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Pipelines, energy and natural resources

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lenaitch said:
Perhaps not, but we wrote a lot of it into the Constitution and adopted the UN Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples into law, so here we are.
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Notwithstanding that, no parliament can bind future parliaments.

Having said that, everything is negotiable and it makes sense to keep people on side.

Up here in Rupert's Land we have the advantage of Sir John A. MacDonald's numbered treaties based on recognition of the 1763 proclamation.

BC is still under negotiation. But the Inuit of Nunavut have proven what is possible.
 
Kirkhill said:
Notwithstanding that, no parliament can bind future parliaments.

Having said that, everything is negotiable and it makes sense to keep people on side.

Up here in Rupert's Land we have the advantage of Sir John A. MacDonald's numbered treaties based on recognition of the 1763 proclamation.

BC is still under negotiation. But the Inuit of Nunavut have proven what is possible.
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BC is only about 200 years away from the treaty situation in eastern Canada...
 
brihard said:
... Can I recommend that this thread be expanded a bit (maybe reflected in the title) to be come a catch-all for natural resources development in Canada and associated infrastructure? I suspect we’ll have an increase in discussion on this subject and a thematic thread will probably suit it well.
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Good idea - done.

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foresterab said:
The use of salt makes me also wonder if some of the subsurface formations...some of which are full of saltwater...could be used. There are also empty formations being used as disposal wells and some of the pipelines currently in the country are used for pumping this fluid to a selected disposal well (subsurface formation).

Two benefits of this...one the re-introduction of fluid helps stabilize rock formations to reduce earthquakes. A lesson learned from the the 1970's and 1980's Colorado drilling fields. Second it may allow for a concentration of salt/water that even if heated should remain within the formation at a heated gaseous state similar to natural gas capture?

Not a geologist or driller but does make me wonder about opportunities not just here but also places like southern Ontario (former Windsor Salt mines) or a ocean water test along the ocean coasts.
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One of the other advantages of filling vacant subterranean spaces with heated fluids, as you suggest, is that the heat can be added and subtracted from the fluid while leaving it in situ. The heat exchanger is our friend.

Circulate pressurised hot fluid on one side of the plates and cold fluid to be heated on the other.
 
Czech_pivo said:
I'm looking for some clarity here.

Was the expectation that the identification of 'fast tracked' projects by the Feds (with the Provs and Indigenous partners) was that the Fed's would be making the purely business decision as to what was going to be built and where and what route it would take, or, was the aim of 'fast tracked' identification to select already defined projects that were stuck in the molasses of gov't bureaucracy and push them across the finish line ASAP?

Are there any open, business initiated, oil pipeline proposals in the works right now, beyond some back of the napkin stuff?
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A ULCC tanker conducting a Williamson turn or the federal Liberal caucus.

Which will answer the helm and reverse course first?
 
Kirkhill said:
A ULCC tanker conducting a Williamson turn or the federal Liberal caucus.

Which will answer the helm and reverse course first?
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Not sure that I understand, but I'm willing to follow you over the hill and see what's on the other side.
 
One of the things PM MC talks about many times is "carbon capture" technology. The concept of using machine scrubbers to remove CO2 from the air and liquify it. It can be used for different things. I am not sure how efficient it is.

In that context, I recently learned about the dangerous situation of Satartia, Mississippi a few years ago. A liquid CO2 pipeline burst.



So, I hope people are factoring that in before they got all "climate swooned" and decide we must rush these CO2 scrubbers/capture machines into production.

And for those that forget, ALL plants sequester CO2 for food. and when a tree tips over, it does not release deadly gas into the air. And yes, I get it, oil pipelines can burst too however we already know oil and gas is a highly efficient and much greater return on investment in terms of using it.

I also personally feel that CO2 has an extremely low impact on climate (if any at all).
 
Oh hell yeah.... giddyup y'all

Ottawa is counting on copper to be a nation builder — and Canada has to play catch-up​

One of world's most important metals faces supply challenges amid high demand​


Canada is home to copper mines, refineries and a smelter. But the country has fallen behind on producing and exporting copper over the last decade, and even the accelerated projects might be too little too late, according to experts who spoke with CBC News.

 
daftandbarmy said:
Oh hell yeah.... giddyup y'all

Ottawa is counting on copper to be a nation builder — and Canada has to play catch-up​

One of world's most important metals faces supply challenges amid high demand​


Canada is home to copper mines, refineries and a smelter. But the country has fallen behind on producing and exporting copper over the last decade, and even the accelerated projects might be too little too late, according to experts who spoke with CBC News.

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When are they re-opening Brittania? 😄
 
Chew on this.

What if Carney decides to take a page from the Norwegian Sovereign Fund and has Canada become the owner of any new oil pipelines and LNG facilities in Canada and uses that wealth in the same manner that Norway does?

Wouldn’t that be a game changer?
 
Czech_pivo said:
Chew on this.

What if Carney decides to take a page from the Norwegian Sovereign Fund and has Canada become the owner of any new oil pipelines and LNG facilities in Canada and uses that wealth in the same manner that Norway does?

Wouldn’t that be a game changer?
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We would be like a teenager with unfettered access to their bank account, rarely ends well. Our governments are not mature enough to avoid spending large sums of money lying around.
 
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