New Ships for the Navy

[hugh19]

brock The Preserver wasn‘t decommisioned the Provider was. Plus we can‘t man the ships we have now much less any more. The Huron was decommed so her crew could be sent to man the rst of the fleet.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

If you are talking 6 ships you are talking of approx 800 sailors....500 we might be able to get from the 2 AORs we now have because we are all sailing shorthanded now.....thats still 300 short.

 

[Spr.Earl]

Some links about Azi Pods and their applications.
Some good reading.
The last link note the power plant‘s and what they are driving.

"Voyager is 1,021 feet in length, 157.5 feet wide (at the bridge wings), with a 29 foot draft. She is 142,000 tons. Voyager carries 3,114 passengers (double occupancy), with a maximum capacity of 3,838 (all berths filled). Registered in Liberia, she is operated by officers of many nations, and served by an international crew numbering 1,176. Diesel engines supply 75,600 kilowatts of power for three electric propulsion motors located in azipods beneath the hull."

http://evolution.skf.com/gb/article.asp?articleID=384

http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/botnica/

http://www.fortunecity.com/oasis/tropicana/431/Voyager.html

 

[Spr.Earl]

Originally posted by Brock:
[qb] Ex-Dragoon. The current Protecteur AOR class operate with a crew of about 275--excluding air detachment; 365 with--whereas modern AOR ships operate with only 125 give or take a few sailors. Four AOR ships with a crew of 125 add up to 500, plus two transport ships at 125 add up to 750 sailors and officers versus 550 and don‘t forget we only very recently retired the HMCS Preserver which if you add it up equals 825 crew members for only 3 ships. A pretty good deal all things considered more ships and therefore longer sustained op tempo, with lower personnel requirements. What a deal. The Dutch Navy has two ship designs that could suit the Canadian Navy‘s needs very well without breaking the budget.

check out this link at http://www.scheldeshipbuilding.com/schelde%20enforcer.htm :look at the "Enforcer" amphibious transport ship designs that are low cost and two of the medium sized designs would perfectly suit army support and sealift needs. The British, Dutch and Spanish navies operate 8 ships based on this design built in the last 10 years.

This link shows http://www.scheldeshipbuilding.com/products.html# the Dutch Navy‘s "Amsterdam" fleet logistic support ship design, also very well suited to the Canadian Navy‘s needs. [/qb]

Brock the trouble with ship design is by the time everyone agrees with the drawing‘s can be up 5yrs then you start with Tank test‘s for stability of the hull design under light ship condition‘s loaded condition‘s under fare weather and foul weather sea state‘s and if they fail you go back to the drawing board.

The biggest cost in the long run is choice of power plant and auxiliary machineries because if you don‘t buy the best for the application you will end up paying more in the long run.Also standardisation is alss key factor as it can reduce costs.

 

[1feral1]

The Australian Defence Force does NOT have Marines, but we have specialist Infantry (SASR and Cdo) trained in water ops of whatever degree.

There is also Army attached to RAN vessels as required.

Cheers,

Wes