Reserve Class A and medical care

[schart28]

It took me one year to get VAC to look after me. Since I am still in the forces, VAC can't step on the foot of the CF. What got me in VAC - Ste Anne, is the fact that as Class A, I am not considered active. For VAC is you are not active then they can treat you. They also can treat military personel but they have to be refered by DND.

Even as you say..."the CF are on the hook in any case"..well its not that case.

Geo, DGHS is the IA, as per the grievance manual.

 

[the 48th regulator]

It took me one year to get VAC to look after me. Since I am still in the forces, VAC can't step on the foot of the CF. What got me in VAC - Ste Anne, is the fact that as Class A, I am not considered active. For VAC is you are not active then they can treat you. They also can treat military personel but they have to be refered by DND.

Even as you say..."the CF are on the hook in any case"..well its not that case.

Geo, DGHS is the IA, as per the grievance manual.

WRONG, WRONG, ABSOLUTELY WRONG.

Stop spreading wrong information.  They can too step on anyone they want, and use their power to do so.  I know as I have had it done for me.  While I served, on Class A, and I was not referred to them by DND.  They approached me, and went after all documentation that DND held.

dileas

tess

 

[Fishbone Jones]

While not severely injured, I do have a claimable condition. Filed my claim with VAC, six months later, I had my equipment and monthly cheque.........and still on Cl A as we speak. VAC also found my med docs that I had been after for ten years and the CF constantly said no longer existed.

 

[geo]

While not severely injured, I do have a claimable condition. Filed my claim with VAC, six months later, I had my equipment and monthly cheque.........and still on Cl A as we speak. VAC also found my med docs that I had been after for ten years and the CF constantly said no longer existed.

Another point... IF someone in the CF claims that protected material (Medical) has been lost, ask them about the Police investigation that was conducted.  We had one instance where medical services pulled the "lost" bit on us - only to come up with the records 48 hrs after we mentioned the topic of MP investigation.

 

[schart28]

Good point. I actually asked that CF H SVCs GP Privacy O be made aware and that he looks into that disappearing information.
I'll send them a nice letter today. Actually in the MSI CF 2000-002 it also indicates to inform the SSO HSI when there is a security breache.

 

[geo]

Schart,
you really should contact "the Centre" 1-800-883-6094
talk to them.  There is no valid reason for your unit to leave you high & dry on a matter of an injury that was obtained while "in service" & "for the service".  The Centre has contacts at every level and are above the unit, Group, Command level.  They can and do cut to the chase and see that things get going - with all due haste... before the redress of grievance thing kicks in... and they will give you some answers - regardless of good or bad.

PM me when you contact them & let me know what they dig-up

 

[schart28]

Good point. I actually asked that CF H SVCs GP Privacy O be made aware and that he looks into that disappearing information.
I'll send them a nice letter today. Actually in the MSI CF 2000-002 it also indicates to inform the SSO HSI when there is a security breach.

 

[schart28]

just wanted to give you all of who provided advice with my battle with the CFMS. I have won so far. I now have the proper medical category G5O5(T) and finally the CF will medically take care of me.  It only took 16 years, a grievance, medical complaint but its now rolling.

The worst part in all of this is that they finally acknowledge that my civilian medical records were not required, but previously saying different and would not treat me because I would not provide them.

 

[the 48th regulator]

Right on Brother!

It was obviously a long hard batttle that you deserve to enjoy the victory.

Congrats

dileas

tess

 

[Petard]

I dunno George, I think I know where this fellah's coming from
Someone I know has returned from theatre (TSE) this past summer and is now back on class A, they're getting next to squat for medical assistance, and they need it but are getting resistance because they're "only" on class A now.

Just a quick update to this bit I threw out there, the person I mentioned "getting squat" has since begun getting treatment through military medical services, and is still on class A.
The wheels may turn slow sometimes, but other times they need a bit of a nudge.

 

[schart28]

May I ask from which region he is?  Was he asked to provide his civilian medical information? Did he provide it?

 

[Petard]

The Maritimes
Far as I know the person did not have to give any civilian medical records since the problem they are dealing with occurred while deployed, the health care services involved just needed a reminder of this, and the member needed to be encouraged too to not just give up (the nudge).
The point I had been making is that reservists should continue to pursue help for something that has occurred while on tour, just because they subsequently return to class A service does not mean the obligation to them stops.

 

[schart28]

I'll be solving this problem very soon. I have asked in my grievance to get a letter stating that reserve who are sick consequently to an SDA mission are entitled to me treated even if they are on Class A.

Hope fully this letter will come from either Gen Hiller, Commodore Kavanagh or BGen Jeager (CF Surg).

Once I get this, I will propagate this info everywhere I can.

 

[geo]

Shart,
The regulations are, in actual fact, quite clear on this matter.  The CF has an obligation to the member.  Unfortunately, in your case, for some reason or another, someone dropped the puck as you transited back to civy/class A service from your operational / class C service.
Within LFQA I have seen several reservists getting what you have been fighting so hard to get... it is possible that, being part of 71 Comms Gp instead of SQFT, the lines of communication got a little fuzzy.  Now that Comms Res is shutting down and returning to the mainstream army, these little boondoggles might be a thing of the past.....

As discussed earlier, keep me apraised of your progress - how you are dealt with is very pertinent to what I am doing right now - and I see no reason to reinvent the wheel - once your problem has been settled.

CHIMO!