When I did my online application it asked me to choose the nearest recruitment center to my location well I only had one option and it had Calgary in the title I thought that was weird but I went with it now when I call the 1 800 number to book an appointment the answering service says recruiting center prairies and north "calgary" detachment I live in Edmonton however 6 hours away. Is this just the main recruiting hub for the area or did I screw my self and have to travel to Calgary for appointments and such? Unfortunately they are closed for the evening so I thought id ask you fine folks if you have any insight I apologize if I didn't provide proper info can't access the application I sent to check
Possibility screwed my self
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dInuym said:
You have the right number and appear to be getting through to the office in Edmonton, seeing as Edmonton is a "Detachment of Calgary".
Good luck in getting someone to answer let alone return any of your messages, if in fact you can leave a message.
Just keep trying and trying and trying........
DAA said:
HA HA thanks DAA I thought that may be the case I was looking for the detachment name online I've heard the issue of getting a hold of recruiters I tried 2 years ago for reserves and it was phone tag I never did talk to any one other than the infirmary (forces website had the wrong number) i just stopped trying after a while and here I am
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I submitted my application in January. I got my email the next week. I tried to call the file manager there, and no answer.....for a whole month. I called at least 6 times a day, and would eventually recite the voicemail message to myself. I finally got someone on the line March 1st, and wrote my cfat March 5th. I hope I'm not going to go through that again when I book my Medical, and Interview.
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it's ok.... i got screwed too... :
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GAP said:Poor puppys....they actually had to wait......really?......all this angst over waiting?
Lord love a duck..... :
Scott said:
I in no way believe the CAF owes me anything in any way shape or form. I also believe that patience is important. That being said I do not believe keeping tabs on the application or believing that something is taking a long time shows you are full of angst.
If I had not kept in contact I would not have known I required an FBI background check for my time in the US for college (which I was actually informed of too late for my application to be properly processed). The same can be said when I reapplied: had I not kept in touch I would have gone without knowing they had lost the FBI check (copy) I gave them on three separate occasions. (The one from the previous application and two new copies for the second one.) Again later for the same application that they told my they submitted a key paper after my interview (the 11-liner) which was the only thing I required for merit listing. After speaking to my new file manager I found out they never submitted it, despite me confirming that they had on three separate occasions.
With all that said I believe there needs to be an understanding that it is not angst. People simply wanting to know what is normal versus not normal and what they should watch for when applying. I sincerely hope what happened to me was just a fluke but if it wasn't why should someone just sit around and wait only to find their application period has passed and/or their file has been closed with nothing proceeding as is normal?
I am not crying or complaining, in fact I am taking all of this in stride. Still pushing along in my goal to serve in the CAF. Also, as I stated earlier: I know that the CAF does not owe me anything in any way, shape or form.
Just my :2c:
Scott said:
How is it that recruits taking an interest in their application is always equated by senior members here as them whining that they are owed a job. Why are you not glad that potential recruits had enough interest in the job they are applying for that they searched the internet and found this forum where there questions can be answered, or have already been answered and give them a place to read and learn. Or that they care enough to worry about these things, would you rather we just say fuck it, I'm not going to try and gain as much information possible from the senior members who have experience to share. Isn't that a part of army life, sharing the knowledge you have learned while in with those who are new (i.e Cpl's teaching no hook Pte's? the ropes) Or is it for you guys to constantly shit on us for asking questions because were not in or were not the cool kids but you are.
Too bad there isn't a Royal Bank of Canada recruiting forum, where applicants can ask about timelines for job recruiting, OH wait on the RBC careers website it gives applicants a general timeline of when to expect things, and when you call someone there in HR they tell you what the timeline is and when to expect things, and anyone you speak to will give you the same answer. Unlike when you call CFRC's and each week you get a different answer from the same person.
Most applicants understand these things take time, but having people who are ready to completely change their lives at the sound of their phone ringing waiting for 5 months to over a year is a bit ridiculous. When I applied in April it was in hope that by September I would be processed and have a BMQ date for September or October. Well I didn't even get contacted until September at which point I had decided to continue my education to better myself. Here I am almost 1 year since my online application was submitted and I'm being told it could be anywhere from a few more months to a few years, and the recruiters have no idea when anything is going to happen.
Is that fair for a 19 year old kid, who's already dealing with parents who aren't happy with his decision to leave school and join the army, to keep them waiting for months and years at a time. Well in my opinion no. I'm not saying the army owes me a job, or anything really. But applicants would atleast like a fair chance at the process. My recruiter keeps telling me its based on CFAT scores to move on, well I scored high enough for most officer trades have two years of university, played sports at the provincial level etc... I'm not trying to say there aren't better candidates then me, but subjectively when I look at myself I should be more then a competitive applicant.
We as applicants should have to be calling the CFRC to check to see if they're doing the job they are paid to do. If I hadn't been checking in weekly my file transfer in September never would have been processed by CFRC Ottawa. The recruiter I submitted it too went on sick leave without putting in for the transfer request, the second recruiter forgot about it and it was on the third try that it went through. Same with my attempt to book a medical and interview as I was instructed to, two weeks after my CFAT. I was told to come back in two weeks and everything would be okay. Two weeks later, Oh well we haven't started your background check. Come back in a month. A month later, oh well we can't process you right now. Here I am almost half a year since my CFAT and still nothing. I'm moving back to Toronto for the summer, and have really not even scratched the surface of the recruiting process, with no firm dates other then a few months too years as my approximate timeline for further processing.
/rant
Jarnhamar
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Long story short recruiting is a little (heh) fucked up.
We, the CF, say that we need more applicants yet turn around and constantly drop the ball with applicants resulting in applicants who would make great soldiers leaving for other careers. Companies and careers that come across as doing a better job of recruiting people.
You guys don't get straight answers because there is no straight answer to give you or if you're given a straight answer, a timeline say, it can change in the blink of an eye.
If the CF is dropping the ball then start applying to other places, RCMP, CSIS, OPP, The Special Activities Division ( 8) ). You're young, don't waste time waiting for just one phone call. Sooner or later, probably when most of our applicants are doing push ups on warrior platoon, the CF will take a look at fixing our recruiting.
We, the CF, say that we need more applicants yet turn around and constantly drop the ball with applicants resulting in applicants who would make great soldiers leaving for other careers. Companies and careers that come across as doing a better job of recruiting people.
You guys don't get straight answers because there is no straight answer to give you or if you're given a straight answer, a timeline say, it can change in the blink of an eye.
If the CF is dropping the ball then start applying to other places, RCMP, CSIS, OPP, The Special Activities Division ( 8) ). You're young, don't waste time waiting for just one phone call. Sooner or later, probably when most of our applicants are doing push ups on warrior platoon, the CF will take a look at fixing our recruiting.
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You had your rant....Thanks for coming out. Now here are some of my thoughts:
I guess as a "junior' member of the site, you have not read that many posts by those who have thought that joining the CAF was an entitlement. Perhaps with time and more reading you will see their point that many coming here have a "sense of entitlement" and understand.
It is so nice that they have searched the Internet and found this site. It is rather "old" to have so many come and not have done much more in the way of 'research' than find this site and not READ what has already been answered to questions that they may have. It is frustrating when new members to the site ask the exact same questions over and over, sometimes several times within the same day. It is frustrating when a new member SPAMS the site with the same question in different threads. It is nauseating to have a new member reword their questions, because they are not happy with the answers they have received.
Using one's initiative is an attribute that we prize. Not having the fortitude to do proper research, even the most basic, to research information, nor the capability to READ what has been posted, does not reflect well on those who visit this site aspiring to join the CAF.
Your sarcasm is noted.
Can I ask you if the Royal Bank of Canada requires one to lay their life on the line to defend the policies of the Government of Canada? Does the Royal Bank of Canada do aptitude testing, medical testing, Security clearances, etc.? Does the Royal Bank of Canada take any consideration to the fact that their employees will be carrying loaded weapons and firing various weapons systems? Sure the Royal Bank of Canada doesn't take as long to process their applicants through their HR. Mcdonalds is even quicker. Your comparison really is moot.
Speaking of one's "sense of entitlement". You just made a good example of that, yourself. Please read the stickied topic on "Wait Times".
: Again, you make an example of yourself being the type of person who does have a "sense of entitlement" and you should be treated special. Sorry. You are not special.
Sorry. You just don't get it.
KerryBlue said:
I guess as a "junior' member of the site, you have not read that many posts by those who have thought that joining the CAF was an entitlement. Perhaps with time and more reading you will see their point that many coming here have a "sense of entitlement" and understand.
KerryBlue said:
It is so nice that they have searched the Internet and found this site. It is rather "old" to have so many come and not have done much more in the way of 'research' than find this site and not READ what has already been answered to questions that they may have. It is frustrating when new members to the site ask the exact same questions over and over, sometimes several times within the same day. It is frustrating when a new member SPAMS the site with the same question in different threads. It is nauseating to have a new member reword their questions, because they are not happy with the answers they have received.
KerryBlue said:
Using one's initiative is an attribute that we prize. Not having the fortitude to do proper research, even the most basic, to research information, nor the capability to READ what has been posted, does not reflect well on those who visit this site aspiring to join the CAF.
KerryBlue said:
Your sarcasm is noted.
Can I ask you if the Royal Bank of Canada requires one to lay their life on the line to defend the policies of the Government of Canada? Does the Royal Bank of Canada do aptitude testing, medical testing, Security clearances, etc.? Does the Royal Bank of Canada take any consideration to the fact that their employees will be carrying loaded weapons and firing various weapons systems? Sure the Royal Bank of Canada doesn't take as long to process their applicants through their HR. Mcdonalds is even quicker. Your comparison really is moot.
KerryBlue said:
Speaking of one's "sense of entitlement". You just made a good example of that, yourself. Please read the stickied topic on "Wait Times".
KerryBlue said:
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Again, you make an example of yourself being the type of person who does have a "sense of entitlement" and you should be treated special. Sorry. You are not special.KerryBlue said:
Sorry. You just don't get it.
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KerryBlue said:
You're preaching to the choir, junior. There are plenty of people who have had to do some waiting for their job and know exactly how it feels, so wind your neck in just a wee bit. I didn't bother reading all of your post, I have heard it too many times. My comments were meant to inject a bit of reality to the situation, apparently you took it all wrong. Oh well.
If you guys were as dedicated as you profess to be about reading the forums and getting familiar ten you'd realize this:
ObedientiaZelum said:
Which isn't to say that there isn't sympathy, but the party line gets old when it is seen time and time again - and when advice given is ignored.
Edited: clarity.
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ObedientiaZelum said:
Didn't mean yours dude, it was bang on. Too bad it's all stuff that various folks have repeated metric hit loads of times - to no avail with some, it seems. No, I meant KerryBlue's.
George, Scott and Obedientia I appreciate your comments, and the slap in the face. I've had that rant pent up for a few months, said my piece and that's that. Sorry for sounding whiny, or self entitled. I'll just go back to my school work, the gym and reading the forums 
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KerryBlue said:George, Scott and Obedientia I appreciate your comments, and the slap in the face. I've had that rant pent up for a few months, said my piece and that's that. Sorry for sounding whining, or self entitled. I'll just go back to my school work, the gym and reading the forums
No probs. Don't forget to keep in shape. If it's meant to be then it will all pay off. If it's not then best to have a fallback plan.
Best of luck.
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ObedientiaZelum said:
I'd love to chime in but the little voice in my head tells me other wise but I will do it anyhow.
I will say, your first comment is far too kind. The ball hasn't been dropped, in fact, it's not even been picked up. The only answer an applicant gets today is "We'll be in touch."
The system is being fixed and this is the result ----> http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/114067/post-1296015#msg1296015
So summed up and in pictures, this is what it looks like.
After you apply online and trying to reach your local CFRC -----> :brickwall:
After contacting your CFRC and trying to get a CFAT/TSD appointment ----> :deadhorse:
After you write the CFAT/TSD, what comes next -----> :alone:
Where is this new fix heading -----> :trainwreck:
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