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Just wondering what you guys think of the views expressed in this video?

It's a short video of a round-table answering a question on PT testing, with military testing being specifically addressed.

http://vimeo.com/14819054
 
I bought Starting Strength a few years back and I agree entirely with what they said.
Are you referring to the initial PT test that aspiring CF members do?

If yes, then:

That being said, the bench is as "useless" as the push up, but I would say a push up is much more realistic of what will be asked than a bench press.

The problem you have is that a lot of combat situations cannot be properly trained for by your average person.
How many people have access to weight vests that would simulate a forced march with 80 pounds?
You also can't really expect certain individuals (such as cooks and clerks) who have completely different aspirations/goals to be able to withhold those high standards. As well, the nature of their job would lend itself to making it very difficult to maintaining peak physical condition.
A cook does not need to be able to deadlift 3 plates, nor does a musician need to be able to do the clean and jerk.

Misinformation would also be a huge problem. You go to the gym and everyone is doing curls with 5 pounds on a bosu ball. Not many individuals would have the drive or the knowledge to properly train themselves. For some, it would take ages with proper diet + training to reach the standards the staff of starting strength would find adequate. The risk of injury is also present. Improper form on a dead lift is painful. Been there done that.

If combat arms were to have a different PT test than all the other trades, then that would make sense.
If it's a general test for all members of the CF, then I believe it to be unrealistic.


 
I think this is a very interesting topic as my livelihood is conducting the fitness evaluations for the CF.  Both the guys in the video and BDave present excellent points. Although the video is referring to US military fitness evaluations, it still holds true when we consider the EXPRES. 

If you look at most military occupations, being able to run 20 meters back and forth, squeeze a handgrip, rep out 7-19 push-ups, and reps out 12-19 sit-ups does reflect specific job requirements.

The PT tests elements that the staff in the video mention would definitely be good for Combat Arms soldiers.  (They actually justified with their comments the value of the BFT for army personnel) However, the mentioned tests in the video may not be that relevant for Naval personnel or many Air Force jobs.  As BDave said, they also don't reflect some army jobs like cook or clerk.  That does not matter because the DAOD 5023-0 Universality of Service state that all soldiers regardless of trades are soldiers first and must meet the minimum operational standards for basic soldiering skills.

For this reason the CF conducted a massive study to determine physical tasks that are common or could potentially be common to all serving military personnel.  The result of that study lead to the development of the Common Military Task Fitness Evaluation (or 5 Common Tasks). (For specific details on it: http://canadianmilitaryandefence.blogspot.com/2010/09/common-military-task-fitness-evaluation.html) This test involves a sea evacuation, land evacuation, sandbag carry, trench dig, and high-low crawl.  This test currently reflects the Minimum Physical Fitness Standard (MPFS) for all CF members.

As everyone is aware, members do not conduct the 5 Common Task test each year.  So your thinking why aren't soldiers tested in it if it is relevant?  Well the equipment required for the test is expensive, cumbersome, and requires a lot of space to store and use during a test.  For that reason it is only available at a select few bases.  Also, the evaluation process takes a very long time to do.  If you go to the above link, you will notice that the test is 4 day process.

Since physical fitness is a BONA FIDE OCCUPATIONAL REQUIREMENT (A legal term meaning human life is potentially at risk for these requirements aren't met) of all soldiers, they needed to find a more feasible testing protocol.  The researchers involved in the 5 common tasks test decided to test people in it as well as test them with the EXPRES Protocols.  After comparing results they found that there was a strong correlation between the EXPRES results and the 5 common task results with individual members.  So it was determined that the EXPRES Test is a good indicator of ones ability to conduct the 5 common tasks, and therefore, the EXPRES is the CF standard because it is economical and better suited for testing larger numbers.

CF members are able to conduct the 5 common task test, only after 2 consecutive failures on the EXPRES, as long a the obtain CO approval.

I hope this gives people some insight on the testing process.
 
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