two billion people are already online. E-commerce sales are $8 trillion a year. So, the argument goes, this more “social” element to the internet is the next great revolution. Over-caffeinated cyber-champions talk of “empowerment” and “transparency”. But is all this as wonderful as it sounds? Or is it a new bubble in the making?

The great virtue of social technologies, say their boosters, is that they break down the barriers between companies and their customers. They allow firms to gather oodles of information: big companies now obsessively monitor social media to find out what their customers really think about them. Social media also allow companies to respond to complaints more quickly: firms as different as Chrysler and Best Buy employ “Twitter teams” to reply to whinging tweets.

More information ought to be useful, but only if companies can interpret it. And workers are already overloaded: 62% of them say that the quality of what they do is hampered because they cannot make sense of the data they already have, according to Capgemini, a consultancy. This will only get worse: the data deluge is expected to grow more than 40 times by 2020.

Responding quickly to bitter tweets sounds like a nifty way to soothe angry customers. But there is a risk that companies will concentrate on a handful of activists (who tweet a lot), while neglecting average customers (who don’t). They may also ignore non-customers (who are the biggest potential source of growth) and the elderly (who seldom tweet). Many firms think that they can improve customer service by using social media to respond to complaints quickly. Really? It is already virtually impossible to talk to a real person on the telephone. Will it be any easier online?

Undaunted, cyber-enthusiasts maintain that social technologies are shifting power from a few Goliaths to many Davids. Ordinary people can easily broadcast their opinions and extend their networks. Big firms have to adjust to this new reality or go under. (As the digerati put it: “All businesses will end up looking like the internet.”) But big firms can use social data to add to their already formidable influence over the consumer: Ford, PepsiCo and Southwest Airlines monitor postings on social-media sites to gauge the impact of their marketing campaigns and then adjust their pitch accordingly. And some of the most successful internet-savvy companies, such as Google and Microsoft, are as secretive about what they do as any old-line company.

The “Army of Davids” argument—to borrow a phrase from Glenn Reynolds, an American blogger—is often applied to politics. For example, Ilya Ponomarev, a member of the Russian Duma, argues that social media make it easier for protesters in Russia to organise. (Russians spend more time on the internet than western Europeans, not least because they have no faith in state television.) This is true, but the secret police in many countries are equally excited about technology. New tools allow them to eavesdrop retrospectively, and to trace networks of dissidents. During the Egyptian uprising the advantage was clearly on the side of the dissidents, since the Egyptian secret police were digital dullards. But this may not be the case in China, where the regime’s online snoops are highly sophisticated.

Cyber-enthusiasts gush about the way social media help entrepreneurs. They have a point: disruptive technologies reconfigure old businesses and create new ones. Facebook could let companies aim their ads more accurately. Firms are starting to use internal social-networking tools, such as Yammer and Chatter, to encourage collaboration, discover talent and cut down on pointless e-mails. Youngsters are happy to embrace it, but older managers may be less keen. The use of social media within companies could be quite disruptive to traditional management techniques, particularly in strongly hierarchical firms.

Dreaming up new companies is not terribly difficult: at the conference Andreas Weigend, the founder of Social Data Lab, came up with the idea of “another person’s hat”; a product that allows you to don the digital identity of, say, an Islamic fundamentalist and see what the world looks like through his eyes. This sounds neat, but some of the new social-media technologies have a clown-suit quality to them. They are amusing the first time, but rapidly become tedious.

A new medium: neither rare nor well-done

Most commentary on social media ignores an obvious truth—that the value of things is largely determined by their rarity. The more people tweet, the less attention people will pay to any individual tweet. The more people “friend” even passing acquaintances, the less meaning such connections have. As communication grows ever easier, the important thing is detecting whispers of useful information in a howling hurricane of noise. For speakers, the new world will be expensive. Companies will have to invest in ever more channels to capture the same number of ears. For listeners, it will be baffling. Everyone will need better filters—editors, analysts, middle managers and so on—to help them extract meaning from the blizzard of buzz.

And of course the companies which can manage these tools most effectively will prosper the best.


 
I always enjoy the Munk debate.

This one, "Be it resolved, North America faces a Japan-style era of high unemployment and slow growth", is available for free on CPAC:

http://www.cpac.ca/forms/index.asp?dsp=template&act=view3&pagetype=vod&hl=e&clipID=6268

Public Record

Munk Debate

On November 14th, 2011, the eighth semi-annual Munk Debate tabled the motion: "Be it resolved, North America faces a Japan-style era of high unemployment and slow growth."

Arguing for the resolution were Nobel Laureate and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, and David Rosenberg, chief economist and strategist at Gluskin Sheff + Associates Ltd.

Opposing them were former U.S. Treasury Secretary and Harvard University president Lawrence Summers, and Iam Bremmer, founder and president of Eurasia Group.
 
Some Americans are starting to take note of our government's "secret agenda":

http://news.investors.com/Article/596263/201112291827/tax-cuts-give-canada-economy-a-boost.htm

Tax Cuts, Less-Intrusive Gov't Help Canada Soar

Posted 12/29/2011 06:27 PM ET
Success: Away from the low growth and high regulation of an America under Washington's thumb, our northern neighbor is economically strong. As 2011 ends, Canada has announced yet another tax cut — and will soar even more.

The Obama administration and its economic czars have flailed about for years, baffled about how to get the U.S. economy growing.

In reality, the president need look no further than our neighbor, Canada, whose solid growth is the product of tax cuts, fiscal discipline, free trade, and energy development. That's made Canada a roaring puma nation, while its supposedly more powerful southern neighbor stands on the outside looking in.

On Thursday, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced that he will slash corporate taxes again on Jan. 1 in the final stage of his Economic Action Plan, dropping the federal business tax burden to just 15%.

Along with fresh tax cuts in provinces such as Alberta, total taxes for businesses in Canada will drop to 25%, one of the lowest in the G7, and below the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development average.

"Creating jobs and growth is our top priority," said Minister Jim Flaherty. "Through our government low-tax plan ... we are continuing to send the message that Canada is open for business and the best place to invest."

It's not just that Canada's conservative government favors makers over takers. Harper's also wildly popular for shrinking government. "The Harper government has pursued a strategic objective to disembed the federal state from the lives of citizens," wrote University of Calgary Professor Barry Cooper, in the Calgary Herald.

Harper also has made signing free trade treaties his priority. Canada now has 11 free trade pacts in force, and 14 under active negotiation — including pacts with the European Union and India, among others.

"We believe in free trade in Canada, we're a free-trading nation. That's the source of our strength, our quality of life, our economic strength," Flaherty said last month.

Lastly, Canada has pursued its competitive advantage — oil. And it did so not through top-down "industrial policy," but by getting government out of the way.

Harper has enacted market-friendly regulations to accomplish big things like the Keystone Pipeline — and urged President Obama to move forward on it or else Canada would sell its oil to China.

These policies have been well-known since the Reagan era. But in a country that's been institutionally socialist since the 1950s, Harper's moves represent a dramatic affirmation for free market economics.

For Canada, they've had big benefits.

Canada's incomes are rising, its unemployment is two percentage points below the U.S. rate, its currency is strengthening and it boasts Triple-A or equivalent sovereign ratings across the board from the five top international ratings agencies, lowering its cost of credit.

Is it too much to ask Washington to start paying attention to the Canadian success story?

These sound principles work every time they are tried, and they have led to a transformation in Canada.

Imagine what they could do in the U.S.
 
Just in case anyone needs a reminder of why this all worked, it's because of the imposition of higher taxes coupled with aggressive spending cuts that happened before PM Harper took office and inherited a massive surplus. I'm not going to accuse him of doing much deliberately to fritter away that surplus (except, of course, for the two cuts to the GST which were in my opinion extremely bad policy decisions), but I'm not really ready to lay the credit for the current state of affairs solely at his feet, either.

Thucydides said:
Some Americans are starting to take note of our government's "secret agenda":

http://news.investors.com/Article/596263/201112291827/tax-cuts-give-canada-economy-a-boost.htm
 
Fritter away a surplus?

You mean "return funds to the tax paying public"' right?

Or do you suppose the money was the Federal Government's in the first place?
 
Last time I looked there was no surplus - merely an ability to increase payments on accumulated debt.

I wouldn't declare a "surplus" until the debt is gone.


Imagine if Canada were debt free: that's $33B a year the government could use to cut taxes or increase services.
 
shhhh....you'll have all the Libs and Dippers salivating at that image.....
 
GAP said:
shhhh....you'll have all the Libs and Dippers salivating at that image.....

...and then I'll point out that, had we kept expenditures and revenues in line, it would have happened... no thanks to St Pierre...
 
Redeye said:
Just in case anyone needs a reminder of why this all worked, it's because of the imposition of higher taxes coupled with aggressive spending cuts that happened before PM Harper took office and inherited a massive surplus. I'm not going to accuse him of doing much deliberately to fritter away that surplus (except, of course, for the two cuts to the GST which were in my opinion extremely bad policy decisions), but I'm not really ready to lay the credit for the current state of affairs solely at his feet, either.


They were only "bad policy decisions" if you believe that frittering away someone else's money is a legitimate role for government. If, on the other hand, you believe that making it hard for politicians to fleece the population and "redistribute wealth" buy votes is good policy, then cutting the GST - making it harder for future governments to raise revenue except in a dire emergency - was excellent policy and well done PM Harper. It will be slower to grow our way out of the current deficit than to have taxed our way out if it but "Joe six pack" (about whom the left only professes to be concerned) will be better off for it. Hard nosed, fiscal conservatives are the working man's real friends - they are "do good" politicians; the silk stocking socialists of the Liberal and NDP persuasion (and there are still many in the Conservative ranks, too) are in the business of "feel good" politics.
 
SeaKingTacco said:
Fritter away a surplus?

You mean "return funds to the tax paying public"' right?

Or do you suppose the money was the Federal Government's in the first place?

Some balance of returning the surplus in the form of tax cuts and paying off the national debt would have been fine with me. When people want to bash ideas like Keynesianism, I can easily point out that Keynes made a point of stating that when surpluses were run they need to be used to pay off debts run during recessionary periods. To my knowledge, no government has ever done that. To dapaterson's point - the surplus was not used as it could have been. The end of the surplus, I was trying to say, was not so much the fault of any government decision as much as it was a function of a global economic catastrophe eroding the tax base. That said, the form in which the fax cuts we passed to consumers - two consumption tax cuts - was not optimal - there were better ways to accomplish the same.

To Mr Campbell's point - consumption tax cuts benefit the wealthiest generally. increases in the basic personal exemption, or lowering rates at the lowest brackets, would have put more money into the pockets of people who are more likely to spend it.
 
To Mr Campbell's point - consumption tax cuts benefit the wealthiest generally. increases in the basic personal exemption, or lowering rates at the lowest brackets, would have put more money into the pockets of people who are more likely to spend it.

Why is it that some groups insist on "government knows best" idealology? If you want to get out of your financial group, create something, work harder or smarter, but do something other than complain "that he's got more than me, I want some of his"
 
Redeye said:
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To Mr Campbell's point - consumption tax cuts benefit the wealthiest generally. increases in the basic personal exemption, or lowering rates at the lowest brackets, would have put more money into the pockets of people who are more likely to spend it.


Actually that is 100%, totally back asswards. Consumption taxes are, broadly, discretionary ... for those with a high enough income. Spend a lower percentage of your income and pay an equally lower percenbtage in taxes. But the "working man" must spend nearly 100% of his income on necessities and a few "nice to haves," and since almost everything is (should be) covered by the HST/GST the "working man" gets taxed on almost every penny he earns because he spends it all. The "rich" man saves and invests a substantial part of his income - he pays HST/GST on only a relatively small percentage of it.

The GST/HST is such a cash cow precisely because most people spend most of what the earn and pay taxes on damned near everything they earn/spend ... except the rich who pay GST/HST on only a small percentage of their income.
 
E.R. Campbell said:
Actually that is 100%, totally back asswards. Consumption taxes are, broadly, discretionary ... for those with a high enough income. Spend a lower percentage of your income and pay an equally lower percenbtage in taxes. But the "working man" must spend nearly 100% of his income on necessities and a few "nice to haves," and since almost everything is (should be) covered by the HST/GST the "working man" gets taxed on almost every penny he earns because he spends it all. The "rich" man saves and invests a substantial part of his income - he pays HST/GST on only a relatively small percentage of it.

Actually - yes - I didn't explain it right - I was on too little sleep sitting at Newark Airport without coffee - what I meant to say is that a GST cut doesn't benefit those people because most of their spending is on items which aren't GST taxable. I did the math on the maximum it could save me, and I'm not exactly low income. While I wasn't disappointed to pay less tax but I'd rather have seen that go to income tax cuts which would have put money to spend into people's pockets.
 
GAP said:
Why is it that some groups insist on "government knows best" idealology? If you want to get out of your financial group, create something, work harder or smarter, but do something other than complain "that he's got more than me, I want some of his"

Holy non sequitur, Batman!
 
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