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I saw this today and I thought it was very cool:

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HMCS CAPE SCOTT was sailing home from the medical expedition to Easter Island and the Galapagos on 15 February 1965, the day Canada adopted it new flag. The ship held a ceremony to haul down the white ensign and hoist the new flag. There were two new flags hand stitched onboard based on verbal descriptions received by radio (the ship had been gone since 16 November 1964).

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Ah the good old days when HQ couldn't get a hold of you except by HF and Carrie pigeon. No reports back to fleet by 0600 every day in foreign port to confirm that everyone was back aboard "safe" and there were no incidents ashore.
 
Halifax Tar said:
I saw this today and I thought it was very cool:

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Caption:

HMCS CAPE SCOTT was sailing home from the medical expedition to Easter Island and the Galapagos on 15 February 1965, the day Canada adopted it new flag. The ship held a ceremony to haul down the white ensign and hoist the new flag. There were two new flags hand stitched onboard based on verbal descriptions received by radio (the ship had been gone since 16 November 1964).

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That’s a really cool bit of lived history. Thanks for that!
 
Halifax Tar said:
I saw this today and I thought it was very cool:

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Caption:

HMCS CAPE SCOTT was sailing home from the medical expedition to Easter Island and the Galapagos on 15 February 1965, the day Canada adopted it new flag. The ship held a ceremony to haul down the white ensign and hoist the new flag. There were two new flags hand stitched onboard based on verbal descriptions received by radio (the ship had been gone since 16 November 1964).

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The story is cool.

The photo is pure AI slop.
 
The photo is AI slop.

Look closely at the Kisby Ring. In particular the jiberish in place of the ship’s name.

The uniforms are non-sensical.

The dude with the stick is doing…what? Conducting a non-existant band?

The flight deck roundel and netting make no sense.

It is AI slop.
 
SeaKingTacco said:
The photo is AI slop.

Look closely at the Kisby Ring. In particular the jiberish in place of the ship’s name.

The uniforms are non-sensical.

The dude with the stick is doing…what? Conducting a non-existant band?

The flight deck roundel and netting make no sense.

It is AI slop.
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No one is debating you.
 
SeaKingTacco said:
The photo is AI slop.

Look closely at the Kisby Ring. In particular the jiberish in place of the ship’s name.

The uniforms are non-sensical.

The dude with the stick is doing…what? Conducting a non-existant band?

The flight deck roundel and netting make no sense.

It is AI slop.
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Copies of the picture can be found going back to 2021, before AI slip was a thing.
 
I only noticed the one officer saluting with his other hand either on his hip or in his pocket. WTF?
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Look more carefully. He's holding up his scabbard, sword not drawn.
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I’ll take your word for it. Even zoomed in and with my glasses, I couldn’t see a sword, and since the formation didn’t have arms I didn’t even clue in that he might be holding a sword. Thanks!
 
Halifax Tar said:
No one is debating you.
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I am.

At first glance it looks wrong but when I downloaded the image and zoomed in, it is grainy but clearly says H.M.C.S CAPE SCOTT on the Kisby ring, and the uniforms check out for POs, and sailors.

MP Museum examples.

I had an uncle who had been a bandsman back in the 60s (long story), and he mentioned that they sailed somewhat regularly with ships going away to do engagements. So a few bandsmen being embarked during a humanitarian mission to the South Pacific isn't really much of a stretch.
 
RangerRay said:
I’ll take your word for it. Even zoomed in and with my glasses, I couldn’t see a sword, and since the formation didn’t have arms I didn’t even clue in that he might be holding a sword. Thanks!
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You can't see the sword, it's in front of him. But in the RCN, we wear the belt under our tunics and behind his left leg, you can see the lanyard looping back to the front. That can only be a sword belt lanyard. And Furniture is right, the RCN did sail with small bands on foreign deployments. Playing of the National Anthem at colours, or music when coming alongside on official visits, together with buglers for the various bugler's calls was common in those days.

And the sword is not drawn, or else he would be saluting with it instead of his arm salute.
 
Furniture said:
I am.

At first glance it looks wrong but when I downloaded the image and zoomed in, it is grainy but clearly says H.M.C.S CAPE SCOTT on the Kisby ring, and the uniforms check out for POs, and sailors.

MP Museum examples.

I had an uncle who had been a bandsman back in the 60s (long story), and he mentioned that they sailed somewhat regularly with ships going away to do engagements. So a few bandsmen being embarked during a humanitarian mission to the South Pacific isn't really much of a stretch.
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How do you figure? In the image HT posted, when you zoom in on the Kisby Ring, it says HMCS on the top and just jibberish symbols on the bottom.
 
SeaKingTacco said:
How do you figure? In the image HT posted, when you zoom in on the Kisby Ring, it says HMCS on the top and just jibberish symbols on the bottom.
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I went to the source site, and downloaded it. It's not super clear, but it is there though grainy.

I compared the graininess in the writing to the clouds, and they both seemed to match for removing the sharpness. I then looking into RCN uniforms of the period, and found examples of that style of uniform. I then considered my uncles stories, about sailing while he was part of the Stadacona Band in the 60s. (He was a commissionaire that worked the Whytewold gate at 17 Wing, and smoked a pipe. His first name was Gene, you likely met him many times.)

Based on all of these things lining up, and the tendency for AI slop images to be well... sloppy with details; I believe the image is real and just old/grainy. I am willing to accept that I could be wrong though...
 
Furniture said:
I went to the source site, and downloaded it. It's not super clear, but it is there though grainy.

I compared the graininess in the writing to the clouds, and they both seemed to match for removing the sharpness. I then looking into RCN uniforms of the period, and found examples of that style of uniform. I then considered my uncles stories, about sailing while he was part of the Stadacona Band in the 60s. (He was a commissionaire that worked the Whytewold gate at 17 Wing, and smoked a pipe. His first name was Gene, you likely met him many times.)

Based on all of these things lining up, and the tendency for AI slop images to be well... sloppy with details; I believe the image is real and just old/grainy. I am willing to accept that I could be wrong though...
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So it has been tweaked with software that has smoothed some of the details?
 
SeaKingTacco said:
So it has been tweaked with software that has smoothed some of the details?
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Potentially, which is why I admit that it is possible it's AI slop.

As I said before though, there are too many small details right to make me believe it's a fake. AI tends to make big errors with uniforms, and turn he sky cartoonish. The clouds look period photography correct, to an extent I have never seen AI replicate.

The uniforms are a bit odd, but no less odd than most ship's companies I have sailed with. When I was on WIN in 2015/16, I and the rest of the RCAF DEU folks were still rocking gold badges and buttons long after the rest of the RCAF DEU folks had switched to the new versions.
 
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