Manufacturing history, or did it really happen? The CBC Strikes Again ..

[TCBF]

"I will call it Apeland and it will be a beacon of light guiding the world."

If you let me run it , it will be.

If you run it, it will be a statist camp where criminals run free and honest working men are helpless.

Commie.

;D

Tom 

 

[Glorified Ape]

"I will call it Apeland and it will be a beacon of light guiding the world."

If you let me run it , it will be.

If you run it, it will be a statist camp where criminals run free and honest working men are helpless.

Commie.

;D

Tom  

YOU WILL BE THE FIRST TO TASTE THE WRATH OF MY APISH FOREIGN POLICY. I will dispatch APE agents (Agency for the Promotion of Enlightenment) after you and they will re-educate you in the ways of Apian enlightenment. :rage:

 

[Kirkhill]

ways of Apian enlightenment

Where's Freud when you need him?  Coming out of the Hive are we?  Going to bee a bzzzy boy are we?  Beware the Borg.  We shall all be assimilated.

Apian-of or pertaining to bees.  Much more appropriate as a defining image for your philosophy doncha think?

Cheers

 

[Kat Stevens]

You could even call them Talibapes, now THAT would be cool....

 

[TCBF]

"APE agents (Agency for the Promotion of Enlightenment)"

- I see .....  opportunity.

This agency hire ex-military?  Can I roll my pension over? 

Tom

 

[Glorified Ape]

Where's Freud when you need him?  Coming out of the Hive are we?  Going to bee a bzzzy boy are we?  Beware the Borg.  We shall all be assimilated.

Apian-of or pertaining to bees.  Much more appropriate as a defining image for your philosophy doncha think?

Cheers

You learn something new every day. I thought I'd created a new word... dammit. I'd follow the whole bee-theme but I'm just a much larger fan of primates. Hey, they're social and they generally follow hierarchical organization so it's still a good theme.

"APE agents (Agency for the Promotion of Enlightenment)"

- I see .....  opportunity.

This agency hire ex-military?  Can I roll my pension over? 

Tom

Yes, the APE hires ex-military but, unfortunately, pensionable service to a foreign government is non-transferable to Apelandic service. There is a pension service for Apelandic personnel.

You could even call them Talibapes, now THAT would be cool....

Hahaha - "Talibapes" - that's gold. I'm stealing that. Thanks!  ;D

 

[George Wallace]

The Canadian Military would be almost cut in half in that eventuality.  It has one of its three Bdes in Quebec, one of its two major Fighter Bases in Quebec, as well as a fairly large chunk of its War Reserves, Workshops and Materials.  The Recruiting infrastructure and School is in Quebec also.  It would cause there to be quite a shake up in DND, with many guessing as to what direction CF Members may swing their allegiance.

 

[Infanteer]

Irregardless of my general opinion, I do think Martin has cojones for telling the Bloc what he thinks of them and their politics in the second debate:

"Let me say also that I am a Quebecer. And you are not going to take my country away from me, with some trick, with some ambiguous question," Martin said.

"...This is my country and my children were born and raised in Quebec, and you're not going to go to them and say that you're going to find some backdoor way of taking my country, or dividing Quebec family against Quebec family."

 

[Spr.Earl]

The Canadian Military would be almost cut in half in that eventuality.   It has one of its three Bdes in Quebec, one of its two major Fighter Bases in Quebec, as well as a fairly large chunk of its War Reserves, Workshops and Materials.   The Recruiting infrastructure and School is in Quebec also.   It would cause there to be quite a shake up in DND, with many guessing as to what direction CF Members may swing their allegiance.

Well if it happens all DND will do is transfer every thing back to Upper Canada then if not we use Military Force.
I'm fed up of just one so called Federal Party but which is just a Provincial Party wishing to split us up as Nation and they get Million's of our Tax  $' s for what to just bone us?

 

[geo]

Gents,

For what is't worth, I find the whole thing of your BQ/PQ Quebec bashing somewhat tiring.

Have provided, to date, 30+ years of good and loyal service to Canada and the CF and have yet to have someone of importance come up to me and suggest that he is aching to join a Quebec Army of any kind.

Give it a break

Please

Thank you!

Chimo!

 

[GO!!!]

Gents,

For what is't worth, I find the whole thing of your BQ/PQ Quebec bashing somewhat tiring.

Have provided, to date, 30+ years of good and loyal service to Canada and the CF and have yet to have someone of importance come up to me and suggest that he is aching to join a Quebec Army of any kind.

Give it a break

Please

Thank you!

Chimo!

So we should just ignore that millions of dollars of taxpayer's money goes to traitors, and not discuss the possibility (however remote) of seperation and the fate of billions of dollars of kit and infrastructure if Quebec did seperate, just because you find it tiresome?

I'm sure if we just ignore this problem, it will go away......

 

[TCBF]

But, what if thet are not traitors?  What if the best future for both Canada (-) and Quebec was once that allowed them to grow stronger separately unencumbered by each others values and culture?

Indded, what if what they want is not only better for them, but also much better for us, allowing us to strengthen our culture and stop it's decline?

What if?

Is it not better that we thrive separately as good friends rather than compromise ourselves down the toilet bowl of irrelevancy?

Speaking theoretically, of course.

Tom

 

[Jed]

As TCBF says: But, what if they are not traitors?   What if the best future for both Canada (-) and Quebec was once that allowed them to grow stronger separately unencumbered by each others values and culture?

Indeed, what if what they want is not only better for them, but also much better for us, allowing us to strengthen our culture and stop it's decline?

What if?

Is it not better that we thrive separately as good friends rather than compromise ourselves down the toilet bowl of irrelevancy?

I just do not think a split can occur with out a lot of grief and heartache. How many divorces do you see end amicably without distressed parties ? If Quebec were to go their own way, many, many remaining Anglo families in the province and in parts of Ontario and New Brunswick would fight hard not to allow a peaceful breakup of Canada.

Once the ball started to roll down hill, the rest of the provinces would pile on to support the Canadian Status Quo.

Jed

 

[TCBF]

What about the czech and slovak republics?

And just how hard do you thing the Sri Lankans, Jamaicans and Somalis in Ontario will fight for Westmount?

"Not necessarily conscription, but conscription if necessary?"

Riiiiiiiiiiggghht....

Tom

 

[Jed]

Yep some divorces do end amicably too, so I give you the occassional benign split up like Checkoslovakia, Tom. And I also feel that many of the newer Canadains in TO or Montreal will not be so eager to jump into a frey to support a united Canada; but, I do think that there are more than enough Canadians with deeper roots that will.

I don't think we will ever know for sure, and I this is one point of view that I do not want to be proven correct about.

In 1995 ( ?) during the last NO / YES referendum, there seemed to be some agitated folks along the Ottawa river tht had a stronger opinion than me on this issue.

Jed

 

[geo]

FWIW.............

Aren't we off topic here?

just my 2 ¢ worth

 

[a_majoor]

"Let me say also that I am a Quebecer. And you are not going to take my country away from me, with some trick, with some ambiguous question," Martin said.

"...This is my country and my children were born and raised in Quebec, and you're not going to go to them and say that you're going to find some backdoor way of taking my country, or dividing Quebec family against Quebec family."

Although my French is pretty much non existant, I did get some help with the French language debate and Martin said nothing even remotely like that. So the message to English voters is "I'm a tough guy" but absolute silence on the French side? Odd there has been no mention of this by our favorite news agency.

 

[3rd Horseman]

Bad example the Czechs separated from the poor province of the Slovaks, the Slovaks could do nothing since they were poor and lacking the Army to stop it. It would be like Canada separating from Quebec.


EDIT typo

 

[Cloud Cover]

And just how hard do you thing the Sri Lankans, Jamaicans and Somalis in Ontario will fight for Westmount?

Interesting observation, and a damned good one to remind them with. Considering the US probably won't recognize their citizenship papers when Ontario fractures into about 5 pieces and the rural and resource rich regions assimilate into the states of Michigan and New York (respectively), I would think they will fight like hell to keep Westmount under the roof. Otherwise, they may as well go back to their home countries because life will be about as miserable, and a lot colder.

 

[a_majoor]

Interesting point Whiskey, how will the United States receive the citizens of the former Dominion of Canada, and what obligations will they undertake if/when they assimilate the pieces. (Don't count on generous CPP and UI payments anymore, that's for sure.) Would/could they simply write off Canada's accumulated national debt? Will they convert our currency at the going market rate ( expect a currency collapse on our side if there is a separation).

Even without a fight, separation will create a moster financial collapse.