Renaming of MedTech and MedA

[mariomike]

Once this all settles out in time and everyone is qualified to match their occupation, what will the ‘paramedics’ do versus the ‘combat medics’?

9-1-1 calls?

 

[SeaKingTacco]

9-1-1 calls?

Are you serious?

 

[mariomike]

Are you serious?

Only half.

If paramedics can't do 9-1-1 calls, what do you think they should do?

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Only half.

If paramedics can't do 9-1-1 calls, what do you think they should do?

What I think the Military medical system should be doing has nothing at all in common with a 9-11 call…

We can can barely get CFHS Gp to staff clinics on bankers hours, let alone do combat medicine.

 

[mariomike]

What I think the Military medical system should be doing has nothing at all in common with a 9-11 call…

ok.

Which brings the discussion back to...

what will the ‘paramedics’ do versus the ‘combat medics’?

 

[MedCorps]

What’s the intent behind splitting RegF Med Tech, and what will be the distribution of the two new occupations in real life?

The intent it would seem is to have a quicker, less costly, CAF controlled training pipeline to deployment for Combat Medics. The training from recruitment to QL5 (or RQ Cpl) is too long now for Med Tech and there is a realization that the Primary Care Paramedic skill set is not universally required in combat / operations. We do not see a lot of heart blocks, seizures, strokes, geriatrics, etc in our military population but we do need someone who is a trauma ninja - with advanced interventions (cric, blood, etc), can do prolonged field care when the evacuation system fails, and do sick parade out of a bag.

I think there was also a perception that we were being choked by the civilian colleges who want to make provincial paramedics and not military paramedics. As such the cost was high and we could not secure enough spots to dig us out of the Med Tech shortage hole we are in.

Finally, it would seem that in the next 10 years paramedicine may be moving toward a degree in some (most?) of Canada and that just complicates the traning process.

It will also allow Reg F / Res F interchangability unlike Med A and Med Tech does now.

Once this all settles out in time and everyone is qualified to match their occupation, what will the ‘paramedics’ do versus the ‘combat medics’?

In general, the way I understand it...

Paramedics function in isolated places (ships, SOF, back of aircraft) or lead Combat Medics when paired together (ambulance team, Sr Coy Medic)

Comabt Medics work in Med Dets, UMS, Med Pl, drive ambulances (partner to a paramedic), work the wards in field hospitals, most CDUs, Crew Comd Armd Amb in Fd Amb, work as Pl Medics, and all other "all-arms" type jobs in field units.

Is CAF going to substitute its own training curriculum for PCP/ACP to ensure they have the appropriate clinical skills to actually be able to go out the door and do field trauma care?

The CAF has created and have approved a new Scope of Practice both for Comabt Medic and Paramedic that meets then needs of military service. Depite the Paramedic will be schooled as a Primary Care Paramedic they they get extra training to do things we need to them to so that civilian paramedics at the primary care level do not do, like put in a chest tubes, suture, and give blood, for example.

I have seen both of the Scopes of Practice and they are appropriately agressive to maximize casualty survival during war / operations.

 

[MedCorps]

Will there be any monetary incentives for one over the other?

This is the million dollar question - everyone is waiting to see if both, one, or neither of the new MOSID get some sort of Spec Pay.

 

[mariomike]

Finally, it would seem that in the next 10 years paramedicine may be moving toward a degree in some (most?) of Canada and that just complicates the traning process.

They are already there.

Paramedicine at the University of Toronto​

a four-year Honours Bachelor of Science program and a two-year diploma program

Admission Requirements​

Ontario high school

• High school diploma (OSSD)
• At least six (6) Grade 12 “U” or “M” courses

Admission prerequisite:

• Advanced Functions or Calculus & Vectors or Mathematics of Data Management
• Biology
• Chemistry (recommended)
• English

Approximate grade requirements: Low 80s

Please note: Paramedicine is a first-year entry program; if you have completed post-secondary studies, you are not eligible for admission. Exception: Applicants who have completed a Paramedic diploma program from an Ontario college will be considered and are welcome to apply.