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RC Manager Delegation fo Authorities

CountDC said:
Correct and we didn't - CO's are that - CO's not RC Mgrs and have different authorities than RC Mgrs.  For example a CO can authorize travel on TD over 100km while an RC Mgr is restricted to travel of 100km or less.  If your CO does not have a DOA for Base Commander and Equivalants vice an RC Mgr DOA then who is approving the units travel over 100km as no one in the unit has the authority. There are other differences such as CO can write off debt, RC Mgrs can't, CO can write off material up to 250k, RC Mgrs are at 5k. 

We just went through a DMPAP Policy Compliance this year and the DOA's were done correctly.  CO's are ultimately responsible for all the unit finances but can designate someone as the RC Mgr. That RC Mgr can in turn assign RC Admins that perform certain parts for them such as 32/34 of Financial Documentation.

CO's authorize the member "absence" from their place of duty.  RC Manager or Admins authorize remibursement of expenses associated with that.  Financial Signing authority, cannot be delegated..  That's actually a question on the 32/33/34  EMC Course.    :)

At the end of the day, it's all about the prudent use of allocated public funds.
 
DAA said:
As far as travel restrictions on distance, that's probably a local unit policy.  At the end of the day, it's all about the prudent use of allocated public funds.

No.  Read the delegation of authorities document, and the travel policy.  Spelled out in black and white.  (With occasional bits of grey).
 
CountDC said:
Correct and we didn't - CO's are that - CO's not RC Mgrs and have different authorities than RC Mgrs.  For example a CO can authorize travel on TD over 100km while an RC Mgr is restricted to travel of 100km or less.  If your CO does not have a DOA for Base Commander and Equivalants vice an RC Mgr DOA then who is approving the units travel over 100km as no one in the unit has the authority. There are other differences such as CO can write off debt, RC Mgrs can't, CO can write off material up to 250k, RC Mgrs are at 5k. 

We just went through a DMPAP Policy Compliance this year and the DOA's were done correctly.  CO's are ultimately responsible for all the unit finances but can designate someone as the RC Mgr. That RC Mgr can in turn assign RC Admins that perform certain parts for them such as 32/34 of Financial Documentation.

I will put the actual policy up tomorrow but if a unit only has one Cost Center then only the CO has full authorities and is the de facto "RC Manager" even though he will have a CO & Equiv DOA.  Only when a unit has multiple Cost Centers can anyone other than the CO be delegated/designated as a RC Manager.

DAA said:
As far as travel restrictions on distance, that's probably a local unit policy.  At the end of the day, it's all about the prudent use of allocated public funds.

Not a local policy at all, it is a nationally directed policy.
 
Would that be RDIMS # 1158219 Delegation of Authorities for Financial Administration for DND and the CAF A-FN-100-002/AG-006 you are referring to?

Be interesting to bring up when DMPAP arrives here at the new position for their scheduled visit.  earlier it was good to go and now maybe not.  These constant changes are annoying. 

DAA: What was presented to us is the CO's are not just authorizing the absence - they are authorizing the actual travel.  They are the final signature on the ITA/MTA authorizing the travel indicated there.  The travel restrictions are also indicated in the document above.

Delegation of Financial Signing Authority is via the DOA form raised IAW DND and The CAF Delegation of Auth for Fin Admin Matrix.  When they say it can not be delegated they mean as RC Mgr I could not delegate someone else the signing authorities of RC Mgr but I could assign someone else as RC Admin with the delegated signing authorities in the matrix.  Noted though there is no longer an RC Mgr, the matrix now reads Other RC Mgr.
 
dapaterson said:
No.  Read the delegation of authorities document, and the travel policy.  Spelled out in black and white.  (With occasional bits of grey).

CountDC said:
DAA: What was presented to us is the CO's are not just authorizing the absence - they are authorizing the actual travel.  They are the final signature on the ITA/MTA authorizing the travel indicated there.  The travel restrictions are also indicated in the document above.

Yes, my bad.  I recall seeing that during the implementation of the ITA forms.  Just another way to curb the use of 2106 Travel.    Thanks for pointing this out!!!!
 
dapaterson said:
No.  Read the delegation of authorities document, and the travel policy.  Spelled out in black and white.  (With occasional bits of grey).

This is the direction we've received from NAVRESHQ:

• RC Managers can only approve local travel (local travel being within 100km of a member's normal workplace);
• For the NRDs, the CO can designate an RC Manager (i.e. XO, Admin O, or any personnel acting as the CO’s 2 I/C for financial matters). All remaining personnel are designated as RC Administrators.

However, at least in the central region, CO's aren't designating RC Managers, but rather designated RC Administrators.
 
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