NEP II

[a_majoor]

Well, that didn't take long

http://dissonanceanddisrespect.blogspot.com/2007/02/national-energy-program-part-deux.html

National Energy Program: Part Deux

Mark Holland has accidentally let slip Stephane Dion's hidden agenda

Perhaps Kyoto began as an honest, if misguided, attempt to deal with the effects of climate change.

Now it's become the trojan horse of the economic dirigistes and the transnational progressive elites.

Can nationalization of the Alberta oil sands to prevent their development be far behind under a Dion government?

Commentary is interesting as well:

5 Comments:
Brian Lemon said...
Did you see him try to defend himself on Duffy today against James Rajotte??
In texas they say big hat no cattle.
blahblahblah.
They split screened and Rajotte looked incredulous. Like WTF is this dude sayin....

Talk about policy by morons on the fly.

2/02/2007 8:12 PM

 
Anonymous said...
I heard Holland on Adler and started thinking Civil War.

2/02/2007 8:21 PM

 
Anonymous said...
Shutting down the entire Quebec aerospace industry would be a small start followed by the auto industry in Ontario, since that still wouldn't satisfy Kyoto then they could destroy Alberta.

2/02/2007 9:22 PM

 
hunter said...
Holland is in big trouble. The Liberals are in even bigger trouble, because they have not denied what Holland said. Guess they are hoping that this will die down over the weekend. We need to get it in the news. So, far, nothing about this in any papers.

2/02/2007 9:28 PM

 
john said...
Mark Holland represents the riding of Ajax-Pickering. Waiting for the first reporter to ask him if would support expansion of OPG Pickering Nuclear to help us meet our Kyoto targets. Waiting....

Someone also needs to ask him about Durham Transit. They were on strike for three months and nobody noticed. Memo to Mark: All of your constituents drive to work, drive to school, drive to shop. All. You kinda need to explain to them what Kyoto really means to them. You do want to get re-elected, no?

 

[Osotogari]

Here's Mark Holland in all his glory with the radio interview that started it all:

http://www.cjob.com/shows/adler.aspx?mc=63069

Being from Alberta and a kid during the original NEP, I can tell you that putting us through all that again would be at the very least a major national unity issue.  I don't think you'll find too many Albertans who are against cutting pollution but having the feds dictate what to do with OUR resource as well as the forced contributions to carbon credit purchasing are intolerable.  I also can't think that anyone from Nfld or Saskatchewan is keen on this either, given what's happening to their economies as well.

Memo to those in other parts of the country who aren't aware of the real situation:  The oil in Alberta belongs to the people of Alberta.  It's our resource for us to develop and sell.  We sell it at world market prices and industry is working on ways to work more efficiently and cut not only carbon emissions but other forms of pollution as well. 

Memo to the eastern Lib pricks:  Our prosperity is keeping all your make-work projects, money laundering schemes, and social engineering experiments afloat, so leave us the hell alone to live our lives and earn a living.  No Alberta oil patch, no equalization. There you go, not that I'm completely in favour of equalization.  It's like being forced to support your dope-smoking 32-year-old career student kid until he's finished "finding himself"   

The carbon trading portion of Kyoto is a scam, the emission targets are unobtainable especially in light of the inaction up to this point.  In fact, the only reason this is an issue at all is one balmy December in Toronto and the people there end up doing this Chicken Little "The sky is falling" dance and CBC picks up on it.  As soon as Kyoto costs the job of any CAW member in Ontario, then just watch everyone cutting away from this issue as well. 

 

[Rifleman62]

Plus Holland stated something along the lines of mining the resource just to give it to the Americans. I wonder if he goes to movies, watches TV, watches the Superbowl, eats oranges, tomatoes, celery in the Winter. If he does, does he realize that these are products of the USA? If he hates the USA so much, his entire lifestyle should be sans anything US.

 

[Boxkicker]

I just listened to the interview on Charles Adler's website. I must ask why doe's Holland and the Liberals only mention Alberta. Does Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia, BC and Newfoundland not have Oil and gas production as well.  I am sure the idea would be more Nuclear plants in Ontario to make up for the energy shortfalls, would be next. Of course that would mean Job's lost out west and More jobs in Ontario, and oh Jeez Ontario and Qubec have been placated and the Liberals are elected again.  Like normal for them screw the west and suckhole to the east.

 

[DBA]

Plus Holland stated something along the lines of mining the resource just to give it to the Americans. I wonder if he goes to movies, watches TV, watches the Superbowl, eats oranges, tomatoes, celery in the Winter. If he does, does he realize that these are products of the USA? If he hates the USA so much, his entire lifestyle should be sans anything US.

It's what the phrase leaves out: any benefit to the environment since actual CO2 emissions don't change much if this scenario happens (the shipping of tar sands to the USA for processing). If our goal of shutting down tar sands development and processing is to help reduce global emissions then merely shifting the emissions someplace else may make us look/feel good but doesn't actually accomplish anything in that regard. It just shifts economic activity someplace else which is where the mine and ship to the USA comes from. I don't think it's a shot at the USA.