Ontario Lottery Corporation Strikes Out Again
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Okay, I have to jump in here.karl28 said:
I know that there are issues with GM, but from my personal experience, it doesn't have anything to do with quality. I guess my experience has been different than yours.
I drive a '99 GMC Ext Cab 4x4 and for the most part have had little issues with it. In 10 years, I've done 1 tune up and only changed the battery, rear brakes, tires and leaf springs (ya, I broke them). I still have my original front brakes! I've certainly got my money's worth and more. My wife drives a '05 Pontiac Montana and so far (other than a sensor and some crappy Continental tires) things are good. My family has always driven GM products and have never had major problems.
It can be argued that every manufacturer both domestic and foreign do have some issues with their vehicles. I work with a guy who owned a Mercedes and had nothing but headaches with it. People are buying tons of KIA's, but I heard some real horror stories from someone who use to be a service manager at the local dealer.
Anyway, my :2c:
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Give me a break!!
I own a 2004 Honda Odysee, this van has been in shop it seems more than what it has been on the road. After 136,000 Km the transmission started to act up, Sitting at a red light, light turns green press on gas no go, shut of engine, restart engine put it into drive it goes . The dealers solution was to band aid the problem by flashing the TCM, this lasted for all about a week or so until the problem returned. Each time I brought it back they would give me a different cockamamie story. Until I Finlay wrote Honda and told them to fix the problem or I'd take them to court, "Laugh Chuckle" they thought that was a quite the joke. After almost a year of shouting and screaming on my part they relented and said they would pay 25% of the cost to replace the transmission. I had 15 more months to pay on the van. I really didn't have much of a choice so I paid the extra $2100.00 to have the transmission replaced.
So far these are the list of items that have gone wrong with this POS.
Transmission
Wiper motor
Eats CV boots (on 2ND set)
Rear lift gate electric release latch doesn't work anymore
Horn works sometimes.
Either this van built on Friday by workers who had a bit to much rice wine or on a Monday after a weekend binge.
Only reason I still have it, is because I got laid of and can't afford a new vehicle.
Before the Honda I owned a Dodge Caravan, it to ate transmissions among many other problems.
American, Japanese, the only difference is, the hype.
I own a 2004 Honda Odysee, this van has been in shop it seems more than what it has been on the road. After 136,000 Km the transmission started to act up, Sitting at a red light, light turns green press on gas no go, shut of engine, restart engine put it into drive it goes . The dealers solution was to band aid the problem by flashing the TCM, this lasted for all about a week or so until the problem returned. Each time I brought it back they would give me a different cockamamie story. Until I Finlay wrote Honda and told them to fix the problem or I'd take them to court, "Laugh Chuckle" they thought that was a quite the joke. After almost a year of shouting and screaming on my part they relented and said they would pay 25% of the cost to replace the transmission. I had 15 more months to pay on the van. I really didn't have much of a choice so I paid the extra $2100.00 to have the transmission replaced.
So far these are the list of items that have gone wrong with this POS.
Transmission
Wiper motor
Eats CV boots (on 2ND set)
Rear lift gate electric release latch doesn't work anymore
Horn works sometimes.
Either this van built on Friday by workers who had a bit to much rice wine or on a Monday after a weekend binge.
Only reason I still have it, is because I got laid of and can't afford a new vehicle.
Before the Honda I owned a Dodge Caravan, it to ate transmissions among many other problems.
American, Japanese, the only difference is, the hype.
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retiredgrunt45 said:
I think there's winners and losers on both sides, but the Japanese seem to have more winners.
My parents owned a Ford Aerostar, they loved that van and it gave them no big problems, until someone decided to drive into it at 80 km/h and total it.
They then bought a Ford Winstar, which they hated. Around a month after the warranty expired, the transmission dropped, aside from a whole host of other problems.
After this came a Toyota Sienna, an amazing van. While it's still fairly new, there's not been a single problem. It also has the tightest turning radius I've see on any vehicle.
I've got a '99 GMC Jimmy, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. There were a few problems, due to lack of maintenance from the previous owners, but for 8 grand, no complaints here.
My grand parents had a 2006 SS Impala, what an engine that had! However, it burnt oil among other problems, and they went back to buying Buicks.
Sometimes it almost seems like luck of the draw...
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[RICE] said:
I drive a '95 Areostar, it has its issues, most related to age now.
1995 was the year that Ford had solved most of the problems with the vehicle (under-powered engines, poor transmission quality, etc). It was also the year they planned to shut down production. It was only after a public campaign of protest that Ford decided to produce it for the '96 and '97 model years, overlapping its replacement, the Windstar.
Basically, the company was so focused on change over improvement, it took over decade to get the vehicle "right", just in time for its demise as a production model.
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Sorry Michael, no "scrappage" for you........ :'(
Budget junks scrappage plans for cars
Tony Van Alphen
Business Reporter
Some of Ontario's struggling automakers expressed disappointment and surprise yesterday that the provincial budget did not contain a scrappage program or sales tax holiday to jump-start a sagging market.
Automakers had touted a scrappage program with incentives of at least $2,000 for clunkers as an effective way to boost sales, which have crashed here and in the U.S.
Premier Dalton McGuinty and Finance Minister Dwight Duncan had indicated some interest in a scrappage program after hearing from automakers, including Ford and Toyota, but yesterday's budget contained no such incentives.
"I would've preferred consumer incentives in the marketplace," said Stephen Beatty, managing director of Toyota Canada. "This now clearly puts the onus on the federal government on how to bring consumers in the marketplace."
The industry has criticized Ottawa for what it calls an ineffective federal scrappage program that gives motorists a scant $300 for vehicles 12 years old or older.
Automakers have also pressed Ottawa to immediately implement a new $12 billion credit program so dealers and consumers can get access to loans. Ottawa announced the program in January but it won't take effect until June at the earliest.
Automakers say the market needs incentives immediately because now is traditionally the biggest selling period of the year. Ontario is the country's biggest market.
Beatty noted his company is awaiting a report from a parliamentary subcommittee that may recommend immediate stimulus packages for the marketplace.
In Germany, the government is considering extending its scrappage incentive program to the end of the year because of its success in spurring sales. Dealers report the program has jacked up slumping sales by about 10 per cent.
Budget junks scrappage plans for cars
Tony Van Alphen
Business Reporter
Some of Ontario's struggling automakers expressed disappointment and surprise yesterday that the provincial budget did not contain a scrappage program or sales tax holiday to jump-start a sagging market.
Automakers had touted a scrappage program with incentives of at least $2,000 for clunkers as an effective way to boost sales, which have crashed here and in the U.S.
Premier Dalton McGuinty and Finance Minister Dwight Duncan had indicated some interest in a scrappage program after hearing from automakers, including Ford and Toyota, but yesterday's budget contained no such incentives.
"I would've preferred consumer incentives in the marketplace," said Stephen Beatty, managing director of Toyota Canada. "This now clearly puts the onus on the federal government on how to bring consumers in the marketplace."
The industry has criticized Ottawa for what it calls an ineffective federal scrappage program that gives motorists a scant $300 for vehicles 12 years old or older.
Automakers have also pressed Ottawa to immediately implement a new $12 billion credit program so dealers and consumers can get access to loans. Ottawa announced the program in January but it won't take effect until June at the earliest.
Automakers say the market needs incentives immediately because now is traditionally the biggest selling period of the year. Ontario is the country's biggest market.
Beatty noted his company is awaiting a report from a parliamentary subcommittee that may recommend immediate stimulus packages for the marketplace.
In Germany, the government is considering extending its scrappage incentive program to the end of the year because of its success in spurring sales. Dealers report the program has jacked up slumping sales by about 10 per cent.
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Bruce Monkhouse said:
Well then, I guess it's time to file off the VIN and loosen the screws on the plates. Then I'll only have to grab the plates and the loose change from the ashtray when it dies. ;D
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