Oldest and Senior Regiments/Units

[pbi]

Sh0rtbUs: Are you sure it's copper? It is not too likely that copper would be used for flooring: it's pretty soft, and a fairly expesive way to floor a building. Could it be some other type of metal?

From what I have seen, most armouries have either a sealed and painted concrete floor or a composition floor, although smaller armouries (like Thomas Street in Oakville, Ontario) might have wood or linoleum.

Cheers

 

[PPCLI Guy]

The oldest infantry unit in Canada is the CGG - they trace unbroken lineage back to the First Battalion Montreal Militia in 1760.  IIRC, the oldest serving under the same name is the QOR.

Dave

 

[RatCatcher]

I do know that in the medical units 1 Fd Amb in Edmonton is the oldest medical unit, the youngest is 5 Amb de Camp in Valcartier. 2 Fd Amb is somewhere in the middle....

 

[chrisf]

(47) The Royal Newfoundland Regiment.

What's up with the RNR being last? They were formed in 1795 if I recall correctly...

 

[Gunner]

What's up with the RNR being last? They were formed in 1795 if I recall correctly...

There is a difference between when they were formed and their order of precedence (see comments above).  RNR didn't join the Canadian Order of Battle until 1949.

 

[chrisf]

That's what I figured, but I had to ask anyway. Thanks.

 

[old medic]

. Just out of curiousity, whats the deal with the copper in the floors? Aurora's floors actually rust when wet due to the Tanks that once inhabited the building. I'm aware of its purpose, but how common is it in the Armouries around Canada. As well, I think its copper. Correct me if Im wrong (more than likely am)

Copper is very rare for flooring. It can be decorative in modern housing, but in really old buildings copper plating was used as
a heat shield when a stove, furnace, or boiler was on the floor.  Do you mean boiler tanks ?

http://www.hms-trincomalee.co.uk/virtual/detail/images/stove.htm

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Copper doesn't rust. If it oxidizes, it turns green. Are you saying that the whole floor is copper? Or flecs of something mixed with the concrete floor. There is absolutley no reason why copper would have been used in a floor for tanks. It has nothing whatsoever to do with it. Iron filings may have been used as filler, but it's not a comon practice. The amount of steel left on the concrete from steel tracks would have been worn off and gone along time ago.

 

[pbi]

On this business of who is "oldest" (vice who is "senior") it is worth remembering that until and unless we change our laws, no unit can officially claim lineage before the Militia Act of 1856. Unit histories, etc that claim descent originating before then are great, but they really don't cut much official ice.

Cheers.

 

[Michael Dorosh]

On this business of who is "oldest" (vice who is "senior") it is worth remembering that until and unless we change our laws, no unit can officially claim lineage before the Militia Act of 1856. Unit histories, etc that claim descent originating before then are great, but they really don't cut much official ice.

Cheers.

Where did Hamilton Gault lose his leg?

 

[PPCLI Guy]

On this business of who is "oldest" (vice who is "senior") it is worth remembering that until and unless we change our laws, no unit can officially claim lineage before the Militia Act of 1856. Unit histories, etc that claim descent originating before then are great, but they really don't cut much official ice.

Cheers.

I was wondering who would catch me on that one....

Dave

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Where did Hamilton Gault lose his leg?

Below the knee.

Couldn't resist.

Dave

 

[pbi]

Yuk. Yuk. Yuk. I haven't heard that one in years.

Cheers

 

[Michael Dorosh]

See?  You see?  You don't need to be an OLD regiment to be the FUNNIEST regiment!

They have a million of those, folks!

 

[big bad john]

30,000 comedians in the country and we get him!  LOL

 

[Gayson]

The Aurora floor rusts because it is full of steel.  The Armoury once stored 4 sherman tanks.

You can see the steel fillings in the concrete.

 

[vangemeren]

I have a hypothetical question. If for some reason a new reg force regiment was formed:

a) how do they choose the name?
b) would they pick a res unit and convert it?
c) is the order of presidence just for parades or would it apply in this situation as well?

 

[bridges]

Just wanted to drop in here for a sec and thank gunner for the link & list at http://my.tbaytel.net/tgroulx/precedence.htm.  Very useful, even if updated versions are also avail.  Thanks.

 

[pbi]

I have a hypothetical question. If for some reason a new reg force regiment was formed:

a) how do they choose the name?
b) would they pick a res unit and convert it?
c) is the order of presidence just for parades or would it apply in this situation as well?

The last time we came close to this in the Cbt Arm (not counting JTF II) was the "re-activation" of the Fort Garry Horse" as the 1 Cdn Div Recce Regt, during the build-up of our forces in Germany in the 80's. Beyond assigning a few RegF armoured types to the FGH capbadge, I'm not sure very much happened. Our practice of reducing redundant units to nil strength and making them dormant, as opposed to disbanding them, means that if we need to we can reactivate the name complete with badges, traditions, etc.

Cheers

 

[Sh0rtbUs]

The Aurora floor rusts because it is full of steel.  The Armoury once stored 4 sherman tanks.

You can see the steel fillings in the concrete.

I was just taking a guess at Copper. Thanx Gayson, I owe you a Guiness 

How common is this throughout Canada?