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Possible Presidential Candidate Releases His Birth Certificate

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Senator Cruz released his birth certificate,which shows him being born in Calgary.His mother is a US citizen.Cruz is a dual citizen of Canada and the US. :)

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20130818-born-in-canada-ted-cruz-became-a-citizen-of-that-country-as-well-as-u.s..ece

In an effort to repudiate suggestions that he is ineligible to be president of the United States, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) released his birth certificate Sunday to The Dallas Morning News. The birth certificate confirmed that the Texas Republican was born Dec. 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta. Because he was born to an American mother, Cruz instantly became an American citizen. But he also immediately became a Canadian citizen under the country’s law. Given his dual citizenship, Cruz could not only launch a White House bid, but he could also run for Canadian Parliament. With Cruz looking increasingly like a 2016 contender, questions over his eligibility to be president have only gotten louder — harkening back to the debunked conspiracy theories surrounding President Barack Obama’s citizenship. “Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen,” Cruz spokeswoman Catherine Frazier told the Morning News.
 
having dual citizenship would he have issues?
props to him for releasing the information before D.Trump sniffed into his past. /lulz

 
If he stood for both jobs (President and Prime Minister) at the same time, would we have to have another "Lord Black" episode ??? ;)
 
The current PM is an economics weenie from Toronto.  Sen Cruz could be a real western Prime Minister.

At least, I'm assuming that's what's pretty awesome...
 
If he doesn't like Obamacare, he can drive 1300 miles straight North to Winnipeg to get free health care.
 
The Senator has applied or is planning to apply to renounce his Canadian Citizenship.

Eyeing White House bid, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz says it’s no big deal to drop Canadian citizenship

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/eyeing-white-house-bid-texas-sen-ted-cruz-says-its-no-big-deal-to-drop-canadian-citizenship/2013/08/20/e023b48c-09d1-11e3-89fe-abb4a5067014_story.html

Cruz, a Texas Republican and tea party favorite, was born in Canada, to a Cuban father and U.S.-born mother. His mother’s status has allowed him to be a citizen of both the United States and Canada, but he said Tuesday in Houston, “I believe it makes sense for me to be only an American.”

Previous foreign-born Americans — notably Republicans John McCain and George Romney — have run for president with some mention but no serious challenges of their eligibility.

The chief upshot of Cruz’s announcement that he will renounce his Canadian citizenship is to suggest he’s seriously eyeing a presidential bid in 2016, and would like to settle that side issue now. Cruz is among Obama’s sharpest critics, and is vying for early national attention with another tea party-backed Senate freshman, Rand Paul of Kentucky.

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Cruz acknowledges being born in Calgary, Alberta, on Dec. 22, 1970. He says that after moving to Texas as a child, he never made an affirmative claim to dual citizenship, and he’s now promising to drop his Canadian citizenship if in fact he holds it


What Ted Cruz actually needs to do to renounce Canadian citizenship

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/08/20/what-ted-cruz-actually-needs-to-do-to-renounce-canadian-citizenship/?hpid=z4

But as it turns out, you can’t just decide to not be Canadian; you’ve got to earn it. Here are the steps Cruz would have to take to determine if he is even eligible to renounce Canadian citizenship:

1. Be a Canadian citizen.
According to Nancy Caron, a spokesperson for Citizenship and Immigration Canada, under the country’s Citizenship Act, “children born in Canada are automatically Canadian citizens, unless they are born to foreign diplomats” and “those who automatically become Canadian citizens do not need to apply for citizenship.”

So yes, because Cruz released his birth certificate, we know that he was indeed born in Calgary, making him a Canadian citizen despite never formally applying for citizenship.

2. Prove that you are or that you will become a citizen of a country other than Canada if your application to renounce is approved.
Cruz is also a U.S. citizen by virtue of his mother, Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson who was born in Wilmington, Del. Whether or not this qualifies him for the White House remains uncertain.

3. Not live in Canada.
Ted lives in Houston with his wife Heidi and daughters Caroline and Catherine.

4. Be at least 18 years old.
Easy. Cruz was born in 1970.

5. Not be a threat to Canada’s security or part of a pattern of criminal activity.
Unlikely.

6. Understand the significance of renouncing your Canadian citizenship.
This might be a little difficult to prove. Cruz offset his renunciation of Canadian citizenship with a bit of a backhanded compliment to Canada. But Canadians don’t seem particularly perturbed, particularly these MLAs from Fredericton-Fort Nashwaak and Vancouver:

After eligibility is proved, all Cruz needs to do is mail in his completed application and pay the nonrefundable fee. If he does decide to renounce his citizenship, Cruz would be moving against the trend of Canadian citizenship applications. Last year, only 192 people applied to renounce their citizenship (the average over the last five years has been 196) and according to CBC News in Ottawa, citizenship applications have increased by 30 percent from 2006 to 2012. There are currently 350,000 permanent residents on the waiting list, which will make it very difficult for Cruz should he ever change his mind.

And here is a link to the application form required to renounce your citizenship.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/citizen/CIT0302E.pdf
 
Ahhh. This explains it all. Apparently for Americans, Canada isn't considered foreign soil. :cdnsalute:

Cruz's Supporters Don't Question Eligibility

http://www.texastribune.org/2013/08/23/cruzs-supporters-dont-question-eligibility/

KINGWOOD, Texas — When Democrat Barack Obama was running for president in 2008, Republican voter Christina Katok of Walden said she believed he was ineligible for the job.

She reasoned that he was born in Kenya and therefore wasn’t a “natural born” American — one of a handful of constitutional requirements for the job. (Obama's birth certificate shows that he was born in Hawaii, but some critics do not accept that as fact.)

Fast forward six years and another freshman U.S. senator, Canadian-born Tea Party firebrand Ted Cruz of Texas, is being mentioned as a potential 2016 presidential candidate. But Katok, who would vote for Cruz in a heartbeat, doesn’t have any concerns about his eligibility.

“As far as I’m concerned, Canada is not really foreign soil,” she said. Katok said she was more disturbed by Obama's "strong ties to Kenya," the African country where his father was born. She also said she didn’t like the fact that Obama did not release his long-form birth certificate during the 2008 race.

Cruz, who recently released his Canadian birth certificate, is at least “up front about it,” she said.

Katok, who saw Cruz speak at a Tea Party rally here this week, is not alone. The vastly different perceptions of similar controversies were evident at rallies and events Cruz attended this week across Texas, where he is meeting with constituents and promoting his drive to strip federal funding for Obamacare.

Liberal critics say Republicans who questioned Obama’s presidential eligibility are being hypocritical now that one of their own is facing questions about his. Republican partisans say the controversies are different — and that Cruz has been more transparent about the circumstances of his birth.

But partisanship may also be a factor in the differing perceptions.

Kerrville real estate broker Sue Tiemann, for example, said she had questioned Obama’s American citizenship and concluded that if he had not been born in this country, he would not be eligible.

Even if Obama had been born in Kenya, though, nobody disputed that his mother was from Kansas. In that case, it would be strikingly similar to the circumstances of Cruz’s birth: a mother who was an American citizen, born in Delaware, and a father born somewhere else (in Cruz’s case, Cuba).

Tiemann, who said she has no doubt that Cruz is eligible to be president, acknowledged that party affiliation might have something to do with her evaluation of the circumstances.

“You are always going to have that issue between Republicans and Democrats, [who] always look at it with a different way, a different eye,” she said.

The issue of Obama’s birthplace came up briefly during Cruz’s race for the U.S. Senate. In an October 2012 televised debate, Cruz’s Democratic opponent, Paul Sadler, asked Cruz if he considered himself a “birther,” and whether he believed Obama is Christian. Cruz declined to answer.

Chuck McDonald, who ran Sadler’s campaign, said they thought it was potentially a good wedge issue in the race.

“He could either be in a position where he would have to denounce the birther issue and thus alienate some of his supporters, or he could embrace that marginal point of view,” McDonald said. “He was never forced to really answer the question.”

On Wednesday, Cruz told The Texas Tribune that he never questioned Obama’s eligibility but wondered why the president wasn’t more forthcoming with his full birth certificate.

“I thought it was curious that he didn’t hand over his birth certificate, but I never raised [that],” Cruz said. “When I got the question from the paper, I said sure, here’s my birth certificate, which I think is a pretty straightforward thing to do.”

Cruz released his birth certificate to The Dallas Morning News, which discovered that the senator is still a Canadian citizen. Cruz says he plans to fill out the paperwork needed to renounce his Canadian citizenship.

During the 2008 campaign, Obama released a computer-generated “certification of live birth” indicating he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. According to a timeline published by PolitiFact, Obama sought a “waiver from Hawaii’s prohibition on releasing the long-form birth certificate” on April 18, 2011.

Nine days later, the White House publicly released the long-form birth certificate.

“I know there’s going to be a segment of people for which, no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest,” Obama said after providing the document. “But I’m speaking to the vast majority of the American people, as well as to the press. We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We’ve got better stuff to do.”

You can watch the video at the link and hear the words from the horses's mouth. Yes she really did say that.

And the sad part is that was only the second dumbest thing I heard said today.  :facepalm:
 
cupper said:
And the sad part is that was only the second dumbest thing I heard said today.  :facepalm:

The funniest I heard was:
“But I’m speaking to the vast majority of the American people, as well as to the press. We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We’ve got better stuff to do.”

Chapter One of the Acme Book of Magic - Audience Deflection

 
cupper said:
Ahhh. This explains it all. Apparently for Americans, Canada isn't considered foreign soil. :cdnsalute:

Hell, LAX has Canadian destinations lumped in with Domestic terminals instead of International (Ted something or other) terminal.
 
Maybe she went to school with Sarah Palin in Alaska, so they both sat on the porch chatting at night, watching Russia ...  :)
 
Can we put this to bed once and for all? Not only can you see Russia from Alaska, but you can look into the future.
Maybe she went to school with Sarah Palin in Alaska, so they both sat on the porch chatting at night, watching Russia ...

Two TV programs, Flying Wild Alaska, and Alaska State Troopers have visited the island several times. On one episode the State Dept had to get clearance as the aircraft was carrying explosives near Russian airspace.

Little Diomede Island (native name Ignaluk; formerly known as Krusenstern Island, which can also refer to other places)[1] is an island of Alaska, United States. It is the smaller of the two Diomede Islands located in the middle of the Bering Strait between the Alaska mainland and Siberia. Its neighboring island Big Diomede is less than 2.4 mi (3.9 km) to the west, but is part of Russia and west of the International Date Line. Little Diomede has an estimated population of 135.

Photos:

- Map

-5040th HH-3E slinging radar antennas at Tin City Air Force Station, near Nome, Alaska 1971 with Big Diomede Island and Russian coast in the background.
 
To be fair to Sarah Palin, it was Tina Fey who said "I can see Russia from my house"; Sarah merely observed that there are places in Alaska where you can see Russia.



 
To be fair to Sarah Palin, it was Tina Fey who said "I can see Russia from my house"; Sarah merely observed that there are places in Alaska where you can see Russia.

But trumpeted by everyone to slag her.
 
Now come on all. Be honest: Tina Fey (and others) may have slogged her for that comment, and yes, a tiny uninhabited little island (except for some US military from time to time) at the end of the Aleutians looks upon a tiny uninhabited (except for some Russian military from time to time) island of Russia, but even the exact comment made by Palin was meant to convey that somehow that gave her some cred in International matters and diplomacy, when she barely ever left Alaska in her life, and then mostly to travel to the continental US only.

Palin's comment, in the context it was given, was ridiculous then and deserved the treatment it got, just as this lady's comment on Canada being US soil is ridiculous and deserve the contempt it is getting.
 
Her comment was taken out of context so that she could be destroyed politically as she was considered a threat by the dem's.
 
......a tiny uninhabited little island (except for some US military from time to time)....

If you read the post you would have seen: Little Diomede has an estimated population of 135.

..... some cred in International matters and diplomacy, when she barely ever left Alaska in her life, and then mostly to travel to the continental US only.

How about: some cred in International matters and diplomacy, when he barely ever left Chicago in his life, and then mostly to travel to Washington only.

Ms Palin may not have been successful on a national basis. But do you like six + trillion $ of debt in four years, the current economic "policy", foreign "policy", the way people where hung out to dry under fire in Benghazi, the IRS, a budget every five years, cabinet meeting every 400 days, the POTUS package flying around at huge expense campaigning continually/constantly on one speaking point or another, and .........?

You pick.

Oh yeah, a Nobel peace prize winner. Maybe your CF service made you a winner of the Nobel also. You earned it, he didn't.
                                                                                         
 
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