Pipelines, energy and natural resources

[foresterab]

Your post made me try to find a map of the areas covered under Treaty. While I'm familiar with Treaty 8, 7 and 6 and was aware of the Nisinga Treaty trying to find a map of all of them together is a challange.

This is the best one I found so far:

Map - Yellowhead Institute Treaty Map

The Treaty Map The Yellowhead Treaty Map is an accessible introduction to Indigenous perspectives on treaties in Canada. It describes the context, negotiation process and terms of treaties – as well as the implications of failing to honor them. Check out the About page to learn more about each...

treatymap.yellowheadinstitute.org

There is also sigificant work going on in BC with many other communities:

BC Region | Understanding Our Treaties

Explore the BC region on your journey to learn about treaties in Canada. An initiative of The Gordon Foundation.

understandingtreaties.ca

End of the day when I look from Treaty 8 in NE BC towards the Nisinga Treaty lands in NW BC....it's a relatively small gap of divided opinions and a much small group of bands than the rest of the province. And that's where the duty to consult and if required, compensate for impacts, rests.

One error in my past post. The duty to consult still applies under treaty lands but is more formalized processes and points of contact.

 

[Kirkhill]

https://www.euractiv.com/news/is-europes-biggest-economy-turning-against-carbon-pricing/

Germany moving to eliminating carbon pricing, emissions trading and emissions caps.
One of Alberta's principle oblections and one of the nine bad laws stifling development.

 

[daftandbarmy]

https://www.euractiv.com/news/is-europes-biggest-economy-turning-against-carbon-pricing/

Germany moving to eliminating carbon pricing, emissions trading and emissions caps.
One of Alberta's principle oblections and one of the nine bad laws stifling development.

 

[daftandbarmy]

The spat continues....

B.C. Premier Eby says lifting the tanker ban would sink billions in 'real' projects​

SURREY — Lifting the oil tanker ban off British Columbia's North Coast for a nonexistent pipeline from Alberta would endanger billions in other real investments that Premier David Eby says will need the support of coastal First Nations.

"This is a pretty straightforward issue for British Columbia," Eby said. "The oil tanker ban off the coast is the social licence with First Nations along the coast to be able to do significant economic development in the region," he said on Tuesday at an unrelated news conference.

Eby said he's asking the federal government to reaffirm its support for the tanker ban off the West Coast, after Prime Minister Mark Carney said on Friday that lifting the ban would depend on a number of factors.

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has been calling for the repeal of the tanker ban as part of her government's proposal to build an oil pipeline to the coast in a pitch it plans to make to the Major Projects Office by next spring.

But Eby said scrapping the ban would jeopardize approval from coastal First Nations for mines and energy and other projects that represent up to $60 billion in capital investments.

https://www.biv.com/news/bc-premier-eby-says-lifting-the-tanker-ban-would-sink-billions-in-real-projects-11346426

 

[daftandbarmy]

Step 1: Kill the forest industry in your own province using classic socialist anti-business policies

Step 2: Complain to the federal government that Canada is ignoring you

This is the Canadian way

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/david-eby-forestry-industry-trump-tariffs-9.6938080

 

[Kirkhill]

Foreign buyers flock to US shale gas

The Trump administration has lifted a moratorium on new LNG projects and approved licences for new export terminals

www.ft.com

Even nearly-free natural gas can’t help customers: Attracting investment means solving Alberta’s gas delivery problem and Canada’s suffocating tax problem | BOE Report

Ok, someone’s gotta say it. A few things need fixing if Canada is to begin attracting significant investment again. Here’s one no one likes to talk about. Something is severely broken in the intra-Alberta gas market. Natural gas producing companies are being driven into bankruptcy due to...

boereport.com

Foreign buyers can't buy gas fast enough.
Alberta producers can't give it away for free.

 

[Kirkhill]

OPEC Chief: The World Needs $18.2 Trillion in Oil and Gas Investment | OilPrice.com

OPEC Secretary General Haitham Al Ghais states that significant investment in oil and gas is crucial as these resources will remain a large part of the global energy mix through 2050.

oilprice.com

Out of the way!

 

[Brad Sallows]

The spat continues....

B.C. Premier Eby says lifting the tanker ban would sink billions in 'real' projects​

"This is a pretty straightforward issue for British Columbia," Eby said. "The oil tanker ban off the coast is the social licence with First Nations along the coast to be able to do significant economic development in the region," he said on Tuesday at an unrelated news conference.

If that's actually true, it's past time to push through unreasonable obstructionism. "Nothing more after we get enough for ourselves" is no principle on which to pursue economic development.

 

[Kirkhill]

IEA - more oil

The IEA Decline Rate Report Is Being Misinterpreted By Many

Higher decline rates in the shale basins doesn't necessarily mean a production peak or price spike.

www.forbes.com

 

[Rifleman62]

But Eby said scrapping the ban would jeopardize approval from coastal First Nations for mines and energy and other projects that represent up to $60 billion in capital investments.

Name the projects with details as to investors, start dates, all the relevant (enviro/all gov'ts/ FN/etc) approvals.

Eby is all BS. A whinner. Stated if Alberta gets a pipeline he wants $50 Billion.

“If Alberta gets a $50 billion publicly funded pipeline, then I want a $50 billion federal guarantee for projects as well, and i want $50 billion for every province against Canada. and every territory because their projects are just as damn important as Alberta’s project is.”

 

[daftandbarmy]

FWIW, from earlier this year...

Threats to B.C. LNG industry are a made-in-Canada problem​

U.S. President Donald Trump’s executive order to advance an Alaska LNG project will create competition for B.C., though it’s not the sector’s biggest challenge

Ian Archer, an expert in the North American natural gas market for S&P Global, doesn’t think the Alaskan LNG project Trump is now pushing poses the biggest competitive risk to B.C. LNG projects. The risks, he says, are home-grown.

“Canadian regulatory and environmental complexities are greater than nearly every other LNG producing region, and they have been the main reasons for the slow pace of LNG development in Canada,” Archer said. “So yes, the threats to LNG development are almost entirely a made-in-Canada problem.”

https://www.biv.com/news/resources-agriculture/threats-to-bc-lng-industry-are-a-made-in-canada-problem-10427834

 

[Kirkhill]

And talking about gas... everybody seems to want it.

The LNG Boom That’s Pricing Out American Consumers | OilPrice.com

Higher prices for U.S. natural gas seem to be inevitable as the main shale gas basins experience the same trends as oil basins.

oilprice.com

And oil. Even if we don't sell directly to China they will soak up a lot of oil (and bitumen) destined for Japan, S Korea, Indonesia, India and Europe.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-16/china-s-appetite-for-canadian-oil-is-headed-for-all-time-high

 

[Kirkhill]

And what to do about EVs

Carney faces pressure from all sides on EV mandate as sales plummet

EV industry is calling on Ottawa to stay the course, but carmakers want the sales requirements scrapped

ca.finance.yahoo.com

 

[Czech_pivo]

And what to do about EVs

Carney faces pressure from all sides on EV mandate as sales plummet

EV industry is calling on Ottawa to stay the course, but carmakers want the sales requirements scrapped

ca.finance.yahoo.com

No way we have a separate EV mandate that varies more than 5-7% from the US’s without risking further manufacturing losses in the auto sector.

 

[Kirkhill]

McKinsey, you get what you pay for...
On the other hand, presumably some one paid for this.

Fossil fuels to dominate global energy use past 2050, McKinsey says | BOE Report

Oil, gas and coal will continue to dominate the world’s energy mix well beyond 2050, as soaring electricity demand outpaces the shift to renewables, according to a new McKinsey report. WHY IT'S IMPORTANT Continued use of fossil fuels poses a major challenge to achieving global net-zero climate...

boereport.com

 

[Kirkhill]

One way to soak up unwanted gas.

Alberta doubling down on AI data centres with new mandate for utilities minister

Nathan Neudorf tells The Globe that data centres will be a big part of the province’s economy

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Kirkhill]

And the alternative to gas...

US Army betting on 20MW "portable" reactors = 5 wind-turbines or 4 gas fired package boilers conventionally used to power small factories.

Taking a chunk out of the mega project nuclear market.

Nuclear Stocks Sell Off After U.S. Army Launches Microreactor Program | OilPrice.com

Analysts warn the nuclear sector may be overheating, as investor enthusiasm has driven up valuations of early-stage firms like Oklo and NuScale with little or no revenue

oilprice.com

 

[daftandbarmy]

Death by BC red tape...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1979017479205577042

 

[Kirkhill]

Another US Army development that may impact this discussion.

Hydrogen fuel cells. And water extraction from air - enough to cool all those AI servers

https://www.erdc.usace.army.mil/Med...brates-armys-first-hydrogen-powered-nanogrid/

AirJoule® - Transformational Cooling & Water Technology

Harnessing the energy and water from the Earth’s atmosphere as a renewable resource with cost-effective water access and sustainability

airjouletech.com

Hydrogen, blue-green-white or gray, is likely to be a key part of Alberta's future. But I don't like the idea of long distance transport of gases. It strkes me as expensive. Fixing them to some sort of substrate like coal, oil or these new Metal Organic Frameworks seems like a better option for secure transport.

 

[foresterab]

Death by BC red tape...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1979017479205577042

Also missed the Blueberry decision in NE BC affecting Treaty 8 lands.

And then the ass kicking of fires in the north. Areas I used to work in have lost so much timber...and frankly it's the lower cost timber used to offset the remaining expensive long haul deliveries...that its no surprise many mills have shut down.

If your average haul cycle for a truck load of wood is 7 hours (3.5 hours each way + half hour to load + half hour to unload) that's roughly $28/m3 hauled. More than your logging costs. Plus stumpage. Plus increased road maintenaince costs (not included). Plus reforestation...

Vs. US mills in the SE states where it's a 30 min drive to many mills, direct payment to landowner, no reforestation liability. And your end market is hours away from the mill instead of days of driving.

Reality is that market economics make only producing 2x4's and only clear cutting further and further from mills a long term loosing proposition. Concepts like commercial thinning on prime lands closer to mills don't really exist here in Canada (as clear cuts are easier to plan and lower cost) but I believe are part of the solution better utilize the lands closer to the mills and generate more volume at lower haul costs (note this is much more expensive logging short term). Long term this provides a higher quality sawlog (as the thinning removed poor form/smaller trees), reduces some of fuel loading in natural stands (due to removing the natural mortality stems that build up inside a forest), and provides a better overall recovery of the forest. It's due to concepts like this Scandinavia is growing 2-3x the same volume per hectare than we do in Canada.

To be fair to the BC government though some of those policies have also been beneficial and cleaned up what used to be huge red tape confusion. Some of the wood pellet industry now is fed through slash piles that used to be unavailable due to red tape/liability confusion and it's now about 4% of the BC harvested volume recovered...to put that in perspective it's also about the same volume as 2 medium sized sawmills consume or a very large super mill.

But other policies and the confusion they raised...ouch. And I'm not really sure what the solutions are as there are so many different rules for the province vs. interior vs. coastal. And then all the regional rules that a person needs to know ranging from species at risk to salmon drainages. And then local zoning/weight issues on infrastructure. A messy problem that needs many changes not just one silver bullet.