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Personalizing your gear.....

  • Thread starter Thread starter gorf
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Well Ladies and gentleman, here it is.

While all and all,standerdization is neccessary to a point.  In canada, we must be allowed to provide out own kit, because no one else will do it.  Why should i be punished for having a Camel back, when my fireteam partner doesn't, fact is i shouldn't.  But neither should he, he should be given one too.

Now when must the C9 gunner carry the same load out as a c7 gunner or vise versa, for one simple reason.  He is, like the medic, or radio man, only the c9gunner while he is alive.  if he goes down, the next guuy better pick up that gun, and be ready to use it.  Having a similar load out gives us the ability to function similarly.  If i have gear the prevents me from carrying a radio, well tahts bunk when the radio man biteds it, and i got to carry it.

Lastly, what you see, should in fact as a general rule, be adhered to, why???  Cause we are in the same army, and must be identified that way, but if I am carrying a rucksack, the camel back i carry underneath it should be of no ones concern, and in the field, this philosiphy shoudl really go to Sh*t anyway, cause if the enemy sees me, he isn;t going to be thinking about why i haver gucci kit and the rest of the guys don't, he is gonna be busy killing me.

On the parade square, yes, everything the same, but in the field, it should be an all out brawl to stay alive, with the acception of pattern and base uniform.  ALl our gear should be cadpat, and therfore easily identifiable as friendly.  And i dont think anyone would disagree with wearing the canadian uniform, dont also want to be mistaken as Foe, you wanna were the iraqi uniform, you go for it.

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canadian_pride said:
Now when must the C9 gunner carry the same load out as a c7 gunner or vise versa, for one simple reason.   He is, like the medic, or radio man, only the c9gunner while he is alive.   if he goes down, the next guuy better pick up that gun, and be ready to use it.   Having a similar load out gives us the ability to function similarly.   If i have gear the prevents me from carrying a radio, well tahts bunk when the radio man biteds it, and i got to carry it.

I hope I am misreading this post, or are you saying that a C7 gunner should carry the same gear as a C9 gunner?  I think having to delink all that ammo would slow their rate of fire.  Should the C9 gunner carry 40mm just in case? The medic should ditch their bag just incase they have to pick up a radio?
Hopefully I missed the point when trying to decipher your post.
 
I think he means a riflemen should still have the capability of carrying the c9 should the gunner die, i.e. have pouches that can carry the boxes of ammo.
 
Yep, the best setup would be a modular vest using the MOLLE/PALS attachment system, therefore anyone can perform any role to the best of their ability by switching up the pouches on the vest.

Infanteer Rifleman, put on more magazine pouches and grenade pouches, as well as pouches for extra mission specific gear (bangs, pyro etc).

Infanteer C9 gunner, switch out his rifle magazines pouches to hold his boxes

Infanteer Grenadier, add grenade pouches to the vest

Medic, put some medical/utility pouches on the vest

Mechanic, tool pouches/utility pouches, etc etc etc
 
Just gonna say that I'm surprised that this hasn't been figured out through trial and error...from what works in the field madin into a Standardized way of doing something. But, someone is always trying to reinvent the wheel of what is standard. Then comes the almighty Revision, upon revision,  upon revision.  Standards are usually written out like law or how something is practiced. I do agree though, with a standardized placement of Maps, ammo, necessities and such.  To put things in perspective, if you were in the field and something happened and you needed to get something out of your buddy's pouch, pocket, pack...whatever....wouldn't it be easier to find it if he packed his the same way you packed yours.  Kinda like packing a parachute in a sense. hahaha (that's an interesting thought)

But here I thought this thread was personalizing your gear. 

I got the not to draw attention to yourself, but:
 
1)  Can I etch my empl# or write it on my equipment (after I lick the marker)?
2)  What exactly can I mark and placement of the markin?
3)  Size of marking?

I think that covers it.....thank you for your time.

-Buzz
 
Britney Spears said:
Is the American style Rapid Fielding Initiative at the unit level a better system? Would it be better if all the funds for CTS were divvied out to the individual units as part of an RFI fund? THe obvious drawback would be 1) they money may not all stay in Canada, despite the fact that there are reputable kit manufacturers in Canada too.   2) The truly revolutionary stuff in CTS would be foregone. I'm not sure what these are, certainly neither the TV nor any of the ICE stuff seems to be starship trooper level stuff. Also, It would be a much more efficient way of evaluating the merits of various pieces of equimpment, instead of the 2 sgts at NDHQ (or whatever, together with the 1 major who works the ID tag cutting machine) have the last word on everything.     Not sure if this could effectively extended to weapons and optics, better just stay with the innoculous stuff for now.

Just to add further I have no idea what is being said here in this string of threats.....hahaha like wow that's out there (starship trooper?) like WTF?
Sorry,but really, I don't see how this fit here. The other information was quite helpful.

Thank you kindly,

-Buzz
 
RFI is a way that units can identify gaps in their equipment and use funds to purchase Commercial Off The Shelf itmes (COTS)  - whiel some of the COTS items might be in the system - the unit will not have been allocated any (yet).

This system woudl allow units to purchase equiptment based upon their perceived needs - something that I think the CF needs.  As LI-SOC units have a much different role than Mech Inf.
 
I gotcha.... it puts ease in precurment for equipment for a specific unit.   But then shouldn't this all be figured out after years and years of practice and knowing what you need and what you don't need.   It's not like you started an army yesterday, you know what I mean.   No offence of course I'm just saying having a standardized material lists for a unit would probably make things easier for certain MOC's...I don't know to tell you the truth if there is one or not I've stated before i'm a civvy, at the moment,   and I know I would have one. LOL   Even at the grunt or a couple steps above grunt level based on what my occupation was. Also, the equipment was in the exact same spot as everyone elses.   Because say you needed another tool and my partner would be busy and to free up time from stopping him from I could ask him and knew where to grab without even looking, if he wasn't using it of course.   But if he was well it wouldn't stop me from doing my job just be a little slower. Work smart, not hard......;)

Equipment and tools and whatever was charged to the employee # based off of wonderful computer systems without question.   Unless it was something out of the ordinary.  



-Buzz
 
Gorf said:
Cool....I guess I'll just "go with the flow" and do as everyone else does.   :cdn:

well there is some leaway towards rucks and what not......like I us a assualt pack when on excersise, this is for when you are on guard and you want to carry perhaps a ranger blanket or what not, but don't need to whole ruck...chest rigs and what not, just get in the way..for example your postion becomes under fire and you "hit the dirt", that is really going to hurt when you land on 6 mags, and what eles..
 
chest rigs and what not, just get in the way..for example your postion becomes under fire and you "hit the dirt", that is really going to hurt when you land on 6 mags, and what eles..

  ::) ::) ::)
 
Ditto to Farmboy.


Now wearing for PBA and plates you really think you will feel the mags?  ::)

Secondly goign to ground with webbing or the LBV is very similar - stuff is still in front of you.

Lastly - when you take fire - do you think you will feel anything with your heart doing mach chicken?


 
meh that is what I've noticed.....like I don't see the point of spelling money, like lots ($47.00 for one c9 pouch!) when the canadian military is going to supply you with the gear. other things like combat pillows and what not are more pratical
 
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