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Our current PM has never been much for protocol. Overshadows his soundbites.
Queen Elizabeth II, 1926-2022
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He's not wrong ...
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Just a trivial question: does anyone know what the 2022 protocol is re: mounting bands for uniformed (e.g. CF and RCMP) personnel?
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For the CAF here is what the dress manual says
MOURNING BANDS
- A mourning band is an adjustable black crepe band, 9 cm wide, worn on ceremonial and service dress jackets and on the topcoat (gabardine) and raincoat, midway between the elbow and shoulder on the left sleeve. The wearer is thus seen to “wear mourning”; court, service, or private. See QR&O 17.15, 17.16 and 17.17.
- Mourning bands shall be worn on the uniform by:
- officers on specified duty when the court is in mourning (see QR&O 17.15);
- officers when service mourning is directed (see QR&O 17.16); and
- officers, CPO1s and CWOs participating in a military funeral or memorial service (see QR&O 17.17).
- Mourning bands may be worn by officers or non-commissioned members at a private funeral in the event of personal bereavement.
- Mourning bands shall not be worn at the unveiling of memorials, Remembrance Day services, or similar ceremonies.
- Mourning bands shall be removed immediately upon leaving the place of interment or memorial service, unless worn in accordance with instructions for court or service mourning.
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There is a notification and link on the CAF app that brings you to a tribute page run by Canadian Heritage.
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So, if this is to be believed, we (Canada) may be doing it right while everyone else is doing it incorrectly.
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We ve been sent mourning ribbons as is our new custom- it’s a pin on the uniform rather than a band per say. With instructions on timeline-when it comes down etc
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The dress regs (as referenced by dangerboy) provides instruction as to how; the when and who so declares is in QR&Os.
QR&O: Volume I - Chapter 17 Dress And Appearance - Canada.ca
Queen's Regulations and Orders - QR&O - Chapter 17 - Dress and Appearance
Section 2 - Mourning
17.15 - COURT MOURNING
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), court mourning does not apply to the Canadian Forces.
(2) An officer shall wear court mourning only if the court is in mourning and the officer is:
a. attending court functions including levees;
b. in attendance upon the Governor General or the Lieutenant-Governor of a province; or
c. on duty with an escort or guard of honour provided for the Governor General or the Lieutenant Governor of a province.
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17.16 - SERVICE MOURNING
(1) Service mourning applies to officers only.
(2) The Chief of the Defence Staff may order service mourning on the occasions, under the conditions and for the period he considers necessary.
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Well, the periods of official mourning seems quite short. I just returned from a short walk from my home , past Parliament Hill, to the National War Memorial. All federal flags are at full staff. Some flags on private buildings are still at half mast.
Commemorative events - Canada.ca
Information on the commemorative ceremonies in Canada and state funeral in London following the passing of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
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Information on the commemorative ceremonies in Canada and state funeral in London following the passing of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.www.canada.ca
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That one caught me by surprise yesterday, too, Edward when I read that the flags come up briefly to full mast as the new Monarch Ascends and they all go back down again until the funeral.
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Since this has not happened in my life time, I guess we are all rusty on the procedures.
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Pedantic interruptus.
While our late Sovereign Lady of happy Memory may have ascended as would be expected of her religious beliefs and years of devoted service as Defender Of The Faith, the term used to describe the event of a Sovereign succeeding to the throne is "accession".
Accession
Accession describes the event of a new Sovereign taking the throne upon the death of the previous King or Queen. A new Sovereign succeeds to the throne as soon...
But yes, we can expect more archaic syntax and ritual to accompany the accession and eventual coronation.
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Thanks.Pedantic interruptus.
While our late Sovereign Lady of happy Memory may have ascended as would be expected of her religious beliefs and years of devoted service as Defender Of The Faith, the term used to describe the event of a Sovereign succeeding to the throne is "accession".
Accession
Accession describes the event of a new Sovereign taking the throne upon the death of the previous King or Queen. A new Sovereign succeeds to the throne as soon...www.royal.uk
But yes, we can expect more archaic syntax and ritual to accompany the accession and eventual coronation.
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While I subscribe to the principles of ABC (writing/communication) and KISS (everything), I do realize that ceremony does have a place; some of it is for entertainment, some to placate traditionalists, and some because it fulfills a legal requirement. So over the past couple of days I've paid attention to and much noticed the differences (understandable differences?) in the accession proclamations made in the different realms. As there was previous brief comment about Canada's protocol (or lack thereof) in the matter, I thought a comparison of the public ceremonies would be useful (okay, if not useful, at least entertaining, or providing grist to the complaint mill).
In London (click to watch on YouTube)
(there were also gun salutes in London)
Australia
New Zealand
And Canada
Well, that last one was a minimalist approach.
In London (click to watch on YouTube)
Australia
New Zealand
And Canada
Well, that last one was a minimalist approach.
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Queen Elizabeth literally lead the de-colonization of Africa. She was the driving force behind anti-apartheid.
Her record is one to be proud of.
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