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News Item on Reserves 12 Mar 04

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From Globe and Mail - 12 Mar 04

Canada‘s reserves to act as a homeland defence force: senior official

Winnipeg â ” Canada‘s army reserves will be trained and equipped as a homeland defence force that could respond to terrorist threats, including chemical, biological and nuclear attacks, says a senior defence official in Ottawa.

It‘s just one part of an expanded role for the reserves that will see the part-time soldiers forge deeper links with civil authorities such as police and firefighting forces, said Maj.-Gen. Ed Fitch, commander of the Land Force Reserve Restructure project.

That new role will lead to a better response to domestic emergencies, Maj.-Gen. Fitch said in an interview this week from Ottawa.

Other plans call for the creation of armed security platoons that could be deployed within hours to support civil authorities, Maj.-Gen. Fitch said.

"It‘s all about getting the army ready for this century of surprises, and the reserves have an important part in that.

"The reserves have been left out of anything transformational for the last 30 or 40 years, but we‘ve woken up and we‘re moving quickly to make sure they‘re relevant, sustainable and viable."

There are about 15,000 reserve soldiers in Canada. Plans are to raise that number to 18,500 by 2006. Critics say the number should be at least 25,000.

While the risk of a terrorist attack, either domestic or foreign in origin, may be low, Maj.-Gen. Fitch said it‘s the job of the military "to imagine the unimaginable and put preparations in place."

"Look at Madrid," he said, referring to terrorist attacks Thursday that killed at least 190 people and wounded almost 1,500.

Two 30-member, reserve-force platoons being trained in Canada‘s capital region will demonstrate their skills in front of key national policy-makers during a cross-training exercise with civil agencies this fall, the general said.

The plan is to provide similar skills and the necessary equipment to reserve units located in 115 communities across the country, a process that could take several years, Maj.-Gen. Fitch explained.

There is a question about how many new skills can be "stuffed into a part-time soldier," he acknowledged, but added skills will be tailored to the needs of local communities.

The regular army recently established a 150-soldier-strong company in Trenton, Ont., to deal exclusively with biological, chemical and nuclear threats.

The unit would respond to an attack anywhere in Canada, but it could take a few days before it was deployed as the army would wait to see if it was an isolated attack, Maj.-Gen. Fitch explained. Local emergency crews would be the first responders.

"I think there‘s going to be a great demand for security, and that demand will quickly go beyond what your local police force can manage," he said.

However, the reserves, who are spread out thinly across the country, are not the total answer, Maj.-Gen. Fitch added.

"But we can have a good effect in some places."

National Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan has announced a series of initiatives to boost security. They mainly involve a reconfiguration of several security agencies and a promise to increase the number of reserve troops available to handle disasters and other emergencies.
 
This is good. I‘m glad to see the Federal Gov‘t finally seeing the reserves as capable of handling the ‘tough‘ jobs. I look forward to seeing what type of new reforms will be coming our (the reserves) way over the next few years.
 
In Australia, its called th RRF (Reserve Reaction Force, and has been effective since Nov 03, and work up trg in 2 Div, was commenced back in Sep 03.

Its to guard ‘likely targeted‘ areas, such as dams, power stns, nations icons (Harbour Bridge, Opera House, etc), and a variety of terrorist threat related duties.

Other units such as SF are deployed now in Sydney, on a 24hr watch, as sadly, there is a direct threat of attack here. The PM says its a matter of time.

Cheers,

Wes

Cheers,

Wes
 
They keep trying to do something like that in 32 Brigade. We have a Domestice Response Company. In theory each Infantry unit is supposed to have a platoons worth of soldiers ready to go at a moments notice for this DRC. Last time we did anything was about two years ago and it was a gaglef***.
 
I gotta say, I‘ll believe this when I see it. Since we don‘t have enough equipment, money or time now to do our "normal" training, I‘m not sure how we are going to fit any extra training in. Maybe if the MLOC stuff were pared down. I‘m having a hard time getting my support weapons serviced, and having running trucks. Time will tell I guess.
 
There‘s a theory in project management which goes like this - what you should do is travel the shortest distance between two points. What we in DND end up doing is apeing the government by not investing in any capability --> ie: how we went from capable in the 1960s to a burned out hulk of capabilities in the 2000s.

What does it take to get back on that line? LOTS OF CASH! Which is going into the health care system and every jinked up vote getting government program ever dreamed up by Gene and his minions.

So when will it all change? When the martians land or when Georgie Bush sends the cash up here, and I am a dual USA Cdn passport holder.

Sad news is - Georgie doesn‘t need us to do anyting - as Gene used to say.

Say! Do I see the computers in the Rideau Canal? :)
 
How about some job protection for those of us who would have to leave our civilian jobs to participate in an sort of emergency?
 
I agree the jobs should be federally insured like the american‘s.
 
Yup - job protection of some sort would be nice - I just got back from Afghanistan, and as of Wednesday I‘ll be on unemployment insurance (my five-year-old son‘s birthday - nice touch, eh?)
 
Happy Birthday to Bossi‘s Five year old son
(Sorry if this is offenive)
I guess this is for the better and I beleive I enlisted at the right time but when are we gonna find our if our units doin the new stuff?
 
Funny, an Army Reserve that can‘t afford C9 ammo can specialize as a terrorist response unit. Lets work on fire and movement first and leave this for the big boys.
 
an Army Reserve that can‘t afford C9 ammo
Sure we can but you infantry guys keep making spent casings out of live ammo. Can we not keep it on the shelf for awhile? ;)
 
Gunner, this whole issue of having the ammunition to train properly was highlighted today on my DP2A machine gunner course.

We have very few proficient MGers in our unit, even though several have taken MG courses and fired many thousands of rounds through the C6 and C9.

The reason? It takes practice and lots of it to maintain good MG skills. Apparently, it can take up to 3 days of running the PWT on the C9 to get a sufficient number of people passing it -- they almost all fail on the first two days. Most reserve infantry units can‘t afford the time and ammunition to run C9‘s for three days on a range, and usually you get one full range day a year (ELOC/MLOC/whatever it‘s called).

An infantry unit‘s task is usually to field X number of C6‘s and C9‘s, and the riflemen to support and protect them. If the gunners can‘t hit the target consistently, then there seems to be little value in centering the protection around them as is done.

It takes money to buy the ammo and get the gunners proficient.

I am sure this is the same situation in the artillery. Your task is to get rounds down range, everything else is ancillary. Every pde night or work period you are not putting rounds down range is of secondary importance.

Do I expect us to be having a range weekend every week, then? No. The other training is also very important. But we shouldn‘t lose focus of our primary task.
 
Note ;) in my last post. I think it means tongue firmly in cheek.
 
I was just talking about blank rounds for a militia concentration to boot.
 
A key component of several counter-terrorism plans in Canada is to maintain public confidence (i.e. avoid panic in the aftermath of a terrorist event - whereas "anti-terrorist" is more pre-emptive ... let‘s not kid ourselves - these reserve platoons wouldn‘t be anti-terrorist units, they‘d simply be for the aftermath) - thus, if anything were to happen there‘d be the usual "... where‘s the Army when we need them ..." - so, it‘s not the dumbest idea in the world to have a "show of force" on the shelf, ready to go.

Hmmm ... here‘s a fictional story if anybody needs a quick fix of junk food reading:

It couldn‘t happen here, could it?
 
All‘s the Pl.‘s would be used for would be perimiter security while the boy‘s in black did their job or protection of vital asset‘s in the extreme senerio i.e total alert.IMO
What else could they do?
Any more suggestion‘s?
 
The PWT for the C9 is pretty dumb. Your taking an area effect weapon and are trying to go for accuracy.

I think we need (in the infantry anyway) need to keep up to date on all the weapons organic to an infantry platoon more than once a year. Theres no excuse for trained privates forgetting their drills, let alone corporals.

Simply put we need to do more range and field shooting.
 
Originally posted by Ghost778:
[qb] The PWT for the C9 is pretty dumb. Your taking an area effect weapon and are trying to go for accuracy.

I think we need (in the infantry anyway) need to keep up to date on all the weapons organic to an infantry platoon more than once a year. Theres no excuse for trained privates forgetting their drills, let alone corporals.

Simply put we need to do more range and field shooting. [/qb]
Ghost when I read 3 day‘s to pass PWT for C9 I thought "Are they dummies?"
I‘m M.G. qualified right up to .50 and still use the .50 even today (QCB).
C6 and C9 are a piece of cake compared to the .50
I still think that the infantry still should be taught the .50 and have them.

As you say "all organic weapons" they are your tool‘s of the trade and you must use them.
I still know the C6,C9 and .50 and fire the 6 and 50 at least once a year and my drill‘s are second nature and I know how to completly strip all of them and repair them with the complete issue kit with spare parts.

It‘s money and time and that‘s why we are getting substanded training and substanded soldiers today.We can‘t blame the new kid‘s as the don‘t know any differant but you and I do.

Let‘s see if Paul keep‘s his word. ;)
 
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