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McCallum suggests shift in Iraq war policy

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McCallum suggests shift in Iraq war policy

By ALLISON DUNFIELD
With reports from Daniel LeBlanc and Canadian Press
Globe and Mail Update
09 Jan 03, POSTED AT 7:22 PM EST

Canada may decide at a later date to take part in a military attack on Iraq even if the United Nations Security Council does not authorize the use of force, Defence Minister John McCallum said Thursday in Washington.

"What Canada is saying [is] that if the UN Security Council authorizes the use of force, Canada will certainly be a member of the coalition. If the Security Council does not authorize the use of force, the government of Canada will make its decision in due course."

He added: "Some may say, ‘We‘re doing it only with a UN mandate.‘ We‘re saying we much prefer that, but we may do it otherwise."

Asked whether that means Canada will remain on the sidelines if the United States attacks Iraq on its own, Mr. McCallum replied: "That‘s not decided yet."

The Defence Minister made the remarks after a meeting with U.S. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Mr. McCallum emphasized that the Canadian government remains hopeful that Iraq will comply fully with weapons inspectors, adding that Canada believes that war is not inevitable. "...Everyone wants to avoid war," he said


Mr. McCallum said a small delegation of military planners are currently in Tampa, Fla. discussing the matters with UN authorities.

"That does not necessarily mean we will be there, but it‘s necessary to discuss these matters in advance so we can take military action if the government decides that is necessary."

He would not say whether Canada‘s crack military team, the Joint Task Force 2, would be involved.

No action will be taken until Canada hears the next UN weapons inspectors report to the security council, slated for Jan. 27.

Canada‘s Foreign Affairs Minister is also hopeful that a diplomatic solution will arise out of the UN resolution.

"We are now seeing the buildup of credible forces to indicate that in the event a UN resolution authorizes force — that it‘s still there. At the same time we have to make sure everybody understands that diplomacy and a peaceful end to this is the solution that‘s preferred by everyone," Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham told CBC Newsworld on Wednesday.

On Thursday, Hans Blix, head of the UN security mission scouring Iraq for weapons of mass destruction, said the team had found no "smoking guns."

A decision to send troops to the Persian Gulf area would have to be made by Prime Minister Jean Chrétien, who has said that he would seek UN approval for any military action.

It would be possible to send a battle group of 1,000 Canadian troops but it may be difficult to sustain the group for a lengthy period because the Canadian military is cash-strapped.

The Defence Minister said he will wait to see if the upcoming federal budget provides more money for the Canadian Forces.

"I‘m relatively optimistic but I don‘t know what will happen in terms of the budget."

Meanwhile, troops are being gathered in France and Britain. The United States will soon have 100,000 military personnel in the Persian Gulf.

On Thursday, Mr. McCallum and Mr. Rumsfeld also discussed the issue of ballistic missile defence.

On Jan. 20, a group of Canadian officials will head to Washington on a fact-finding mission to explore ballistic missile defence, Mr. McCallum said.

Mr. McCallum said the advantage of Canadian participation in ballistic missile defence "gives Canada more influence over how the system works and we can make sure our own interests are taken account of."
 
The Americans are going to have 100,000 personnel there and our Government might send 1,000.

heh
 
As much as I would like to see our boys go do what we are trained to do, I don‘t exactly support this Iraq ordeal.
 
*Coughs*

US Population: ~300 million
Canada: ~30 million

...any more questions? lol :D
 
Well if your looking at a ratio of soldiers to population:

USA: 1milion troops / 300 million people = 0.0033
Canada: 50 thousand CF personnel / 30 million people = 0.0016

And thats being generous to us. How many deployable troops do we have? 20,000 at most I would think. Not sure on the number of the US forces, but i‘m sure its in the millions.
 
If we send anything it will be a show of support.
Like "Even the canadians contributed troops to the war effort" (Mind you they needed a lift over there and some shuttling around.)

If i had a chance to go to iraq i would drop my palladium tour and sign on to the UN or whoever in a second. No doubt in my mind.In saying that though i would rather be going because im supporting my country and the country decided it‘s the right thing to do instead of going over to help the us look better. (My opinion)
In our current state i think it‘s a waste of time and money to send canadians because there simply isn‘t a stragitic requirement for it. I honestly think we would be fed little things to do. I would also be more scared of whos above my head then whos infront of me;
One wants to kill and the other wants food.
 
I‘m well aware of the difference in population, but sending a thousand when the Americans are sending 100,000 and the British sending 10‘s of thousands, are 1,000 is so small, the only point of doing it would be for the USA to say they are not the only ones who want to invade Iraq.
 
Yeah we have about 20 000 troops. The new army model believe it or not is to have 60 000 troops (about 15 000 regs if I read correctly), and 20 000 support staff and personnel in the form of civilians for a grand total of 80 000 for the CF.

They say the new army will be able to fully deploy and sustain itself. Personnaly I imagine they have great plans, but once again its always the budget thing.

About the other posts, we could send in 15 000 men if we wanted to, they are equiped and ready and willing, the problem? Sustaining them on the field for the duration of the operation. Its takes **** of a lot of money to sustain a 15 000 strong ground force for like 6 months with rations and extended pays and etc.

1000 strong may not be anywhere close on the US scale or even UK scale deployment but you know, at least we would send some. Some countries might just sit back and watch all of this go on while we fight for freedom and lives....so I think that no matter how small it may seem...lets do it.
 
They said on the news we might send troops to replace US units in Afghanistan so they can join the fight in Iraq... talk about being sidetracked !!! :cdn:
 
wasn‘t it just a couple weeks ago that the Whitehouse said they could fight in Iraq and Afghanistan at the same time?
 
So their fighting in afganastan and maybe iraq and theres problems with n.korea?
Guess someone didn‘t read the section on fighting a 3 front war. :warstory:
 
The whitehouse said they could fight a war with Iraq and a war with N. Korea.

A bit of a stretech I would think,

And the restructuring of the CF sounds good...but is it going to happen any time soon? I doubt it. I guess its something to look foward to...if it ever happens.
 
Well don‘t you think that if we did send a whole brigade or even 1000 troops there would be a drastic increase in the budget?? We probably wasted half the budget in afganistan so there going to need more $$$$ from somewhere else!


Andrew :bullet: :cdn: :bullet:
 
"there would be a drastic increase in the budget"

There already is a big need to increase the budget. We will probably be told to make due with what we have.
 
For those who didnt read the documentation on the army restructure here is the link below.

And yes it does look good and nice, and its said that its a plan for the next 10 years. So those joining today will prolly see this new event horizon in their service time.

Ultimatly we have seen the start of this already. Things like removing mortar teams from infantry to artillery role are the first steps. The army wishes to concentrate its resources and optimize the role of the individual job like infantry.

Read on and enjoy, its looks cool!

Army startegy document

Oh and heres another on strategy 2020.

Startegy 2020
 
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