RCR

[George Wallace]

Don't you watch the news?

 

[Journeyman]

Are we training soldiers to go fight an intelligent, tough, insensitive foe, or are we training advanced boyscouts still?

Perhaps if you'd spend a bit less time dredging up long-dead threads that have RCR in the title, and more time reading about what Canada's soldiers are actually doing today...much less bandwidth would be wasted

(oh man, you should have seen the sarcasm before I edited this one!    )

Note: Thanks for updating your profile. Now you have credibility  :

 

[zipperhead_cop]

How does it measure up today? Are we training soldiers to go fight an intelligent, tough, insensitive foe, or are we training advanced boyscouts still?

Just curious.

Dude, you've been in the CF for 12 years and you are not sure if CF training is effective  ???  As a MCPL you have never taught on a recruit class, or led a section in an exercise? 
I'm sure the "advanced boyscouts" tearing asses up in the Kandahar region think they are doing rather well.  :

 

[NUTTS]

Wow....Ouch!  Man, hyper sensitive aren't ya?
I've been out since '96 and don't take it too literal guys. I was just curious if the government went back to regular training practices.

You know, there was a time all they cared about was quantity over quality.

Sohohorry.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Wow....Ouch!  Man, hyper sensitive aren't ya?

.... and who was the one that got all hyper sensitive and bent over the expression Chicken F***er. :

Whatever. You're coming close to trolling. Better re-read the guidelines.

 

[043]

Back to the original questions...........I have served with both units on deployments and I have to tip my hat to both............however, I would say, IMHO that 3 RCR is the better of the two units.  The NCO's in 3 RCR are outstanding, and allow subordinates to make mistakes without berating them and giving them the opportunity to see the error of their ways. 1 RCR is not that way at all.

It may just be the way I am seeing it thought because when I served with 1 RCR I was with Charles Coy and when I was with 3 RCR I was with Recce Pn.

Pro Patria!!!

 

[Hockeycaper]

Back to the original questions...........I have served with both units on deployments and I have to tip my hat to both............however, I would say, IMHO that 3 RCR is the better of the two units.  The NCO's in 3 RCR are outstanding, and allow subordinates to make mistakes without berating them and giving them the opportunity to see the error of their ways. 1 RCR is not that way at all.

It may just be the way I am seeing it thought because when I served with 1 RCR I was with Charles Coy and when I was with 3 RCR I was with Recce Pn.

Pro Patria!!!

Well let's stop this here...You had a bad time with Charles Coy in 1RCR? You can't be seriously comparing time in a Rifle Coy with time in Recce Platoon. It's two different worlds...Now take back those bad comments about Charles Coy I can see you saying bad things about Duke's Coy or even Bravo.....but not Charles!   ( I was in Charles from 1994-2000).

 

[George Wallace]

I've been out since '96 and don't take it too literal guys. I was just curious if the government went back to regular training practices.

Now your stories aren't jiving.   95 or is it 96 - 86 = less than 12........

2006 - 1986 = 20     

38 - 20  = 18

Just doing some math. 

Of course the CF has been doing its' thing to keep the troops trained.  More and more deployments, have kept the troops fairly well up to speed on what is required of them as Cbt soldiers.

 

[043]

Well let's stop this here...You had a bad time with Charles Coy in 1RCR? You can't be seriously comparing time in a Rifle Coy with time in Recce Platoon. It's two different worlds...Now take back those bad comments about Charles Coy I can see you saying bad things about Duke's Coy or even Bravo.....but not Charles!    ( I was in Charles from 1994-2000).

Ah, you must have been one of the many Royals who my fellow Engineers and myself feasted on during the Drvar Cup Ball Hockey League!!!!!!!!

 

[Mortar guy]

Now take back those bad comments about Charles Coy I can see you saying bad things about Duke's Coy or even Bravo.....but not Charles!   ( I was in Charles from 1994-2000).

Oh, give me a break! We all know that Bravo Coy is/was by far the best Rifle Coy in the entire CF. Granted, Charles Commando came close for a couple of years but everyone knew Bravo were the big dogs. Bravo Company was almost as good as Mor Pl but of course you can't compare the two (it's like comparing JTF-2 with an Air Cadet Squadron).

;D

(I was in Bravo from 98-01 and Mor Pl from 01-02)

Once again,  ;D

MG

 

[paracowboy]

Ladies, ladies, ladies. When you start with Bravo, vs Dukes, vs whomever, in 1 RCR as the 'best' you make it very difficult for us to take you seriously. Please complete the sentence: "best after any sub-unit in 3 RCR". I'm sure you're all very good, but let's not get silly. As all the world knows, 3 RCR was the very best Canada had to offer.

Until 2003, when 3 PPCLI became the best unit in the world. (Funny how that works.)

 

[the 48th regulator]

Well let's stop this here...You had a bad time with Charles Coy in 1RCR? You can't be seriously comparing time in a Rifle Coy with time in Recce Platoon. It's two different worlds...Now take back those bad comments about Charles Coy I can see you saying bad things about Duke's Coy or even Bravo.....but not Charles!   ( I was in Charles from 1994-2000).

Get out of town!!  I served with Charles when we went overseas from '94-'95, what platoon were you in??

dileas

tess

 

[Hockeycaper]

Get out of town!!  I served with Charles when we went overseas from '94-'95, what platoon were you in??

dileas

tess

Come on Tess..you had a great time...oops check that...memorable time, Oh never mind...... you met some really great guys and learned that every game in the world can be turned into a drinking game

 

[the 48th regulator]

I hear you brother, best time of my life was had with Charles, and the whole Regiment, for that matter.

dileas

tess

 

[Blakey]

I don't know what is the standard for today as far as recruit courses go, but 2 decades ago we were considered filth. Then sometime around '89 I remember a memo being passed around about a more softer approach to training recruits.  No more running in combat boots. No more than 15 push-ups to be assigned at once for minor infractions, etc.  We thought we would get girl guides though there were lots of ways to get around 'rules' as there always has been.

How does it measure up today? Are we training soldiers to go fight an intelligent, tough, insensitive foe, or are we training advanced boyscouts still?

Just curious.

Alrighty then, sorry all you people that just don't like reading my posts but, I'm going to step in on this one.
I went through Cornwallis in '89 --course 8921 to be exact-- and I have no recollection of "not doing more than 15 push-ups".  After 10 weeks of "not doing more than 15 pushups at a time" I was sent to The RCR Battle School, at CFB Petawawa (8905 Festubert Pl). I spent 16 glorious weeks of running in combat boots with FFO and MO.

The whole combat boot thing (IIRC) came into effect around 95-96, anyone else remember?

 

[paracowboy]

The whole combat boot thing (IIRC) came into effect around 95-96, anyone else remember?

yup. And we, in 3 Coop, still did it whenever we could get out of sight. (Ski trails and golf course, mostly. Our WOs didn't want us doin' it on pavement.)

 

[Yeoman]

havin been with both battalions I think I'm qualified to talk?
1; hmmmmmmm.................things every now and again just seemed (keyword; seemed) to run smooth at a higher level, so the private has an idea on what's going on in the next few uhhhhh...........days. you could get away a little bit more with nonissued kit (the current RSM's policy for boots; if it's black, it's allowed, and if it makes the troop a better fighting soldier then wear it). I mean like you should see my room mates c7; you'd think he's some-uber-airborne-recce-scuba-ninja-sniper-omfgjtfers guy or something. plus those guys got to ride into battle; why carry your kit, when your kit can carry you right? to me 1RCR was a little bit more old school (ie, I got jacked for not calling a Cpl by his rank once, ohhh the dark side once you get your plq), as well everything has to be done in memo (and I HATE memos)
as for 3; hmmmmmmmm................things seem to be a little more laid back in the rank wise, so long as you do what you're told, they leave you alone basically. you do more PT over here I noticed (hey not complainin, I'm just a fat slow kid). a bit more strict on non issued kit (but it's not like you can't wear a stealth jacket or puffy you can) you've got a little bit more freedom to think at a lower rank level.
out of the two battalions? I haven't regretted going to 3RCR, except for that missing a tour into Afghanistan part, that sucked.
Greg

 

[ProPatria Mike]

I can remember when we, in 1 RCR, still spit shone our combat boots and did the freaking four count in drill.... I can also remember going to 3 RCR in the summer of 79 when Delta Company, 1 RCR, went over to Baden en masse. Great times in both battalions and, as far as NCOs go, I found there were a lot of cross postings and very little, if any, difference in standards due to battalion affiliation.

 

[xo31@711ret]

Hi Mike, gerry here from the 'other / Brother' site; I remember spit shining our combat boots in the first and a lot of pt in same boots(in fact we spit shone most all our military issued boots: shoes, ankles, jump & combats; hell, I remember one time one the parade square during a kit inspection to have our Arctic slippers (useless piece of kit! ) shone; this from the CSM at the time  : ) ; missed the 4 count though;

PS know we all know that Duke's was / is the First & Finest  ;D !

-gerry

 

[Michael OLeary]

The Royal Canadian Regiment
20 Questions

I'm looking for some input from the Royal Canadians on the forum:

"20 Questions" is a series of collected responses examining various aspects of Regimental life and training within The RCR and the Canadian Army. This project has been developed to capture comparative information to allow new soldiers and others to see how the training, operations, and living conditions of our soldiers has evolved over time.  Find the question sets and links to submitted responses on these pages:

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