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Report warns of rising tide of U.S. 'anti-<Canadianism>'

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PUBLICATION:  National Post
DATE:  2005.03.02
EDITION:  National
SECTION:  News
PAGE:  A1 / Front
BYLINE:  Scott Stinson
SOURCE:  National PostPOLICY; <CANADA>; UNITED STATES 
ILLUSTRATION: Black & White Photo: U.S. <Navy>, The New York Times / AnAries target missile lifts off from Kauai, Hawaii, in a 2002 missile-defence test that saw it intercepted three and a half minutes later by a missile launched from a U.S. warship. 
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The closer we get, the farther apart we are: Report warns of rising tide of U.S. 'anti-<Canadianism>'

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<Canada> and the United States are at their most acrimonious point in recent history, despite being more reliant on each other than ever, an assembly of 70 high-profile citizens of the two countries warns.

"It is by now evident that <Canada> is losing influence in Washington," says the report, the product of the American Assembly, a series of meetings last month in New York.

"At the same time that <Canada> has lost clout in Washington, U.S. leadership's judgment post-9/11 has been met with skepticism and even hostility by <Canadians>."

The report notes the relationship has been strained at other times over the past century, but "we are witnessing something new: the emergence on the right of a troubling anti-<Canadianism> ... that regularly contrasts American values with those of a soft and self-indulgent <Canada>."

"This misguided impulse pales beside the disturbing and persistent currents of anti-Americanism in <Canada>," the study says.

The group included Allan Gotlieb, <Canada's> former ambassador to the U.S.; James Blanchard, former U.S. ambassador to <Canada>; Quebec Premier Jean Charest; former prime minister Joe Clark; and leaders from business, academia, labour and the media.

One of the assembly's major findings was that <Canada> should participate in ballistic missile defence. Although the report was released yesterday, that conclusion has been overtaken by the Liberal government's decision last week not to participate.

Douglas Goold, president and chief executive of the <Canadian> Institute for International Affairs, a think-tank that co-sponsored the assembly, said yesterday that among the 70 attendees an "overwhelming majority thought it was in the best interests of both countries for <Canada> to go ahead [with ballistic missile defence], and if they were all sitting in the room today they would be extremely disappointed with the decision Paul Martin took last week."

Mr. Goold said in an interview it was generally agreed that the North American Aerospace Defence Command is one of the most successful examples of co-operation between the nations, and that its mandate should grow in the coming years to include new aspects of shared defence.

"There was also a sense that we should not just renew [NORAD], we should expand it. Far from wanting to cut back, the sense was that <Canada> had to play a more vigorous part" in defence.

Some of the reasons for the strained relationship between the two countries can be traced to structural reasons, such as the end of the Cold War, which eliminated a sense of mutual purpose in the face of a common threat, Mr. Goold said.

But he also noted some of the unease can be attributed to the post-9/11 U.S. focus on security issues, both at home and overseas. "What the people at the assembly said was <Canada> has to recognize and accept that security is a priority for the United States," Mr. Goold said. "We just have to recognize it and accept it and move forward."

Paul Cellucci, the outgoing U.S. ambassador to <Canada>, was a keynote speaker at the American Assembly, and he told the participants that "security trumps trade, while we must keep trade flowing."

The report also noted how <Canada> and the U.S. have become increasingly bound to each other, despite political disagreements.

"<Canada> and the United States are linked by a vast and largely effective network of formal and informal government arrangements and the federal, provincial and state levels. The networks of collaboration and trust are a vital asset," it said.
 
I was just in washington on sunday, I talked to all kinds of americans and felt no tension or 'anti canadianism'... while wearing my infantry sweater with a large maple leaf on it.
Before that we did some training with some US Airborne guys, and they thought we were bang on.I say the same about them too.IMO, not to say that there arent some people that arent fond of us and us of them, but its hardly at the point where people are burning flags in the streets and spraypainting "F-Canada" on buildings or something.
All this anti canadianism/americanism is blown out of proportion and over analyzed.

My 2c.  :cdn:
 
The tensions between our two countries exists amongst the political class.
 
A lot of these reports are coming out of Wall Street and Business and Economic publications.   There has always been a mutual respect between the Militaries, it is the naivete of the Business and Civic leaders  (on both sides of the border) that is the problem.
 
From the Maple Leaf on my front license plate to the flags decorating my desk everyone at work and home knows we are Canadian and we certainly haven't noticed any 'anti-Canadianism' in our daily lives.

As noted elsewhere, things are blown out of proportion and played up by the media to get attention.
 
It's well past time that our politicians get a public spanking from Uncle Sam - nothing else seems to be getting their attention.  The latest debacle on BMD - support of which would have cost us nothing - is yet more proof that our government is unable and unwilling to explain to Canadians why certain things have to be done.  But then, when was the last time we saw true leadership from our political classes?

Canadians seem to think that we can piss all over the US and not have it affect us - a truly insane position when the US absorbs the vast majority of our exports, is de facto providing us with continental defence and is carrying most of the burden of keeping the terrorist idiots in their shitholes instead of running amok in North America.

Perhaps a hard reality check will cause this country to grow up and stop wallowing in adolescent petulance where the US is concerned.  Time for Dr Rice to play hardball, in my estimation - and it sounds like it's already started with the cancellation of her planned visit to Ottawa in April (notwithstanding the spin Minister Pettigrew is putting on it this morning)
 
That was just some posturing... Rice's visit is back on.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1109766837329_34/?hub=TopStories
 
I'll bet the good Dr has some talking points for our politicos and media which they would rather not hear.
 
As far as I am concerned, if the yanks have any bad taste in their mouths its with the Canadian Federal Government arseholes, not the people of Canada. I've lost count how many times I have been to the USA over the past 25 yrs alone , but 10 times to Hawaii since 1995, both in pre and post 11 Sep, and I have always been treated kindly, and I have many American friends all over the world.

Quite frankly, I am as disgusted as they are when it comes to the attitude of the Canadian federal government.

Cold beers,

Wes
 
Any reports on the levels of Canadian anti-canadianism? I'm noticing a rise in my house.
 
One must admit though, that a certain amount of the population of this great country of ours is spoiled beyond belief.
 
When I deployed to Afgh last August to take up my LO position with US forces, I was expecting a somewhat negative or dismissive reception. You know: "Iraq-dodgers", and "deserter-coddlers" and all of that. While I did see (once) some overt anti-Canadianism on satellite FOX TV, my experience with the US types of all services as well as defence civilians and contractor personnel  was universally good. I never once received a snide remark or negative comment: instead I lost count of the number of people who mentioned their relatives in Canada, their vacation in Canada, hunting in Canada, or going on ops, ex, or course with Canadians. All good. I travel in North Dakota and Minnesota occasionally and I have never detected the slightest anti-Canadianism, even at the height of the supposed "frenzy" over us not going to Iraq. I think that disliking Canadian is not on the screen of most US folks. However, if we do not want it to get on that screen, IMHO we better smarten up and start trying to earn some respect with the movers and shakers down there.

Cheers
 
I don't know if any of you caught last night's episode of the West Wing (a must see for political junkies like myself) but the show featured a cute side plot on an "incident" between the US and Canada in which hunters from both sides of the border confronted each - and the ensuing stand-off threatened to become an international incident.  

The entire segment was pure satire and I think it revealed a lot about Americans really think about Canada - a beautiful land up north populated with hunters, fishermen, some people with a French accent, abundant wildlife and towns with exotic names like Moosejaw and Medicine Hat.

In terms of our foreign policy/politics, they hardly figured in the episode except as a joke - such as when the assistant National Security adviser asks if there is a plan to invade Canada and is told by the army chief of staff that there is but hasn't been updated since 1814. Or the bow-tie wearing Canadian ambassador who tries to cut a deal to end the standoff if the president agreed to something about beef.

All tongue in cheek stuff.

But to pick up on PBI's observations, I think it says a lot about our own insecurities when we focus so much media attention on what the US thinks about us.  

I don't think most Americans really care about our stand on missile defence, and when they do think about us it's mostly with some wry amusement.

cheers, mdh
 
What about Canadian Anti-Canadianism?

I'm Canadian and have trouble reconciling the fact that I live in the same country as the people who keep re-electing the liberals.

;D
 
"Any reports on the levels of Canadian anti-canadianism? I'm noticing a rise in my house."

Ha!  I love it.

Just wait until the feds decide to act to prevent another Grow-op massacre.  You can't pick on the wackos - that would be un-Canadian.  So now there is going to be an Albertan Registry.  Yup.  Register every Albertan, all  3,000,000 of us. 

Except the wackos, they have rights, so only law-abiding Albertans will be registered.  Like the gun registry, in fact.  Only, we need some new blood.  Maybe bring back Louise Frechette - fresh from doing damage control on the oil for food thing (golly, we have Canadians all OVER that, don't we?) - and put her in charge of the Albertan registry.  Should be no problem finding some fishing village in New Brunswick to run it out of.  The software and advert contracts can go through the usual suspects in Quebec, and we can pull the money - this is all about saving lives, you understand - from the defence budget. 

I challenge you to find a single Sri Lankan Liberal campaign worker in Toronto who thinks this isn't a good idea.

Tom
 
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Wesley H. Allen said:
...I have always been treated kindly, and I have many American friends all over the world.

Quite frankly, I am as disgusted as they are when it comes to the attitude of the Canadian federal government.

lol, too true!

But remember, you reap what you sow.  Mr Dithers, are you listening?!?!?  ;)
 
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