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Political impacts of Ukraine war

Drawn up by a traitorous weasel, who seems to be more in line with Russia than American foreign policy.

At the end of the day, Congress, not POTUS or Witkoff the whack off controls who we support.
Polands president already expressed his opposition to the plan, because one of the points is about Poalnd and he was not consulted.
 
i 100% think this was deliberate so the trump admin can wipe their hands of the war.
Its a distraction piece on this part right now.

Smoke and mirrors.

Epstein folders/emails/circus is all the rage. He needs to turn the US public's eye away from this and over to Ukraine. The near-sighted masses will duly follow along and the shrills will loudly beat their drums to drown out those daring to say otherwise.

Like I said earlier, I'd enjoy watching a scenario play out across the world where the US unilaterally lifts the sanctions against RUsSiA and the rest of the west (except for their lackey Hungary), including Japan, South Korea and Australia, staunchly keep all the sanctions in place. Couple that with a few late night double Big Mac's and super-sized fries......
 
The biggest surrender documents ever written.

I like how it gives Russia the final say on any additional NATO expansion.

This is probably worse than Munich 1938.
There's are two major differences between this and Munich. One Chamberlain was actually a masterful politician and Historians are beginning to view the agreement as an attempt to buy time in order to rearm
This is nothing less then a surrender document.
The Trump administration has effectively cut the legs out from under the Ukrainian Government's position.
 
There's are two major differences between this and Munich. One Chamberlain was actually a masterful politician and Historians are beginning to view the agreement as an attempt to buy time in order to rearm
This is nothing less then a surrender document.
The Trump administration has effectively cut the legs out from under the Ukrainian Government's position.
100% paints them into a corner.
If this goes through odds of Poland getting their own nucs in less than 10yrs is a given.
 
There's are two major differences between this and Munich. One Chamberlain was actually a masterful politician and Historians are beginning to view the agreement as an attempt to buy time in order to rearm
This is nothing less then a surrender document.
The Trump administration has effectively cut the legs out from under the Ukrainian Government's position.
As a follow up, the odds of the Ukrainians doing something completely outlandish against the Russians has dramatically gone up as well.
 
It is bizarre since Trump this week had asked Congress for more sanctions against Russia.

Quite frankly it would appear that some in my current administration are on the Russian payroll.

Some people were sceptical about these sanctions.


Sanctions, Sanctions, Sanctions?

Well, this was a week in which the Trump administration announced “sanctions” on two Russian oil companies. I wrote two pieces on these to try and explain what they do, and what they do not do. Crucially, they contain no automatic secondary sanctions at all (the kinds that matter). These are sanctions that would apply to Chinese and Indian companies, for instance, which do business with Russia over oil. The secondary sanctions are the key ones, as has been clear for a while, because to really damage the Russian economy, you need to stop people from doing business with it. Here are the two pieces. There is no reason to simply restate them again.
Of course what did not get the attention that it deserved was that this week also saw the Trump administration maneuver to, once again, block progress on the sanctions bill that could really damage Russia. I’m talking about the sanctions in the proposed Graham-Blumenthal act. This bill, co sponsored by Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal, empowers the president to use crippling secondary sanctions of the type that the sanctions announced this week lack. Indeed the Graham-Blumenthal bill would be a massive blow to Russia’s economy, because the secondary sanctions would be so strong (up to 100% in some instances) that it would end many of the economic relationships that are keeping Russia afloat. The crucial role of the secondary sanctions was stressed by Blumenthal and Graham jointly when the bill was announced in April.

“However, the ultimate hammer to bring about the end of this war will be tariffs against countries, like China, India and Brazil, that prop up Putin’s war machine by purchasing cheap Russian oil and gas. President Trump’s decision to announce the implementation of 100 percent secondary tariffs on countries that buy Russian oil and gas if a peace agreement is not reached in the next 50 days is a real executive hammer to drive the parties to the negotiating table. The goal is not more tariffs and sanctions – the goal is to entice Putin to come to the peace table.

In other words, had Trump really been interested in using oil sanctions against secondary parties to hurt Russia, he has and has had a ready made bill at his disposal, and has for six months. Remarkably and sadly, however, this bill has gone nowhere even though it is now being cosponsored by almost 90 Senators. It could pass the Senate in a heartbeat without any effort, and yet it never gets a vote.

And it never gets a vote because Trump, as he did again this week, always blocks a vote in the end. Ten days ago, the leader of Senate Republicans, Senator John Thune, publicly stated that it was time to give Graham-Blumenthal a vote. According to Thune, Graham has been in regular touch with the White House and now the details had been worked out on a vote. Thune’s words were: “It’s ready. … I think it’s time to move,”

Well, turned out a few days later it was not ready and there would be no upcoming move. As soon as Trump’s weak sanctions were announced, Graham-Blumenthal was once again shelved for the foreseeable future. According to Thune this week, the bill is now on “pause” again, and now he has no idea when or even if the bill will ever have a vote.

It was a fascinating and exact repeat of exactly what happened in July. Then Thune and Trump both spoke of supporting Graham-Blumenthal and bringing it up for a vote. On July 9, the New York Times, published this story in which Thune discussed a vote that month and Trump said he was strongly considering supporting the bill. Here is the article’s start.

The top Senate Republican said on Wednesday that a vote could come as soon as this month on bipartisan legislation that would impose severe sanctions on countries that continue purchasing Russian oil, ratcheting up pressure on President Vladimir V. Putin as he escalates his war against Ukraine.

Momentum has been building on Capitol Hill behind the measure, which is cosponsored by Senators Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, and Richard Blumenthal, Democrat of Connecticut, and has 83 supporters from both parties. Mr. Trump’s statement on Tuesday that he was “very strongly” considering supporting it signaled that a deal could be near to move it through Congress.


Of course, in the end in July there was no vote, Trump was not actually supportive of Graham-Blumenthal and the bill went nowhere.

Twice now the Trump administration has used Republicans in the Senate to make it seem that they will support real sanctions against Russia, before pulling the rug out on the plan each time.

So yes, until secondary sanctions are actually introduced and enforced on the broad number of Chinese, Indian, Turkish and Brazilian companies that do business with Russia, I will continue to stress that what Trump is actually doing is protecting Russia.

Why is he so afraid of Graham-Blumenthal?


Sanctions Bluster Unravelling

Trump’s new “sanctions” on Russia’s oil trade are now more than 3 weeks old. Already people who were loudly telling us how important they would be and how indicative they were that Trump wanted to hammer Russia, are now shuffling their feet and discussing other issues. And that is because, in a fundamental way, nothing is happening.

The oil markets have looked at the prospect of Russian oil being shut out of the market and called BS on that. The small bump on Brent crude prices on 20 October, when the sanctions were announced, has stopped and subsided.

Market performance chart

Both the Indians and Chinese seem to have bought as much if not more oil at the end of October as they were buying previously. And yesterday, Trump himself showed how toothless he really is. When Viktor Orban came to the White House and asked for full sanctions relief—it was granted happily by Trump. And Hungary, in case you did not know, is by far the largest purchaser of Russian energy (to be followed by Slovakia,(who we can also assume will soon be protected by Trump).



Here is the CNN story on what unfolded.

But when Orbán – whose country buys more Russian oil and gas than any other EU nation – showed up at the White House on Friday, Trump was full of praise for the “great leader” of a “great country,” claiming it has been “difficult” for Hungary to wean itself off Russian fossil fuels, since it is landlocked.

We have 13 more days to wait to see if Trump puts harsh secondary sanctions on Chinese and Indian oil companies. Hmmmm.

Basically it was all bluster to protect Russia and stall real sanctions.
 
1) Trump doesn’t give a toss about Ukraine
2) Trump is sucking up to Putin and Russia
3) Trump is still angling to “end” the war, no matter in how cowardly or despicable way it comes about, for another shot at the Nobel Peace Prize.
 
Still strong bipartisan support for aiding Ukraine, even in deep red states.

The inner circle of this admin may be blind and deaf (willfully or not), but there are still parts of the GOP with working eyes and ears.


Also weirdly Russia itself is pushing back against this dung heap that greatly benefits them. So if Ukraine doesn't accept by Thursday and Russia doesn't accept it, does Trump still pull the rug?
 
FYI

In WW2 America started with a vociferous "enemy" support group within their borders.


They survived that and successfully managed to prosecute a war against their heroes.

Difference being, the Bund didn’t have sympathizers inside FDR’s administration putting their thumb on the scale. If anything, the administration was doing everything short of engaging in combat up until Dec 7 1941 to support the Allies.
 
A plan to keep the war going and make some people rich.


The plan was negotiated by Steve Witkoff, a real-estate developer with no historical, geographical, or cultural knowledge of Russia or Ukraine, and Kirill Dmitriev, who heads Russia’s sovereign-wealth fund and spends most of his time making business deals. The revelation of their plan this week shocked European leaders, who are now paying almost all of the military costs of the war, as well as the Ukrainians, who were not sure whether to take this latest plan seriously until they were told to agree to it by Thanksgiving or lose all further U.S. support. Even if the plan falls apart, this arrogant and confusing ultimatum, coming only days after the State Department authorized the sale of anti-missile technology to Ukraine, will do permanent damage to America’s reputation as a reliable ally, not only in Europe but around the world.
The central points of the planreflect long-standing Russian demands. The United States would recognize Russian rule over Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk—all of which are part of Ukraine. Russia would, in practice, be allowed to keep territory it has conquered in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson. In all of these occupation zones, Russian forces have carried out arrests, torture, and mass repression of Ukrainian citizens, and because Russia would not be held accountable for war crimes, they could continue to do so with impunity. Ukraine would withdraw from the part of Donetsk that it still controls—a heavily reinforced and mined territory whose loss would open up central Ukraine to a future attack.

Not only would this plan cede territory, people, and assets to Russia; it also seems deliberately designed to weaken Ukraine, politically and militarily, so that Russia would find it easier to invade again a year from now, or 10 years from now. According to a version of the text that appeared in the Financial Times yesterday, the plan does state that “Ukraine’s sovereignty would be confirmed.” But it then imposes severe restrictions on Ukrainian sovereignty: Ukraine must “enshrine in its constitution” a promise to never join NATO. Ukraine must shrink the size of its armed forces to 600,000, down from 900,000. Ukraine may not host foreign troops on its soil. Ukraine must hold new elections within 100 days, a demand not made of Russia, a dictatorship that has not held free elections for more than two decades.

In return, the plan states that Ukraine “would receive security guarantees.” But it does not describe what those guarantees would be, and there is no reason to believe that President Donald Trump would ever abide by them. Russia would also “enshrine in law its policy of non-aggression towards Europe and Ukraine,” a bizarre and meaningless statement, given that Russia currently has a policy of permanent aggression not only toward Ukraine but also toward Europe and has, anyway, repeatedly violated promises before. The United States would lift sanctions on Russia, losing any existing leverage over President Vladimir Putin; invite Russia to rejoin the G8; and reintegrate Russia into the world economy. Awkward wording, evident throughout the document, suggests that at least some of it was originally written in Russian.


Why is the Trump White House pushing Ukraine to accept a Russian plan that paves the way for another war? The document offers some hints, declaring that the U.S. would also somehow take charge of the $100 billion in frozen Russian assets, for example, supposedly to invest this money in Ukraine and receive “50% of the profits from this venture.” Europeans, whose banks actually hold most of these assets, would receive nothing. European taxpayers, who currently provide almost all of the military and humanitarian support to Ukraine, are nevertheless expected to contribute $100 billion to Ukraine’s reconstruction.


Meanwhile, the United States and Russia would “enter into a long-term economic cooperation agreement for mutual development in the areas of energy, natural resources, infrastructure, artificial intelligence, data centers, rare earth metal extraction projects in the Arctic, and other mutually beneficial corporate opportunities,” according to the plan. This is no surprise: Putin has spoken of “several companies” positioning themselves to resume business ties between his country and the United States.

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