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Political impacts of Ukraine war

Kirkhill said:
6:45PM

Zelensky leaves White House early​

Volodymyr Zelensky has left the White House early after a war of words broke out with Donald Trump and JD Vance.

The leaders were due to hold a joint press conference after bilateral talks over a rare mineral deal, but that media op has now been cancelled.

As the Ukrainian leader departed, he shouted towards cameras on the White House lawn, but his worlds could not immediately be made out.

6:58PM

Polish PM expresses solidarity with Ukraine​


https://twitter.com/x/status/1895546144748614041
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According to CNN, Zelenskyy was ordered out of the White House and told to leave the country immediately.
 
With this map in mind: What would it take to work around The US, Russia, China and India? If we are dreaming.

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RangerRay said:
Oh my god. We are definitely living above a meth lab.
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Well, I strongly recommend not lighting a match.

Fortunately Trump himself has started us in the right direction. Good fences make good neighbours.
 
7:29PM

Ukrainian politicians back up Zelensky​

Ukraine’s prime minister and parliament speaker expressed support for President Volodymyr Zelensky after his clash with Donald Trump.

“President @ZelenskyyUa is right. Peace without guarantees is not possible,” PM Denys Shmyhal said on X.

Ruslan Stefanchuk, the speaker, added: “NO ONE has the right to forget that in this war Russia is the aggressor and Ukraine is the victim of aggression”.
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RangerRay said:
He’s stocking up on ammo and non-perishable food.
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patrick swayze 80s GIF
 
When you go to the WH as an approximate supplicant, wear a suit and hold your own temper in check no matter what happens.

In the choice between pig-wrestling with a notoriously volatile and obnoxious person or taking the high road, so many people keep choosing the former.
 
Brad Sallows said:
When you go to the WH as an approximate supplicant, wear a suit and hold your own temper in check no matter what happens.
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Musk set the tone wit no suits in the White House.

Zelensky clearly didn’t see himself as a supplicant.

Vance started the temper tantrum to a very reasonable question brought on by him. He should have kept quiet.
Brad Sallows said:
In the choice between pig-wrestling with a notoriously volatile and obnoxious person or taking the high road, so many people keep choosing the former.
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High road means nothing these days.
 
Remius said:
Musk set the tone wit no suits in the White House.
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Musk isn't a foreign visitor.
Remius said:
Zelensky clearly didn’t see himself as a supplicant.
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Not a very effective leader if he can't see when his ego ought be set aside, and do so.
Remius said:
Vance started the temper tantrum to a very reasonable question brought on by him. He should have kept quiet.
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It doesn't matter who started it, and my advice implicitly assumes that Trump and his people are likely to be the first to breach civility.
Remius said:
High road means nothing these days.
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It means everything. How many years of witnessing Trump's behaviour is necessary for the people who think of themselves as "adults" to grasp the lesson and behave as that which they claim.
 
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