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North Pole Now a Lake
By Becky Oskin, Staff Writer  |  July 23, 2013
http://www.livescience.com/38347-north-pole-ice-melt-lake.html

Instead of snow and ice whirling on the wind, a foot-deep aquamarine lake now sloshes around a webcam stationed at the North Pole. The meltwater lake started forming July 13, following two weeks of warm weather in the high Arctic. In early July, temperatures were 2 to 5 degrees Fahrenheit (1 to 3 degrees Celsius) higher than average over much of the Arctic Ocean, according to the National Snow & Ice Data Center.

Meltwater ponds sprout more easily on young, thin ice, which now accounts for more than half of the Arctic's sea ice. The ponds link up across the smooth surface of the ice, creating a network that traps heat from the sun. Thick and wrinkly multi-year ice, which has survived more than one freeze-thaw season, is less likely sport a polka-dot network of ponds because of its rough, uneven surface.

July is the melting month in the Arctic, when sea ice shrinks fastest. An Arctic cyclone, which can rival a hurricane in strength, is forecast for this week, which will further fracture the ice and churn up warm ocean water, hastening the summer melt. The Arctic hit a record low summer ice melt last year on Sept. 16, 2012, the smallest recorded since satellites began tracking the Arctic ice in the 1970s.

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A picture of a buoy anchored near a remote webcam at the North Pole shows a meltwater lake surrounding the camera on July 22.
 
Interesting.  I wonder who thought that a buoy was necessary to mount this camera on?  Seems a little suspicious to me.  Do they have a similar camera mounted on a buoy at the South Pole?
 
I thought this was debunked?  Smalldeadanimals.com had a piece on this recently where it was revealed that the buoy in question was actually 375NM south of the North Pole.
 
Must be getting a lot colder  25 years ago it was open ocean in May, not just some melt water on top of 10 feet of ice.



 
http://junkscience.com/2013/07/26/the-lake-at-the-north-pole-how-bad-is-it/

Nothing to see here folks.
 
I should have read a little further down the comments section (although I hate reading comments....thanks CBC ). There is this

Bill Jamison · University of California, San Diego
Too bad that cam isn't really at the North Pole! It's drifted about 350 miles south since it was deployed.

"UPDATE: I received a reply via email from Roger Anderson, who is one of the webcam scientists at the Universtiy of Washington. I had asked him if the media was using the webcams that were NOT at the North Pole, but rather drifting southward. He replied: "Yes, they are. The approximate position of the webcams today (obtained from PAWS Buoy 819920) is 07/25/1500Z 84.773°N 5.415°W." This is even further south than I had placed the buoy, because the data I had was one week old. This puts the webcam at approximately 350 miles south of the North Pole, closer to Greenland than Santa Claus! So no worries, folks, the North Pole is not melting."

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/did-the-media-just-prove-north-pole-is-not-melting/15739869

But don't let the truth get in the way of a great story!

Map of buoys: http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northpole/pngs/DriftMap.png.
 
In related news, four guys trying to save the world from climate change are attempting to row the North West Passage and having some difficulty.

http://mainstreamlastfirst.com/

Kinda looks like trying hard but not making much progress. They seemed surprised by Arctic Weather.

Bet they would really like to see ice free waters, but the forecast is not in their favour.  Their voyage has attracted some interweb attention.


http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/todays-progress/




They will need all the luck and great weather they can get to make it half way to PI.



Wonder if they liaised with any SAR  resources or if an RSS is following their progress and thinking about resourcing a rescue mission.  Herc out of Trenton?


 
Here is a link to yesterday's ice cover. What was the bit about rowing through the North West Passage again?

http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims/ims_gif/DATA/cursnow_alaska.gif
 
Journeyman said:
What's an RSS?

Ahh my bad . . . Sun, beer, BBQ and typing  smashup.

Should be RCC,  although I think now they are called Joint Rescue Coordination Centres.
 
GAP said:
I should have read a little further down the comments section (although I hate reading comments....thanks CBC ). There is this

Bill Jamison · University of California, San Diego
Too bad that cam isn't really at the North Pole! It's drifted about 350 miles south since it was deployed.

"UPDATE: I received a reply via email from Roger Anderson, who is one of the webcam scientists at the Universtiy of Washington. I had asked him if the media was using the webcams that were NOT at the North Pole, but rather drifting southward. He replied: "Yes, they are. The approximate position of the webcams today (obtained from PAWS Buoy 819920) is 07/25/1500Z 84.773°N 5.415°W." This is even further south than I had placed the buoy, because the data I had was one week old. This puts the webcam at approximately 350 miles south of the North Pole, closer to Greenland than Santa Claus! So no worries, folks, the North Pole is not melting."

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/did-the-media-just-prove-north-pole-is-not-melting/15739869

But don't let the truth get in the way of a great story!

Map of buoys: http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northpole/pngs/DriftMap.png.

Wherever it is, nice time lapse.

http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/np2013/2013-cam2.mov

 
It's also drifted into an area that can receive the North Atlantic Current.
 
Nemo888 said:
It's also drifted into an area that can receive the North Atlantic Current.

...and getting 24/7 sunshine.  Pictures don't show the limited depth of the water, nor the underlying ice beneath the surface water.

I like the picture of the three nuke subs trying "really hard to break through the 100's of meters of ice back in the 80's..."  ::)
 
SeaKingTacco said:
it was revealed that the buoy in question was actually 375NM south of the North Pole.

South, but in which direction ??  ;)
 
GAP said:
uh....south?

Towards Greenland



GAP said:
The approximate position of the webcams today (obtained from PAWS Buoy 819920) is 07/25/1500Z 84.773°N 5.415°W." This is even further south than I had placed the buoy, because the data I had was one week old. This puts the webcam at approximately 350 miles south of the North Pole, closer to Greenland than Santa Claus! So no worries, folks, the North Pole is not melting."

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/did-the-media-just-prove-north-pole-is-not-melting/15739869

But don't let the truth get in the way of a great story!

Map of buoys: http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northpole/pngs/DriftMap.png.
 
Answers for the curious.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/29/al-gores-reality-minions-think-the-north-pole-is-melting-except-thats-not-a-photo-of-the-north-pole/

 
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