Man spits on Fonda

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Vietnam Veteran Spits in Jane Fonda's Face

By Victoria Ward, PA, in New York


A Vietnam veteran has been arrested in the United States for spitting tobacco juice in Jane Fonda's face.

Michael Smith, 54, queued for 90 minutes at a Kansas book signing before launching his attack on the 67-year-old actress.


He spat a â Å“large amountâ ? of liquid in her face and then ran away, but was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct, police said.

Fonda was signing copies of her new memoir, My Life So Far, which describes her notorious 1972 visit to Hanoi where she was photographed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft tank.

She has since apologised for the incident, which earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane, and has described it as a â Å“two-minute lapse of sanityâ ?.

Smith told the Kansas City Star newspaper that Fonda was a â Å“traitorâ ? who had spat in the faces of war veterans for 37 years.

â Å“I consider it a debt of honour,â ? he said. â Å“There are a lot of veterans who would love to do what I did.â ?

Fonda later issued a statement saying: â Å“In spite of the incident, my experience in Kansas City was wonderful and I thank all the warm and supportive people, including so many veterans, who came to welcome me.â ?

Smith was released on bail and is due in court on May 27.

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[Jarnhamar]

He spat a â Å“large amountâ ? of liquid in her face and then ran away, but was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct, police said.

Guess he wasn't recon.

Jane fonda is quite the hammer head.

 

[Michael Dorosh]

Fonda apologized last month. Even if she didn't, or even if it wasn't sincere, assault is assault.  What a no class act, and a disgrace to all the other Vietnam veterans who have weathered the assorted indignities heaped upon them with dignity and grace. 

I hope they throw the book at him.

 

[TCBF]

"But now, despite the bombs, despite the crimes being created-being committed against them by Richard Nixon, these people own their own land, build their own schools-the children learning, literacy- illiteracy is being wiped out, there is no more prostitution as there was during the time when this was a French colony. In other words, the people have taken power into their own hands, and they are controlling their own lives.

And after 4,000 years of struggling against nature and foreign invaders-and the last 25 years, prior to the revolution, of struggling against French colonialism-I don't think that the people of Vietnam are about to compromise in any way, shape or form about the freedom and independence of their country, and I think Richard Nixon would do well to read Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry written by Ho Chi Minh."

- Jane Fonda in North Vietnam

 

[Infanteer]

Couldn't of happened to a better lady.

Nice work Michael Smith. 

 

[Marauder]

Agree with Infanteer.

 

[Britney Spears]

Well, her inflamatory statements at the time could probably have been a little more tactful, but kudos to her for sticking to her principles and actually going to Vietnam instead of just talking the empty talk like anti-war protesters now like to do. It took guts to do what she did and she's stil suffering the consequences today.

 

[nULL]

He spat a â Å“large amountâ ? of liquid in her face and then ran away,

â Å“I consider it a debt of honour.â ?

If he was so sure he was doing the right thing, then why didn't he stay to face the music for his actions? Irregardless of his service in Vietnam, he acted like a street thug.

 

[DogOfWar]

If he was so sure he was doing the right thing, then why didn't he stay to face the music for his actions? Irregardless of his service in Vietnam, he acted like a street thug.

Maybe she learned Kung Fu from Charlie, and he was doing a "tactical repositioning" in order to better do battle.

 

[X Royal]

I have to agree spitting on her was definetly wrong. IMO she should have been shot & p*ssed on or at least hung as a traitor. That kind of behavior can never be forgaven.  Imagine a Canadian actress during WW 2 hanging out with Hitler then coming back and fitting right in with any respect? NOT LIKELY

 

[Slim]

When I hear about Jane Fonda i get as mad as the next soldier...I can't say I agree with spitting on someone though.

She is a disgrace and probably cost lots of lives by her irresponsible actions. However when you do something like spitting on someone and then say that this was done in the name of all those who served you're assuming that they would have all spit on her too.

She should be punished...But under the law, not with spit.

 

[Rubes]

That man is my hero for the day.

 

[larry Strong]

Well, her inflammatory statements at the time could probably have been a little more tactful, but kudos to her for sticking to her principles and actually going to Vietnam instead of just talking the empty talk like anti-war protesters now like to do. It took guts to do what she did and she's still suffering the consequences today.

As she should be,  
While she was over there a series of photo's was taken of an elated Jane Fonda sitting an an operational AA gun.

She stated that the returning POW's were lying about being tortured while in North Vietnamese prisons,

She was part of an organised effortposing as Red Cross officials who visited known or suspected POW families, eliciting very personal information from bereaved families-then making sure said information was passed on to the North Viet's and used to break prisoner's morale (kind of tough being in POW status, and finding out the little woman has divorce you back home)

Probably her worst crime was the fingering of Col Nick Rowe as a Special forces member. Col Rowe had successfully posed for a number of years as a "Engineer" when he was "outed" by Fonda's people. from what I under stand Col Rowe intended to bring charges against Fonda as soon as he retired, but he was assassinated in the Philippines while still on active duty.  

She also helped set up a safe house outside Ft Bragg to help people desert from the Army.

This was all passed on to me by an ex US serviceman that I count as a good friend.

It's easy for us to say what she did was not all that bad, but if you go down south of the border where her actions caused a lot of unnecessary pain for tens of thousands of peopleand insulted those who served and those who died.

Having said this I do not agree with the actions of the man who spit on her, as previously stated a cowardly act, but I also do not know the perpetrators history....maybe he was a prisoner.

There is a bumper sticker available in the states that sums up the feeling of a lot of Americans:

"I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler"

 

[mainerjohnthomas]

If it is to be a moral stand, then stand.  If it is a bullshit stunt, then run like a chicken.
Jane Fonda was a traitor.  Opposition to a war is a moral stance.  Standing on the weapons of the enemies of your nation, the very guns that are taking the lives of your countrymen, shaking hands with the killers of your own kind, that is about as far from moral as you can get.  Opposing your nations involvement of the war is a moral choice, based on your ideals of justice, and the good governance of your own land.  Siding with the enemies of your own nation, offering aid and comfort to them, furthering their propaganda, and offering your blessing to the weapons that shed the blood of those who stand for your own country is base treason.  Had this man spat in her face, and proudly stood his ground, returning the scorn she showed the brave men who fought and died in that conflict, then he would have my support for taking a moral stand.  As he spat and ran, he showed moral convictions quite similar to Ms Fonda; cheap bullshit theatrics.  An airhead traitor accosted by a dimwit coward; a pox on them both.

 

[Britney Spears]

She was part of an organised effortposing as Red Cross officials who visited known or suspected POW families, eliciting very personal information from bereaved families-then making sure said information was passed on to the North Viet's and used to break prisoner's morale (kind of tough being in POW status, and finding out the little woman has divorce you back home)

Probably her worst crime was the fingering of Col Nick Rowe as a Special forces member. Col Rowe had successfully posed for a number of years as a "Engineer" when he was "outed" by Fonda's people. from what I under stand Col Rowe intended to bring charges against Fonda as soon as he retired, but he was assassinated in the Philippines while still on active duty. 

Cite?

 

[Michael Dorosh]

Cite?

Is this the one snopes.com debunks?  Hold on....

http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

 

[Britney Spears]

I've looked it up on snopes a long time ago. The article does not refute specifically the claims made by Larry, but obviously, since most of the other Fonda-hater's claims have been debunked, I would surmise that these claims are most likely also a myth.

Of course Mr. Strong is welcome to offer his sources for our scrutiny.

 

[DogOfWar]

I've looked it up on snopes a long time ago. The article does not refute specifically the claims made by Larry, but obviously, since most of the other Fonda-hater's claims have been debunked, I would surmise that these claims are most likely also a myth.

Of course Mr. Strong is welcome to offer his sources for our scrutiny.

I dont see "most" being debunked in that snopes article. i see one rumor debunked.

 

[Britney Spears]

I dont see "most" being debunked in that snopes article. i see one rumor debunked.

Everything that was not a matter of public record and that she herself has admitted to (The photo with the AAA gun, her own speeches and writings) was debunked. Since the "slip of paper" story was more or less thouroughly discredited, I imagine the similar stories presented here are also myths.

Of course, once Larry Strong comes back with the evidence it will all be clear.

The most serious accusations in the piece quoted above â ” that Fonda turned over slips of paper furtively given her by American POWS to the North Vietnamese and that several POWs were beaten to death as a result â ” are proveably untrue. Those named in the inflammatory e-mail categorically deny the events they supposedly were part of.

"It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, one of the servicemen mentioned in the 'slips of paper' incident. Carrigan was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967 and did spend time in a POW camp. He has no idea why the story was attributed to him, saying, "I never met Jane Fonda."

The tale about a defiant serviceman who spit at Jane Fonda and is severely beaten as a result is often attributed to Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll. He has repeatedly stated on the record that it did not originate with him.

The unknown author of the "Hanoi Jane" e-mail appears to have picked up Benge's story online and combined it with fabricated tales to create the forwarded text. Some versions now circulate with Benge's name listed; others quote his statement anonymously.

In fact, Fonda carried home letters from many American POWs to their families upon her return from North Vietnam, and rumors that a POW was beaten to death when he refused to meet with her were nothing more than rumors.

 

[larry Strong]

As I stated most of what I passed on to you was told to me by a man I have known for 20+ years, he is an ex-service man and a Vietnam war vet, and I have no reason to believe   he lied to me. I have seen numerous photo's of him and Col Rowe, both in a professional setting and in a "relaxed setting", so I guess you have to make your own opinions.

The bottom line is she is a traitor to her country, and probably has only aapologisedto help sales of her book. IMHO