Newfoundland Goes Blue

[Halifax Tar]

Well done Newfoundland and Labrador.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/livestory/recap-progressive-conservatives-will-form-majority-government-in-n-l-9.6935250

 

[Navy_Pete]

Not really surprised, but the difference between the various provincial Conservative governments and the federal CPC is getting bigger, with the CPC being more like the Reform party in blue, and aligning better to parties like the populist Wild Rose party, and not typical conservatives.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Considering they have kept the PC name, I am assuming they are just right of centre and likley left of anything in Alberta?

 

[Kirkhill]

Considering they have kept the PC name, I am assuming they are just right of centre and likley left of anything in Alberta?

Not really surprised, but the difference between the various provincial Conservative governments and the federal CPC is getting bigger, with the CPC being more like the Reform party in blue, and aligning better to parties like the populist Wild Rose party, and not typical conservatives.

Keep at it lads. Keep at it.

Eventually you will convince us that we are un-Canadian.

 

[RangerRay]

My understanding is that there is very little differentiating the PCs and Liberals out east. Just that different people get access to patronage.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Keep at it lads. Keep at it.

Eventually you will convince us that we are un-Canadian.

Nothing really like that, just that the federal CPC is a lot more regional than it used to be before the merger, and Stephen Harper had more success by violently repressing the anti-abortion and other socially regressive elements of the party. Ontario, NS, and NL PCs generally don't tolerate that stance and have tossed MPPs and candidates in the past for it, so easy example where there is a major difference on a redline issue between provincial and federal parties. Also seems like Jenny on the CPC side has an extremely petty streak and actively drives the provincial counterparts away, so other than colour of the signs there is really very little common ground.

Similarly the NDP gave way too much talking time to the lunatic fringes, and went from being a blue collar, farmer and labour union party to the current unfocused mess they are now, and the Trudeau Liberals leaned heavily into identity politics.

It's a lot of navel gazing about fringe issues on the federal side that means real problems go from being front and center to sidebars from all of them, and would happily vote for an old school PC, Liberal or NDP party from 20ish years ago over any of them.

Carney is carrying a lot of baggage from that I think , but is at least doing some real changes on big picture things at the strategic level with some generational level projects. The goals of things like reducing reliance on the US as a partner, energy independence and similar are pretty cross party, it's really in the details where people disagree how to get there.

 

[Kirkhill]

Still waiting for Carney to stop convening and start acting.

The Budget is due out on November 4.
Guy Fawkes Day is November 5.

 

[Blackadder1916]

It's been many years ago and many miles away since I've had a first hand view of Newfoundland politics, but I do like following some of the strange machinations of political personalities back on the Rock.

As to what differentiates a Newfoundland conservative from a liberal (or from a socialist - NDP?), applying examples from other jurisdictions don't always work. I show my age when I automatically resurrect the ghost of Joey Smallwood as the first example of a Newf Liberal (though as Churchill Falls and the latest MOU with Quebec was an issue in this election, even a stake through the heart of the little guy from Gambo can't entirely erase him from resurrection); and then the quintessential Newfoundland Progressive Conservative on the federal scene was John Crosbie who would have likely become a Liberal premier of the province had he (and others) not had a disagreement with Joey, leading him to cross the floor and become a PC.

In a province in which a former leader of the provincial NDP ran as an independent in two separate ridings (yes, two, in the same election), trying to figure out the personal political philosophy of a Newfoundlander Labradorian is sometimes confusing, such as one who easily moved from PC to Independent to NDP and back to PC in this election.

Lela Evans - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org