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Army_Deej
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for the step test, is it good to have to repeat it over and over?
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robbie__hogger
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"made sure that the path is clear"
where do you think you are going??? There will not be any clear path for you to run on!!! Come on now, this is the army were talking about not a jym class. Think about it
where do you think you are going??? There will not be any clear path for you to run on!!! Come on now, this is the army were talking about not a jym class. Think about it
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Robertoalan, I looked at your profile, and I noted the fact that you‘re not actually in the military, so I don‘t get the fun of calling you down as a poser.
Allow me to explain a few things (And this is for you too BDTyre, since you asked the question).
With regards to running outside in the winter, yes, somone will have made sure the path is clear. No one in charge of a PT session would be so stupid as to take their troops outside to run on ice... people would be slipping and falling and injuring themselves, and responsibility for these injuries would likely fall on whoever was running the PT session.
There are a lot of inherent dangers in military service, in garrison, in the field, or deployed... that being said, safety is always the foremost concern at all times.
Think about it, an injured troop can‘t train, can‘t fight, can‘t do their job. The military is also responsible if any permenent injuries result.
Allow me to explain a few things (And this is for you too BDTyre, since you asked the question).
With regards to running outside in the winter, yes, somone will have made sure the path is clear. No one in charge of a PT session would be so stupid as to take their troops outside to run on ice... people would be slipping and falling and injuring themselves, and responsibility for these injuries would likely fall on whoever was running the PT session.
There are a lot of inherent dangers in military service, in garrison, in the field, or deployed... that being said, safety is always the foremost concern at all times.
Think about it, an injured troop can‘t train, can‘t fight, can‘t do their job. The military is also responsible if any permenent injuries result.
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Paul F
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Why not run in the snow? You might have to one day fight in the snow, so why not train in it?
Bert
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Relating this to BMQ, its better to pick and choose your battles. Training in the snow increases the chance of injury prior to going
BMQ. No point in risking unnecessary injury.
On my BMQ course and it was in the winter, we lost three people because they aggravatted injuries received while training for BMQ as a civilian.
Its better to train smart before entering BMQ
than to "simulate" battle or military conditions
unless you really really know what you‘re doing.
Running in the snow/ice is risky. Wait for days where the ice is off the road (bare pavement) or
find an indoor track or treadmill to push the cardio.
In BMQ or in a unit, the military will outfit the
member with the proper kit for the conditions
and provide necessary familiarizations.
BMQ. No point in risking unnecessary injury.
On my BMQ course and it was in the winter, we lost three people because they aggravatted injuries received while training for BMQ as a civilian.
Its better to train smart before entering BMQ
than to "simulate" battle or military conditions
unless you really really know what you‘re doing.
Running in the snow/ice is risky. Wait for days where the ice is off the road (bare pavement) or
find an indoor track or treadmill to push the cardio.
In BMQ or in a unit, the military will outfit the
member with the proper kit for the conditions
and provide necessary familiarizations.
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Wade
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Hello everyone,
This is my first time on the forum although I have been using it for a while now. I would like to let anyone who is interested in the PT test know what I had to do:
1. Step Test...This is used to measure your VO2 Max (which is the ability of your body to transport Oxygen through your blood to your muscles). This is not something that you can push through, the instructor will monitor your pulse rate after the first 3 min, if it is good then you will go another 3 min (only faster) then your pulse will be measured again, if it is good and depending on the stage you started on you may go onto another 3 min.
**NOTE** This is what made me fail 2 times. When they calculate your VO2 Max there are many factors, two of which are: * Your Age
* Your Weight
I can‘t help my age (34) and my weight is mostly muscle (but that is irrelevant for the purpose of the test) even though muscle weighs more than fat.
I had to increase my VO2Max, endurance running didn‘t work, but interval training did. Then after passing that I did the usual:
2. Grip Test, 3. Sit Ups 4. Push Ups
On my 3rd try I finally passed......
This is my first time on the forum although I have been using it for a while now. I would like to let anyone who is interested in the PT test know what I had to do:
1. Step Test...This is used to measure your VO2 Max (which is the ability of your body to transport Oxygen through your blood to your muscles). This is not something that you can push through, the instructor will monitor your pulse rate after the first 3 min, if it is good then you will go another 3 min (only faster) then your pulse will be measured again, if it is good and depending on the stage you started on you may go onto another 3 min.
**NOTE** This is what made me fail 2 times. When they calculate your VO2 Max there are many factors, two of which are: * Your Age
* Your Weight
I can‘t help my age (34) and my weight is mostly muscle (but that is irrelevant for the purpose of the test) even though muscle weighs more than fat.
I had to increase my VO2Max, endurance running didn‘t work, but interval training did. Then after passing that I did the usual:
2. Grip Test, 3. Sit Ups 4. Push Ups
On my 3rd try I finally passed......
I keep hearing about the age and weight factor. Can someone elaborate on this in respect to the step test, please? I‘m considered rather big and heavy for my height, but I have no problem running the 2.4km in the time allowed for my age group (I‘m 33). I can also do 30 proper pushups and about the same in situps... but this talk about how weight is considered has me a bit concerned. So, can someone please explain this to me a bit more? Thank you.
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SFontaine
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The step test almost screwed me over my first time through.. My heart rate was RIGHT on the threshhold for pass/failure.
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Wade
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I will elaborate as much as I can:
Like I said before, the step test is designed to give an idication of your VO2Max. There are other factors considered, such as:
Heart rate, stage completed, resting heart rate, age, sex, weight, I may be missing some but those are the main ones I guess. I am 34 and started the step test at 33. Because of your age (33)I believe your VO2Max will have to be at least 39 when I hit 34 it went up to 41. The higher you get the better. Honestly, a 17 or 18 year old only has to touch the step and they will pass it. They start off at level 5,and go to level 6. At our age we start off at level 4 and then 5 and then 6; yes 3 levels. (More to come)
Like I said before, the step test is designed to give an idication of your VO2Max. There are other factors considered, such as:
Heart rate, stage completed, resting heart rate, age, sex, weight, I may be missing some but those are the main ones I guess. I am 34 and started the step test at 33. Because of your age (33)I believe your VO2Max will have to be at least 39 when I hit 34 it went up to 41. The higher you get the better. Honestly, a 17 or 18 year old only has to touch the step and they will pass it. They start off at level 5,and go to level 6. At our age we start off at level 4 and then 5 and then 6; yes 3 levels. (More to come)
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Wade
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After the first level (level 4) your heart rate has to be below 28 beats/10 sec, if it is under you go on to level 5, the pace is much quicker, for 3 min. At the end of that your rate has to be below 25 beats/10sec, if it is then you go to level 6, it is very quick and hard (for me anyways) at this stage you can push yourself through, there is a lot of burnning and "grunting" (in my case) but I needed level 6 to pass. The thing is you can‘t really push the first 2 levels because of your heart rate. I think that if you can make it through level 6 you will pass. I did interval training on a treadmill for 6 weeks prior to the test, it helped tremendously...
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Wade
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The funny thing with all of this is that at 33 your VO2Max is 39, at 44 it goes up to 41 and at 35 it drops to 35...stupid!!
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Haloed
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Your V02Max has very little to do with age and weight directly. Your V02Max is how efficent your body is at using oxygen, the more efficent the less oxygen your body needs which leads to better endurance.
High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) is good for increasing V02Max and burning fat and works much better than steady-state cardio.
If you don‘t exercise in one way or another, then yes, as you age your endurance, strength, power will all decrease over time. If your weight is mostly muscle then being heavier won‘t affect your V02Max. If you have a high body fat percentage then that can have an effect since you will fatigue faster due to the extra weight and your body has to work much harder.
High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) is good for increasing V02Max and burning fat and works much better than steady-state cardio.
If you don‘t exercise in one way or another, then yes, as you age your endurance, strength, power will all decrease over time. If your weight is mostly muscle then being heavier won‘t affect your V02Max. If you have a high body fat percentage then that can have an effect since you will fatigue faster due to the extra weight and your body has to work much harder.
Bert
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Haloed
In a sense your right. Scientifically, you could
take a recruit in a testing centre and measuring
various biologicals and get precise result.
During the CF fitness test in the applciation
process, they calculate the VO2 value rather
than measure. Weight is heavily factored
into the equation they use to calculate VO2.
So, you could still have good oxygen efficiency
but get dinged on the bodyweight. This somewhat
creates a quasi body weight spec too. The heavier you are, the lower the VO2 by their
calculation if all other conditions stay the same.
In a sense your right. Scientifically, you could
take a recruit in a testing centre and measuring
various biologicals and get precise result.
During the CF fitness test in the applciation
process, they calculate the VO2 value rather
than measure. Weight is heavily factored
into the equation they use to calculate VO2.
So, you could still have good oxygen efficiency
but get dinged on the bodyweight. This somewhat
creates a quasi body weight spec too. The heavier you are, the lower the VO2 by their
calculation if all other conditions stay the same.
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What did you do for interval training? Is plyometrics a good way to increase V02max?
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Wade
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I am not too sure about "plyometrics", however it is a very similar concept. I used interval training on the treadmill. The concept is to run at near Max heart rate for 2 min and then a very slow jog for 2 min and then back up to near max for 2 min and then back....for 30 min. It actually takes 40 min you have to warm up for 5 min and cool down for 5 min (MUST). Also, this is to be done every other day (REST) is key..Trust me.
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Wade
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The PT testing should not be too much of a concern for younger people (16-25) beyond that it becomes a challenge and more attention needs to be paid to training for it....
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I used to train that way before... run at max then walk or jog (done on a treadmill). You just reminded me to pick it up again. I‘m going to work on that this week at the gym.
BTW, I noticed you‘re from Ottawa and have applied to 763 CommRgt. Me too.
BTW, I noticed you‘re from Ottawa and have applied to 763 CommRgt. Me too.
