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McChrystal Has Some 'Splainin' to Do....

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...after speaking (if the quotes are correct) quite candidly with Rolling Stone magazine - this from AFP:
THE US commander in Afghanistan mocks the vice president in a new magazine interview, while his aides are dismissive of President Barack Obama.

Tensions between General Stanley McChrystal and the White House are on full display in an unflattering profile in Rolling Stone of the commander of US and NATO forces in the Afghan war.

General McChrystal jokes sarcastically about preparing to answer a question referring to Vice President Joe Biden, known as a sceptic of the commander's war strategy.

“Are you asking about Vice President Biden?” General McChrystal says with a laugh. “Who's that?” the article quotes him as saying.

“Biden?” suggests a top adviser. “Did you say: Bite Me?”

General McChrystal tells the magazine that he felt “betrayed” by the US ambassador to Kabul, Karl Eikenberry, in a White House debate over war strategy last year.

Referring to a leaked internal memo from Mr Eikenberry that questioned General McChrystal's request for more troops, the commander suggested the ambassador had tried to protect himself for history's sake.

“I like Karl, I've known him for years, but they'd never said anything like that to us before,” General McChrystal tells the magazine.

“Here's one that covers his flank for the history books. Now if we fail, they can say 'I told you so'.” ....

Some MSM confusion, given some outlets saying some of his aides said sokme of the nasty things:
.... McChrystal apologized on Monday for the comments by his aides and said he had "enormous respect and admiration for President Obama and his national security team."

The article, which quotes several McChrystal aides anonymously, portrayed his team as disapproving of the Obama administration, with the exception of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who backed McChrystal's request for additional troops in Afghanistan ....

I'm guessing the comments were pretty close to what was said, given this from BBC:
The top US commander in Afghanistan has apologised for his role in a magazine article that mocks senior Obama administration officials and diplomats.

Gen Stanley McChrystal said the article in Rolling Stone showed "poor judgement" and a lack of integrity.

In the article Gen McChrystal said he felt betrayed by US ambassador to Kabul, Karl Eikenberry.

The general's aides mock Vice-President Joe Biden and say Gen McChrystal was "disappointed" in President Obama ...
Can't find the apology statement yet, but the BBC piece has biggish chunks of it.

The latest:  McChrystal called to White House to explain (no word for how long at this point):
The top US commander in Afghanistan has been summoned to Washington, US media report, in the wake of a magazine article that mocked senior Obama administration officials and diplomats ....
 
Stan is likely going to be fired and schmooze into a job at Fox as thier senior military analyst...as for Afganistan...al bets are off now.
 
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Yep, you got some 'splainin' to do!
 
And Michael Yon will be rubbing his hands with glee. I bet he tries some sort of "told you so" angle...seems to be that he likes the spotlight.

 
- edited to clean up quotes, add link to article -

PPCLI Guy said:
VOA and others say both McC and aides stepped in it:
In an article published in the latest issue of the popular U.S.-based Rolling Stone magazine, aides to General Stanley McChrystal say he dismissed his first Oval Office meeting with Mr. Obama as nothing more than a "10 minute photo op."

The aides also heaped scorn on U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, who favored a far more limited approach in Afghanistan than the one McChrystal advocated ....
Still looking for his statement of apology, though.

Update:  Here's the article in question:
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM130_r1109mcchrystal.html
 
Afstan: McChrystal’s MacArthur moment (with link to Rolling Stone article)
http://unambig.com/afstan-mcchrystals-macarthur-moment/

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It’s a pity that such sophomoric stuff on the part of a talented military man often seen as the last chance commander in Afstan, and on the part of his entourage, can only encourage the growing “anti-war” element in the Democratic Party and make it more likely that the US will really start seriously drawing down its forces in the summer of 2011...

Moreover, if General McChrystal is fired, I fear it will add greatly to the political difficulties of continuing a Canadian military presence in Afstan after 2011.

Mark
Ottawa
 
Just heard on the radio that Gen McChrystal has been recalled to Washington to "splain" his remarks.
 
Commentator and former U.S. Army Ranger Andrew Exum assesses the risks of sacking or keeping GEN McChrystal:
.... Dismissing Gen. McChrystal

1. If you think the current strategy in Afghanistan is the right one -- and that is a big if -- this is not the ideal time to change commanders. (By contrast, if you feel the strategy in Afghanistan needs a radical change, this would be the ideal time to change commanders.) Shaking up the command in Kabul for the third consecutive summer would throw operations into temporary disarray. A new commander -- Jim Mattis, anyone? -- might not feel comfortable with all of his subordinates or staff and seek to change them, which would be his right as the commander but not so great in terms of continuity. Most crucially, the relationship between the president of Afghanistan and the new commander would have to be re-built. If you think the strategy in Afghanistan is the correct one, then, you are risking mission failure by replacing the commander and his staff at this stage in the conflict. You are in effect arguing that healthy civilian-military relations are more important than winning in Afghanistan.

2. In dismissing Gen. McChrystal, you may be dismissing the wrong American. The person who emailed Noah emailed me as well:

    “It would be a travesty if we fired McChrystal and kept Eikenberry.” Not only is McChrystal the “only one with any sort of relationship with [Afghan president Hamid] Karzai,” says this civilian NATO advisor. But Eikenberry “has no plan, didn’t get COIN [counterinsurgency] when he was the commander and still doesn’t.” Plus, the advisor adds: “The Embassy hates Eik. That’s not necessarily an indictment (I’m no fan of the Embassy). But it contributes to the dysfunction and it means that half the Embassy is focused on keeping Eik in line.”

I would further add that Amb. Eikenberry has been, in my opinion, as intemperate in his comments and actions as Gen. McChrystal. Ahem.

Retaining Gen. McChrystal

1. Here is Article 88 of the UCMJ:

    Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

If you do not dismiss Gen. McChrystal, what message does that send to junior officers? The president aside, both Gen. Petraeus and Adm. Mullen have an obligation to hold their four-star field commanders up to the same standard to which they hold lieutenants. Failure to enforce the standard establishes a new standard. And no officer is irreplacable.

2. But the same person who made the point about McChrystal and Eikenberry also noted that in every single review of best practices in counterinsurgency, unity of effort is at the top of the list. "Every. Single. Review." It's obvious we are not singing from the same hymnal in Afghanistan. Can we ever as long as McChrystal and Eikenberry serve alongside one another? I am not sure, which is why I suspected that Eikenberry would leave his post. But in the end, Eikenberry might be the one who stays, and McChrystal might be the one who leaves. I still think it would be best for one of them to go.

In conclusion, I believe there are grounds for dismissal or other discipline under Article 88 of the UCMJ. But I also believe the president has every right to say that while Gen. McChrystal's statements to Rolling Stone were shockingly inapparopriate, there is a greater good here, and that greater good is stablizing Afghanistan ....
 
I think the situation in Afghanistan has gotten worse since McKiernan's relief. I didnt like McChrystal's approach as I think the overly restrictive ROE's have gotten people killed. How much Obama/Eikenberry had to play in that decision may be covered in some future book. If you arent going to fight to win then everyone is wasting their time. Obama is determined to begin a pullout next year come hell or high water. Who is going to get the blame for Afghanistan ? Obama or the general officer commanding ?
 
tomahawk6 said:
Who is going to get the blame for Afghanistan ? Obama or the general officer commanding ?
Neither.  They'll blame this guy:

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Afghan politicians rally around Gen. McChrystal
Jun 22 By ROBERT H. REID Associated Press Writer
Article Link

Afghan President Hamid Karzai gave a strong endorsement Tuesday to embattled Gen. Stanley McChrystal, describing him as the "best commander" of the war and expressing hope that he keeps his job despite a magazine profile replete with derogatory comments about President Barack Obama and members of the U.S. national strategy team.

While Obama's relationship with Karzai has sometimes been rocky, McChrystal has cultivated the Afghan leader, encouraging him to visit remote areas of the country and assume responsibility for military operations against the Taliban.

Karzai's chief spokesman said the Afghan leader believes McChrystal is a person of "great integrity" and had displayed a very good understanding of the Afghan people and the Afghan culture.

"The president believes that Gen. McChrystal is the best commander that NATO and coalition forces have had in Afghanistan over the past nine years," spokesman Waheed Omar said. Omar said McChrystal has worked closely with Karzai since he took command last year and that "lots of things have improved."

Asked what would happen if McChrystal were replaced, Omar said: "Of course, we hope that that does not happen."

McChrystal also received a vote of confidence from the secretary-general of NATO, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who appeared concerned over the impact of a possible change of command at a time of rising casualties and faltering political support within allied capitals.

"The Rolling Stone article is rather unfortunate, but it is just an article," the alliance said in a statement issued in Brussels, Belgium. "We are in the middle of a very real conflict, and the secretary general has full confidence in Gen. McChrystal as the NATO commander, and in his strategy."

The U.S. Embassy followed with its own statement, downplaying any ongoing rift between McChrystal and Ambassador Karl Eikenberry, who was criticized in the profile.
More on link
 
U.S. general under heavy fire for remarks about Obama:



WASHINGTON — Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, on Tuesday apologized over an explosive and potentially career-ending magazine profile in which he and several of his senior aides make disparaging remarks about President Barack Obama and high-ranking administration officials in Washington.


McChrystal has been summoned back to Washington for a face-to-face meeting with Obama to explain remarks made in a Rolling Stone article that portrays the four-star general as disappointed in the president's leadership and contemptuous of Vice-President Joe Biden.


"I extend my sincerest apology for this profile. It was a mistake reflecting poor judgment and should never have happened," McChrystal said in his statement. "Throughout my career, I have lived by the principles of personal honour and professional integrity. What is reflected in this article falls far short of that standard. I have enormous respect and admiration for President Obama and his national security team, and for the civilian leaders and troops fighting this war and I remain committed to ensuring its successful outcome."


In a Rolling Stone article to be published Friday under the headline The Runaway General, a senior aide to McChrystal is quoted saying the general was "pretty disappointed" with Obama after their initial face-to-face meeting on Afghanistan in 2009.


"Obama clearly didn't know anything about him, who he was," the McChrystal aide is quoted as saying.


"Here's the guy who's going to run his f—ing war, but he didn't seem very engaged. The Boss was pretty disappointed."

(article continues, and links to other articles on subject)

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/general+under+fire+Obama+remarks/3185460/story.html#ixzz0rc9fX9al

            (Reproduced under the Fair Dealings provisions of the Copyright Act)
 
BTW, here's the new link where the Rolling Stone profile can be found:
http://bit.ly/rs-mcchrystal

 
Stan submitted his resignation a few minutes ago.
Maybe Gen Vance can move in...just a thought.
 
Sounds like a 21st Century version of President Truman vs General MacArthur:

"I fired MacArthur because he wouldn’t respect the authority of the president. I didn’t fire him because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was."
— Harry S. Truman

The President always gets the last word.......... :salute:
 
Say what you want in private, but publicly US Commanders must be seen to be lockstep with the Prez.
It was insubordination, cut and dried.
 
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