Reserve PT

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Posted by [email protected] on Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:00:44 EST
This is primarily for Sean, but always open -
Sean, a while ago you compiled a QL2 guide for us. It was a great
help. But I remember your comments about the physical training. You said that
your buddy went from a couch potato, to someone who could run 3.5 k‘s no
problem, inside one month. You said he managed this by running as far as he
could, then walking for 3 minuteslater shortened to 2 and then repeating
the process 4 or five more times. He did this everyday, thus making him able
to run the mentioned distance inside 1 month.
But, during the winter months, it‘s very difficult to do running in the
morning at about 6:00am ,right before school and I, like so many other
recruits, already have a part time job, at which I must work usually 2/3
times a week from right after school3 till about 9:45.
So I‘m wondering how we can train so efficiently during the winter
months. In the summer, I can just get up early and do PT every morning, but
what about when the snow‘s falling? Should I just run in the snow?
Thanks.
-Matt B.
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Posted by "Harwood, Steve" <[email protected]> on Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:30:13 -0500
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Hey Matt, if you live in an apartment try running the stairs. This is an
excellent aerobic workout albeit boring, and keep up the weight training.
Pushups and situps are a must!
I am walking/running an 8km course most nights to get in shape and beat the
Christmas Cake blues.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Reserve PT
This is primarily for Sean, but always open -
Sean, a while ago you compiled a QL2 guide for us. It was a
great
help. But I remember your comments about the physical training. You said
that
your buddy went from a couch potato, to someone who could run 3.5 k‘s no
problem, inside one month. You said he managed this by running as far as he
could, then walking for 3 minuteslater shortened to 2 and then repeating
the process 4 or five more times. He did this everyday, thus making him able
to run the mentioned distance inside 1 month.
But, during the winter months, it‘s very difficult to do running in the
morning at about 6:00am ,right before school and I, like so many other
recruits, already have a part time job, at which I must work usually 2/3
times a week from right after school3 till about 9:45.
So I‘m wondering how we can train so efficiently during the winter
months. In the summer, I can just get up early and do PT every morning, but
what about when the snow‘s falling? Should I just run in the snow?
Thanks.
-Matt B.
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RE: Reserve PT
Hey Matt, if you live in an apartment try running the
stairs. This is an excellent aerobic workout albeit boring, and
keep up the weight training. Pushups and situps are a must!
I am walking/running an 8km course most nights to get
in shape and beat the Christmas Cake blues.
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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Reserve PT
This is primarily for Sean, but always open -
nb
sp Sean, a while ago you compiled a QL2 guide for us. It was a great
help. But I remember your comments about the
physical training. You said that
your buddy went from a couch potato, to someone who
could run 3.5 k‘s no
problem, inside one month. You said he managed this
by running as far as he
could, then walking for 3 minuteslater shortened to
2 and then repeating
the process 4 or five more times. He did this
everyday, thus making him able
to run the mentioned distance inside 1 month.
But, during the winter months,
it‘s very difficult to do running in the
morning at about 6:00am ,right before school and
I, like so many other
recruits, already have a part time job, at which I
must work usually 2/3
times a week from right after school3 till about
9:45.
So I‘m wondering how we can train
so efficiently during the winter
months. In the summer, I can just get up early and
do PT every morning, but
what about when the snow‘s falling? Should I just
run in the snow?
nb
sp Thanks.
nb
spnb
sp -Matt B.
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Posted by "Mason Fraser" <[email protected]> on Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:44:54 -0500
Matt,
On my last QL2 course, the instructors had us run outside almost every
morning... they especially liked the snow cause it‘s harder to run in! The
only factor that made them decide not to run was thr temp., if it was too
cold, the cold air can "burn" your lungs, causing more injury than good. So
they only ran if it was reasonable -15 or warmer
Mason
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Posted by "Pte Sean" <[email protected]> on 27 Dec 2000 20:57:43 -0000
It has been my experience that running in snow SUCKS. i generally dont run much in the winter, but yeah stairs are always good. If you have the drive to run in the snow, more power to ya. I can‘t think of any physical reason why you shouldnt run.
if you are in decent shape now, if you can run 3-5 km without much difficulty, then you should be ok if you ran, say, twice a week, just to maintain your level of fitness. im not saying dont run, im saying depending on where you live, winter can be damn cold, so if you ran a bit less i think you can get away with it, dignity intact.
but definately keep on with the pushups and situps!
Sean
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:30:13 -0500 "Harwood, Steve" wrote:
>Hey Matt, if you live in an apartment try running the stairs. This is an
>excellent aerobic workout albeit boring, and keep up the weight training.
>Pushups and situps are a must!
>
>I am walking/running an 8km course most nights to get in shape and beat the
>Christmas Cake blues.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:01 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Reserve PT
>
>
>This is primarily for Sean, but always open -
> Sean, a while ago you compiled a QL2 guide for us. It was a
>great
>help. But I remember your comments about the physical training. You said
>that
>your buddy went from a couch potato, to someone who could run 3.5 k‘s no
>problem, inside one month. You said he managed this by running as far as he
>could, then walking for 3 minuteslater shortened to 2 and then repeating
>the process 4 or five more times. He did this everyday, thus making him able
>
>to run the mentioned distance inside 1 month.
> But, during the winter months, it‘s very difficult to do running in the
>morning at about 6:00am ,right before school and I, like so many other
>recruits, already have a part time job, at which I must work usually 2/3
>times a week from right after school3 till about 9:45.
> So I‘m wondering how we can train so efficiently during the winter
>months. In the summer, I can just get up early and do PT every morning, but
>what about when the snow‘s falling? Should I just run in the snow?
> Thanks.
> -Matt B.
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Posted by [email protected] on Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:02:50 EST
ok.
that‘s pretty cool.
I want to call teh PT administratorfor lack of proper terms and set an
appointment for about April.
All that I‘ve got left is the PT Test and the interview.
If I did the test in April, and then had the interview shortly thereafter,
I‘d still be able to get on an Infantry QL2/3 for this summer, right?
-Matt B.
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Posted by "Pte Sean" <[email protected]> on 28 Dec 2000 02:10:35 -0000
Thats a tough call. I dont know exactly how they run things, but I know that I was ACCEPTED in April, and I barely got onto my QL2 which started 7 weeks later. If I were you I‘d try to do it earlier than that...say, mid Feb. Mind you if you don‘t feel you are ready to do all the testing, then its better to wait. But the test itself is nothing strenuous, so dont worry about it too much. You want to get your application all ready to go, complete with your finished interview and fitness test, while still taking into consideration that they have to run a security check on you, which from what I hear is what takes the most time. I finished all of my stuff at the beginning of March and I was sworn in April 6. They had to really move to get me onto course...i didnt know for sure when i was going until the week before i left.
All I‘m saying is its better to get it in a little early as opposed to a week too late, because it would really suck if you didnt get on course.
Sean
>ok.
>that‘s pretty cool.
>I want to call teh PT administratorfor lack of proper terms and set an
>appointment for about April.
>All that I‘ve got left is the PT Test and the interview.
>If I did the test in April, and then had the interview shortly thereafter,
>I‘d still be able to get on an Infantry QL2/3 for this summer, right?
> -Matt B.
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Posted by "Steve Harwood" <[email protected]> on Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:26:23 -0500
Matt, I echo Sean‘s advice. I did my PT two weeks ago and I passed it with
a breeze and even surprised myself. Make sure you can do your pushups and
sit-ups and get into good cardiovascular shape by doing some stairs my
earlier advice in the crummy weather. If I can do the PT anyone can. The
interview was not difficult either. Like I was told in this forum, look the
interviewer in the eyes, be sure of your answers, read up and research
Canada‘s Defence Policies, current peacekeeping engagements, and know why
you want to join. My interview lasted about 2 hours because I am going
direct entry officer.
Good Luck and be prepared.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto[email protected]]On
Behalf Of Pte Sean
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Reserve PT
Thats a tough call. I dont know exactly how they run things, but I know that
I was ACCEPTED in April, and I barely got onto my QL2 which started 7 weeks
later. If I were you I‘d try to do it earlier than that...say, mid Feb. Mind
you if you don‘t feel you are ready to do all the testing, then its better
to wait. But the test itself is nothing strenuous, so dont worry about it
too much. You want to get your application all ready to go, complete with
your finished interview and fitness test, while still taking into
consideration that they have to run a security check on you, which from what
I hear is what takes the most time. I finished all of my stuff at the
beginning of March and I was sworn in April 6. They had to really move to
get me onto course...i didnt know for sure when i was going until the week
before i left.
All I‘m saying is its better to get it in a little early as opposed to a
week too late, because it would really suck if you didnt get on course.
Sean
>ok.
>that‘s pretty cool.
>I want to call teh PT administratorfor lack of proper terms and set an
>appointment for about April.
>All that I‘ve got left is the PT Test and the interview.
>If I did the test in April, and then had the interview shortly thereafter,
>I‘d still be able to get on an Infantry QL2/3 for this summer, right?
> -Matt B.
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Posted by "Nick Butler" <[email protected]> on Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:24:45 -0500
My PT test was... well... I won‘t say a joke because it wasn‘t, but I‘ll be the first to admit that I‘ve got lots of work to do before I head off to Infantry School in May. My main problem was my ludicrous lack of coordination for reasons unknown when I did the step test. Basically it consists of walking up and down two steps to a cadence set by a tape counted off. Everything elseI got through okay, but I‘m committing myself to major improvements before I leave for RESO Ph. 1 in May. I‘m planning a broad mix of weight and non-weight strength training, mixed with my penchant for martial arts, and I have to get some cold weather gear to start running because I sorely lack it. I‘m going trekking in Costa Rica for a while in February as well to bolster my endurance I‘ll be doing plenty of long hikes with a respectable pack load and such, and I figure that will help out. I was jokingly instructed to set up the Regiment‘s Jungle Warfare School while I‘m there during the Men‘s Mess Dinner last week...
In any case, to all those preparing for the tests, just relax, get lots of sleep, and don‘t stress about it. In the interviews just look over what Mr. Harwood mentioned, be sure to make lots of eye contact and practice answers to questions you think you‘re likely to be asked.
For whoever was interested in hearing our progress as we join, right now I‘m waiting for Brigade to get stood back up from holidays so that the last of my paperwork comes through, the Regt. expects to enrol me fully in early January, and I will be starting a pre-study course shortly thereafter with6 others preparing for a career as an officer... being myself, a second RESO Officer Cadet, a DEO, two NCM‘s going to RMC next year, and two two SNCO‘s who are being commissioned.
I‘ll keep anyone interested posted of future developments.
Paratus,
Nick
gtFrom: "Steve Harwood"
gtReply-To: [email protected]
gtTo:
gtSubject: RE: Reserve PT
gtDate: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:26:23 -0500
gt
gtMatt, I echo Sean‘s advice. I did my PT two weeks ago and I passed it with
gta breeze and even surprised myself. Make sure you can do your pushups and
gtsit-ups and get into good cardiovascular shape by doing some stairs my
gtearlier advice in the crummy weather. If I can do the PT anyone can. The
gtinterview was not difficult either. Like I was told in this forum, look the
gtinterviewer in the eyes, be sure of your answers, read up and research
gtCanada‘s Defence Policies, current peacekeeping engagements, and know why
gtyou want to join. My interview lasted about 2 hours because I am going
gtdirect entry officer.
gt
gtGood Luck and be prepared.
gt
gtSteve
gt
gt-----Original Message-----
gtFrom: [email protected] [mailto[email protected]]On
gtBehalf Of Pte Sean
gtSent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:11 PM
gtTo: [email protected]
gtSubject: Re: Reserve PT
gt
gt
gtThats a tough call. I dont know exactly how they run things, but I know that
gtI was ACCEPTED in April, and I barely got onto my QL2 which started 7 weeks
gtlater. If I were you I‘d try to do it earlier than that...say, mid Feb. Mind
gtyou if you don‘t feel you are ready to do all the testing, then its better
gtto wait. But the test itself is nothing strenuous, so dont worry about it
gttoo much. You want to get your application all ready to go, complete with
gtyour finished interview and fitness test, while still taking into
gtconsideration that they have to run a security check on you, which from what
gtI hear is what takes the most time. I finished all of my stuff at the
gtbeginning of March and I was sworn in April 6. They had to really move to
gtget me onto course...i didnt know for sure when i was going until the week
gtbefore i left.
gt
gtAll I‘m saying is its better to get it in a little early as opposed to a
gtweek too late, because it would really suck if you didnt get on course.
gtSean
gt
gt
gt gtok.
gt gtthat‘s pretty cool.
gt gtI want to call teh PT administratorfor lack of proper terms and set an
gt gtappointment for about April.
gt gtAll that I‘ve got left is the PT Test and the interview.
gt gtIf I did the test in April, and then had the interview shortly thereafter,
gt gtI‘d still be able to get on an Infantry QL2/3 for this summer, right?
gt gt -Matt B.
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Posted by "Steve Harwood" <[email protected]> on Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:29:03 -0500
Nick, I‘d be interested in how you make out. I laughed when you mentioned
about your coordination problem with the stairs. I hadn‘t done any stairs
test since highschool and I am not the greatest dancer either. I had
prepared myself aerobically but did not know how I would be able to manage
the cadence. The fellow before me was a police officer getting into the
reserves. I thought that he‘d be in shape already so I was listening to the
taped cadence while he was in the next room. After 15 minutes of the stairs
he came out drenched, red-faced, and his tongue was hanging out. This
really psyched me out and I began to wonder why I was there, questioning
myself, was I ready for the PT. I had a bad cold for about 6 weeks
Oct-Nov and couldn‘t run for this period, but in early Nov I started
jogging, did the 2.4 km test as a yardstick, and really worked hard on the
situps, pushups, and stairs I live on the 11th floor. Sean, the technique
for pushups is absolutely important. Note that your arms must be directly
below your shoulders. The preparation I did sure did the trick. But Nick
you‘re experience made me laugh.
I am waiting for some medical stuff to arrive at the MO so I can proceed to
my officer board meeting at the armoury. Still a little more to do but it
sure gets you excited. My thanks to all on the list who have helped me so
far. Good luck Nick, Sean!
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto[email protected]]On
Behalf Of Nick Butler
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Reserve PT
My PT test was... well... I won‘t say a joke because it wasn‘t, but I‘ll
be the first to admit that I‘ve got lots of work to do before I head off to
Infantry School in May. My main problem was my ludicrous lack of
coordination for reasons unknown when I did the step test. Basically it
consists of walking up and down two steps to a cadence set by a tape counted
off. Everything else I got through okay, but I‘m committing myself to major
improvements before I leave for RESO Ph. 1 in May. I‘m planning a broad mix
of weight and non-weight strength training, mixed with my penchant for
martial arts, and I have to get some cold weather gear to start running
because I sorely lack it. I‘m going trekking in Costa Rica for a while in
February as well to bolster my endurance I‘ll be doing plenty of long hikes
with a respectable pack load and such, and I figure that will help out. I
was jokingly instructed to set up the Regiment‘s Jung! le Warfare School
while I‘m there during the Men‘s Mess Dinner last week...
In any case, to all those preparing for the tests, just relax, get lots of
sleep, and don‘t stress about it. In the interviews just look over what Mr.
Harwood mentioned, be sure to make lots of eye contact and practice answers
to questions you think you‘re likely to be asked.
For whoever was interested in hearing our progress as we join, right now
I‘m waiting for Brigade to get stood back up from holidays so that the last
of my paperwork comes through, the Regt. expects to enrol me fully in early
January, and I will be starting a pre-study course shortly thereafter with 6
others preparing for a career as an officer... being myself, a second RESO
Officer Cadet, a DEO, two NCM‘s going to RMC next year, and two two SNCO‘s
who are being commissioned.
I‘ll keep anyone interested posted of future developments.
Paratus,
Nick
>From: "Steve Harwood"
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To:
>Subject: RE: Reserve PT
>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:26:23 -0500
>
>Matt, I echo Sean‘s advice. I did my PT two weeks ago and I passed it
with
>a breeze and even surprised myself. Make sure you can do your pushups and
>sit-ups and get into good cardiovascular shape by doing some stairs my
>earlier advice in the crummy weather. If I can do the PT anyone can. The
>interview was not difficult either. Like I was told in this forum, look
the
>interviewer in the eyes, be sure of your answers, read up and research
>Canada‘s Defence Policies, current peacekeeping engagements, and know why
>you want to join. My interview lasted about 2 hours because I am going
>direct entry officer.
>
>Good Luck and be prepared.
>
>Steve
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto[email protected]]On
>Behalf Of Pte Sean
>Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:11 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Reserve PT
>
>
>Thats a tough call. I dont know exactly how they run things, but I know
that
>I was ACCEPTED in April, and I barely got onto my QL2 which started 7
weeks
>later. If I were you I‘d try to do it earlier than that...say, mid Feb.
Mind
>you if you don‘t feel you are ready to do all the testing, then its
better
>to wait. But the test itself is nothing strenuous, so dont worry about it
>too much. You want to get your application all ready to go, complete with
>your finished interview and fitness test, while still taking into
>consideration that they have to run a security check on you, which from
what
>I hear is what takes the most time. I finished all of my stuff at the
>beginning of March and I was sworn in April 6. They had to really move to
>get me onto course...i didnt know for sure when i was going until the
week
>before i left.
>
>All I‘m saying is its better to get it in a little early as opposed to a
>week too late, because it would really suck if you didnt get on course.
>Sean
>
>
> >ok.
> >that‘s pretty cool.
> >I want to call teh PT administratorfor lack of proper terms and set
an
> >appointment for about April.
> >All that I‘ve got left is the PT Test and the interview.
> >If I did the test in April, and then had the interview shortly
thereafter,
> >I‘d still be able to get on an Infantry QL2/3 for this summer, right?
> > -Matt B.
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Nick,
I‘d be interested in how you make out. I laughed when you
mentioned about
your coordination problem with the stairs. I hadn‘t done any stairs test
since
highschool and I am not the greatest dancer either. I had prepared
myself
aerobically but did not know how I would be able to manage the
cadence.
The fellow before me was a police officer getting into the reserves. I
thought
that he‘d be in shape already so I was listening to the taped cadence
while he
was in the next room. After 15 minutes of the stairs he came out
drenched,
red-faced, and his tongue was hanging out. This really psyched me
out and
I began to wonder why I was there, questioningmyself, was I ready
for the
PT. I had a bad cold for about 6 weeks Oct-Nov and couldn‘t run
for this
period, but in early Nov I started jogging, did the 2.4 km test as a
yardstick,
and really worked hard on the situps, pushups, and stairs I live on
the 11th
floor. Sean, the technique for pushups is absolutely important.
Note that
your arms must be directly below your shoulders. The preparation I did
sure did
the trick.But Nick you‘re experience made me
laugh.
I am
waiting for some medical stuff to arrive at the MO so I can proceed to
my
officer board meeting at the armoury. Still a little more to do
but it
sure gets you excited. My thanks to all on the list who have
helped me so
far. Good luck Nick, Sean!
Steve
-----Original Message-----From:
[email protected]
[mailto[email protected]]On Behalf Of Nick
ButlerSent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:25
PMTo:
[email protected]: RE: Reserve
PT
My PT test was... well... I won‘t say a joke because it wasn‘t,
but I‘ll
be the first to admit that I‘ve got lots of work to do before I head
off to
Infantry School in May. My main problem was my ludicrous lack of
coordination for reasons unknown when I did the step test.
Basically
it consists of walking up and down two steps to a cadence set by a
tape
counted off. Everything elseI got through okay, but I‘m
committing
myself to major improvements before I leave for RESO Ph. 1 in
May. I‘m
planning a broad mix of weight and non-weight strength training, mixed
with my
penchant for martial arts, and I have to get some cold weather gear to
start
running because I sorely lack it. I‘m going trekking in Costa
Rica for a
while in February as well to bolster my endurance I‘ll be doing
plenty of
long hikes with a respectable pack load and such, and I figure that
will help
out. I was jokingly instructed to set up the Regiment‘s Jung! le
Warfare
School while I‘m there during the Men‘s Mess Dinner last week...

In any case, to all those preparing for the tests, just relax,
get lots
of sleep, and don‘t stress about it. In the interviews just look
over
what Mr. Harwood mentioned, be sure to make lots of eye contact and
practice
answers to questions you think you‘re likely to be asked.

For whoever was interested in hearing our progress as we join,
right now
I‘m waiting for Brigade to get stood back up from holidays so that the
last of
my paperwork comes through, the Regt. expects to enrol me fully in
early
January, and I will be starting a pre-study course shortly thereafter
with6 others preparing for a career as an officer... being
myself, a
second RESO Officer Cadet, a DEO, two NCM‘s going to RMC next year,
and two
two SNCO‘s who are being commissioned.

I‘ll keep anyone interested posted of future developments.

Paratus,

Nick



gtFrom: "Steve Harwood"
gtReply-To: [email protected]
gtTo:
gtSubject: RE: Reserve PT
gtDate: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:26:23 -0500
gt
gtMatt, I echo Sean‘s advice. I did my PT two weeks ago
and I
passed it with
gta breeze and even surprised myself. Make sure you can
do your
pushups and
gtsit-ups and get into good cardiovascular shape by doing
some
stairs my
gtearlier advice in the crummy weather. If I can do the
PT
anyone can. The
gtinterview was not difficult either. Like I was told in
this
forum, look the
gtinterviewer in the eyes, be sure of your answers, read
up and
research
gtCanada‘s Defence Policies, current peacekeeping
engagements,
and know why
gtyou want to join. My interview lasted about 2 hours
because I
am going
gtdirect entry officer.
gt
gtGood Luck and be prepared.
gt
gtSteve
gt
gt-----Original Message-----
gtFrom: [email protected]
[mailto[email protected]]On
gtBehalf Of Pte Sean
gtSent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:11 PM
gtTo: [email protected]
gtSubject: Re: Reserve PT
gt
gt
gtThats a tough call. I dont know exactly how they run
things,
but I know that
gtI was ACCEPTED in April, and I barely got onto my QL2
which
started 7 weeks
gtlater. If I were you I‘d try to do it earlier than
that...say,
mid Feb. Mind
gtyou if you don‘t feel you are ready to do all the
testing, then
its better
gtto wait. But the test itself is nothing strenuous, so
dont
worry about it
gttoo much. You want to get your application all ready to
go,
complete with
gtyour finished interview and fitness test, while still
taking
into
gtconsideration that they have to run a security check on
you,
which from what
gtI hear is what takes the most time. I finished all of
my stuff
at the
gtbeginning of March and I was sworn in April 6. They had
to
really move to
gtget me onto course...i didnt know for sure when i was
going
until the week
gtbefore i left.
gt
gtAll I‘m saying is its better to get it in a little
early as
opposed to a
gtweek too late, because it would really suck if you
didnt get on
course.
gtSean
gt
gt
gt gtok.
gt gtthat‘s pretty cool.
gt gtI want to call teh PT administratorfor lack of
proper
terms and set an
gt gtappointment for about April.
gt gtAll that I‘ve got left is the PT Test and the
interview.
gt gtIf I did the test in April, and then had the
interview
shortly thereafter,
gt gtI‘d still be able to get on an Infantry QL2/3 for
this
summer, right?
gt gt -Matt B.
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Posted by Derrick Forsythe <[email protected]> on Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:35:30 -0700
I‘ve seen the timetable for the new 16 day QL2 - PO 408 PT has been removed
- - there is no longer any requirement for soldiers to meet any physical
training requirements as part of their QL2 training.
but keep working out - I haven‘t heard of any movement to take PT out fo the
3s and up.....
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Posted by "Nick Butler" <[email protected]> on Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:48:20 -0500
Related to the subject of pushups, make sure that you know the technique
that will be expected when you do the test itself, and in my case we were
not required to put our chests to the ground fully, just to reach the point
at which the elbow forms a right-angle with the floor. When you "practise"
them, use this technique, but you will find the changing the direction in
which your hands point, ie inward, outward, etc will help to target
muscles differently and provide a more thorough work out. I generally do
three sets a night before I go to bed, one of "standard" ie CF style, one
with fingers point in almost but not quite interlocked, and one on my
knuckles which I find most easy, oddly enough, we do so many in my martial
arts and I find they strain the wrist less.
As I mentioned, I am planning on taking up running shortly, though I think
it will be of the treadmill variety until it gets warmer, and I do a variety
of cardio-boosting activities as well, all of which I will increase.
At the dinner I made the mistake of telling a WO who was giving me advice
that I‘d "start running when it gets warm enough", to which he smirkingly
replied, "what do you mean, it‘s a balmy -20 out there, that‘s about good
enough, isn‘t it?" He happens to be the only reservist I have ever seen who
has all his Goretex kit, so I guess it suffices for him!!!
I wish I still had my old apartment for the stairs, but I life in a shared
house right now, but Peterborough‘s full of lovely hills I‘ll soon be
running up and down, and there‘s always steppers. I don‘t expect I‘ll be
the absolute fittest in my serial this summer, because in all honesty I‘m
not in the best shape... yet. By the time I leave I want to settle
comfortably into the middle of the pack and build up from there, and just
keep my head in the game for the whole summer.
Which brings me to one other piece of advice passed to me from a friend who
took the BUD/S U.S. Navy SEAL selection... He told me to keep goals
simple. Don‘t set your goal as making it through a course as a whole. He
set simple, accomplishable goals, being to make it to the next meal. This
was the only set of goals he used, and it made everything break down into
simple, manageable sections. It worked, though unfortunately he was RTU‘d
due to an injury tore a tendon.
Best of luck to all on course in the near future, and happy holidays and New
Year to all.
Paratus
Nick Butler
>From: "Steve Harwood"
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To:
>Subject: RE: Reserve PT
>Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:29:03 -0500
>
>Nick, I‘d be interested in how you make out. I laughed when you mentioned
>about your coordination problem with the stairs. I hadn‘t done any stairs
>test since highschool and I am not the greatest dancer either. I had
>prepared myself aerobically but did not know how I would be able to manage
>the cadence. The fellow before me was a police officer getting into the
>reserves. I thought that he‘d be in shape already so I was listening to the
>taped cadence while he was in the next room. After 15 minutes of the
>stairs
>he came out drenched, red-faced, and his tongue was hanging out. This
>really psyched me out and I began to wonder why I was there, questioning
>myself, was I ready for the PT. I had a bad cold for about 6 weeks
>Oct-Nov and couldn‘t run for this period, but in early Nov I started
>jogging, did the 2.4 km test as a yardstick, and really worked hard on the
>situps, pushups, and stairs I live on the 11th floor. Sean, the
>technique
>for pushups is absolutely important. Note that your arms must be directly
>below your shoulders. The preparation I did sure did the trick. But Nick
>you‘re experience made me laugh.
>
>I am waiting for some medical stuff to arrive at the MO so I can proceed to
>my officer board meeting at the armoury. Still a little more to do but it
>sure gets you excited. My thanks to all on the list who have helped me so
>far. Good luck Nick, Sean!
>
>Steve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto[email protected]]On
>Behalf Of Nick Butler
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:25 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Reserve PT
>
>
> My PT test was... well... I won‘t say a joke because it wasn‘t, but I‘ll
>be the first to admit that I‘ve got lots of work to do before I head off to
>Infantry School in May. My main problem was my ludicrous lack of
>coordination for reasons unknown when I did the step test. Basically it
>consists of walking up and down two steps to a cadence set by a tape
>counted
>off. Everything else I got through okay, but I‘m committing myself to
>major
>improvements before I leave for RESO Ph. 1 in May. I‘m planning a broad
>mix
>of weight and non-weight strength training, mixed with my penchant for
>martial arts, and I have to get some cold weather gear to start running
>because I sorely lack it. I‘m going trekking in Costa Rica for a while in
>February as well to bolster my endurance I‘ll be doing plenty of long
>hikes
>with a respectable pack load and such, and I figure that will help out. I
>was jokingly instructed to set up the Regiment‘s Jung! le Warfare School
>while I‘m there during the Men‘s Mess Dinner last week...
>
> In any case, to all those preparing for the tests, just relax, get lots
>of
>sleep, and don‘t stress about it. In the interviews just look over what
>Mr.
>Harwood mentioned, be sure to make lots of eye contact and practice answers
>to questions you think you‘re likely to be asked.
>
> For whoever was interested in hearing our progress as we join, right now
>I‘m waiting for Brigade to get stood back up from holidays so that the last
>of my paperwork comes through, the Regt. expects to enrol me fully in early
>January, and I will be starting a pre-study course shortly thereafter with
>6
>others preparing for a career as an officer... being myself, a second RESO
>Officer Cadet, a DEO, two NCM‘s going to RMC next year, and two two SNCO‘s
>who are being commissioned.
>
> I‘ll keep anyone interested posted of future developments.
>
> Paratus,
>
> Nick
>
>
> >From: "Steve Harwood"
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To:
> >Subject: RE: Reserve PT
> >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:26:23 -0500
> >
> >Matt, I echo Sean‘s advice. I did my PT two weeks ago and I passed it
>with
> >a breeze and even surprised myself. Make sure you can do your pushups
>and
> >sit-ups and get into good cardiovascular shape by doing some stairs my
> >earlier advice in the crummy weather. If I can do the PT anyone can.
>The
> >interview was not difficult either. Like I was told in this forum, look
>the
> >interviewer in the eyes, be sure of your answers, read up and research
> >Canada‘s Defence Policies, current peacekeeping engagements, and know
>why
> >you want to join. My interview lasted about 2 hours because I am going
> >direct entry officer.
> >
> >Good Luck and be prepared.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected] [mailto[email protected]]On
> >Behalf Of Pte Sean
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 9:11 PM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: Reserve PT
> >
> >
> >Thats a tough call. I dont know exactly how they run things, but I know
>that
> >I was ACCEPTED in April, and I barely got onto my QL2 which started 7
>weeks
> >later. If I were you I‘d try to do it earlier than that...say, mid Feb.
>Mind
> >you if you don‘t feel you are ready to do all the testing, then its
>better
> >to wait. But the test itself is nothing strenuous, so dont worry about
>it
> >too much. You want to get your application all ready to go, complete
>with
> >your finished interview and fitness test, while still taking into
> >consideration that they have to run a security check on you, which from
>what
> >I hear is what takes the most time. I finished all of my stuff at the
> >beginning of March and I was sworn in April 6. They had to really move
>to
> >get me onto course...i didnt know for sure when i was going until the
>week
> >before i left.
> >
> >All I‘m saying is its better to get it in a little early as opposed to
>a
> >week too late, because it would really suck if you didnt get on course.
> >Sean
> >
> >
> > >ok.
> > >that‘s pretty cool.
> > >I want to call teh PT administratorfor lack of proper terms and set
>an
> > >appointment for about April.
> > >All that I‘ve got left is the PT Test and the interview.
> > >If I did the test in April, and then had the interview shortly
>thereafter,
> > >I‘d still be able to get on an Infantry QL2/3 for this summer, right?
> > > -Matt B.
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Posted by "C.M. Crawford" <[email protected]> on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 01:31:30 -0500
Derrick is right, PT is not part of the new QL2. along with that the NBC
aspect has been removed as well and many of the boring administrative
lectures have been removed also. In fact everything was shortened except the
C7, 10 aditional hours have been added to that.
For anyone going on their QL2 I wouldn‘t be to concerned with PT,I cant help
but smile when I hear everyone talking about the fitness test, for the most
part your getting worked up for nothing , as long as you can walk up the
stairs of the armory you should be able to pass the test, its basically
designed to keep people out that are gorssly out of shape, or have medical
problems that they didnt disclose.
It reminds me of when I got my physical done. my buddy went in just before
me and when he came out he hinted that they checked his prostate. I almost
turned around and left that very second. But it turns out I got all excited
about nothing.
dont take my coments as a reason to stop doing PT , it has to do with
personal pride , you can tell who really wants to be there by who does the
extra work, the extra PT and studying you do on your own time is what
seperates you from the other. Plus you instructors notice it, and that
reflects well on your assesments.
good luck
chris
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Posted by "The MacFarlanes‘" <[email protected]> on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 08:16:07 -0700
Guys- I agree with Mr Crawford
I‘ve made a similar comment before, but will reiterate it again. I know you
soon to be soldiers are anxious, excited, worried, etc. That being said,
gleaning every single detail possible is not going to help much. Every
course is different, every instructor is different, and this crap is going
to bother you more, if you are counting on these little details, and
something changes.. "Oh My God!!!!! Tom said we only had to be able to do 25
push-ups, and the instructor says we have to do 30!!!!!" I know standards
have gone up and down over the years. I will tell you this - I have been a
"little heavy" most of my life. I like to think I was an excellent soldier
overall, and topped many of my courses, or was in the top one-third, or
whatever. Courses aside, I performed my jobs very well. I have always been
challenged by PT. The one point in my life that I was relatively in
shape.. I was playing rugby... I still didn‘t like PT. Granted, now that I‘m
getting a little older, I wish I had been more athletic over the years...so,
I am not suggesting you all become "lay-backers" and "round-boys". It is
good to prepare in any fashion. I just think some of you are expending huge
amounts of energy, to get every little detail, that, once you are on your
course, will be of very little actual value. You need to want to do this.
You need to have pride in yourself, and your unit. Your focus has to be
encompassing, as opposed to tiny details. Not trying to be a downer, not
saying you should not prepare at all. Just saying that your frame of mind is
the most important thing, in my opinion. As an instructor, I was always
amused by candidates who came into the course, thinking they had an edge,
because they had so much information gathered from prior courses. I think,
frankly, it may create a false confidence in some.Good luck. As usual, my
opinions only.
Ubique
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Posted by "Nick Butler" <[email protected]> on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 11:09:48 -0500
As usual, Mr. McFarlane, I find your remarks most interesting and
insightful. I‘ll be the first myself to admit that I wish I were in better
shape, I always have, and like you, I was at my peak playing rugby in
highschool... Coached by a vile Scotsman who believed that even -20 and a
foot of snow on the ground was "a greaht day fer roogby football...", it was
the only time I made running a common practise for myself. My goal is not
to overtrain, but to arrive in Gagetown this summer in such a state as to be
able to enjoy to the extent possible PT and challenge myself with it. I‘m
actually looking forwrd to workouts which are a little less physically
punishing than those which are part of my training in kung fu. My kund fu
teacher believes in following much of the exercise regimen he was taught in
China years ago, it works very well but much of it requires generous use of
Tiger Balm afterward!
I most want to make sure I represent not only myself, but my regiment well
on the course, so I neither want to be a slacker nor the arrogant pack
leader. I‘m going to give it my best and hope it works well.
Incidentally, for the interest of all, today‘s National Post noted that DND
has inked a $113-million deal with a Winnipeg firm to produce "outdoor
clothing", which I suspect means the new "tease-the-soldier" gear is finally
going to start appearing before too long.
Paratus
N.
>From: "The MacFarlanes‘"
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To:
>Subject: Re: Reserve PT
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 08:16:07 -0700
>
>Guys- I agree with Mr Crawford
>I‘ve made a similar comment before, but will reiterate it again. I know you
>soon to be soldiers are anxious, excited, worried, etc. That being said,
>gleaning every single detail possible is not going to help much. Every
>course is different, every instructor is different, and this crap is going
>to bother you more, if you are counting on these little details, and
>something changes.. "Oh My God!!!!! Tom said we only had to be able to do
>25
>push-ups, and the instructor says we have to do 30!!!!!" I know standards
>have gone up and down over the years. I will tell you this - I have been a
>"little heavy" most of my life. I like to think I was an excellent soldier
>overall, and topped many of my courses, or was in the top one-third, or
>whatever. Courses aside, I performed my jobs very well. I have always been
>challenged by PT. The one point in my life that I was relatively in
>shape.. I was playing rugby... I still didn‘t like PT. Granted, now that
>I‘m
>getting a little older, I wish I had been more athletic over the
>years...so,
>I am not suggesting you all become "lay-backers" and "round-boys". It is
>good to prepare in any fashion. I just think some of you are expending huge
>amounts of energy, to get every little detail, that, once you are on your
>course, will be of very little actual value. You need to want to do this.
>You need to have pride in yourself, and your unit. Your focus has to be
>encompassing, as opposed to tiny details. Not trying to be a downer, not
>saying you should not prepare at all. Just saying that your frame of mind
>is
>the most important thing, in my opinion. As an instructor, I was always
>amused by candidates who came into the course, thinking they had an edge,
>because they had so much information gathered from prior courses. I think,
>frankly, it may create a false confidence in some.Good luck. As usual, my
>opinions only.
>Ubique
>MacFarlane
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Posted by [email protected] on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:21:23 EST
>From the perspective of an ‘almost new recruit‘, all of your comments were
most helpful.
I guess the whole idea now is for us newbies to just shut up, work hard, go
home and go to bed. Not to oversimplify, but I think I should take that
approach a little more often, myself.
In no other place have I ever found myself in such good hands as I am now.
Some of you old soldiers seem to have a way to cut through the bullsh*t and
say what needs to be said, without making usme feel like complete asses.
Much appreciated.
Thanks, all.
-Matt B.

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Posted by "Mason Fraser" <[email protected]> on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:59:36 -0500
Okay, for anyone doing the PT test to get into the CF, don‘t get worried!
They make you walk up and down a little step unit until your heart rate is
up... they aren‘t trying to kill you, just raise your heart rate, then, in
order to calculate your aerobic capacity, they time how long it takes for
you to get from your target heart rate back down to resting heart rate... if
it takes a REALLY long time then you aren‘t physically fit... and vice versa
if you are. Don‘t ask me the times, It‘s all put into an equation the
considers your height, age, weight, etc. so it‘s different for every person,
and I also don‘t know the exact equation.
The point is, that it‘s not a hard test there is NOTHING to worry about.
Just keep in mind that for the push ups, and situps, they are not looking
for the bare minimum, so do as many as you possibly can, don‘t just stop
when you reach the cut off! The whole thing will be over before you reall
realize it!
Mason
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Posted by "Mason Fraser" <[email protected]> on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 13:13:33 -0500
Okay let‘s look at the big picture here for a second. PT will always be a
part of the Army. However, in spite of its importance, it is only a very
small part of your day as a soldier. It‘s not worth letting 40 mintues to 1
hour of your day that is spent doing PT on a course bring down the whole
day. It‘s important not to get pessimistic about PT, it‘s easy to see the
glass as "half-empty" and see being in the Army as having to get up and run
every morning. You seriously have to see the glass as "half-full" and
realize that that hour doing PT, is all you have to get through to do some
pretty cool stuff for the rest of the day.
Let‘s face it, I sucked at PT... I could keep up, but it was because I kept
my mind on what I wanted to do that made it go by fast.
Mason
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Posted by Derrick Forsythe <[email protected]> on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:25:41 -0700
PT can be incorporated into any program by conducting the training prior to
the start of formal lectures - it‘s a great wake-up, but it‘s gone, and I‘m
guessing it will be verbotten for QL2 candidates - period
> -----Original Message-----
> From:Mason Fraser [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent:Friday, December 29, 2000 11:14 AM
> To:[email protected]
> Subject:Re: Reserve PT
>
> Okay let‘s look at the big picture here for a second. PT will always be a
>
> part of the Army. However, in spite of its importance, it is only a very
> small part of your day as a soldier. It‘s not worth letting 40 mintues to
> 1
> hour of your day that is spent doing PT on a course bring down the whole
> day. It‘s important not to get pessimistic about PT, it‘s easy to see the
>
> glass as "half-empty" and see being in the Army as having to get up and
> run
> every morning. You seriously have to see the glass as "half-full" and
> realize that that hour doing PT, is all you have to get through to do some
>
> pretty cool stuff for the rest of the day.
>
> Let‘s face it, I sucked at PT... I could keep up, but it was because I
> kept
> my mind on what I wanted to do that made it go by fast.
>
> Mason
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Posted by "Peter deVries" <[email protected]> on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:12:35
A lot of great advice here. But I think the main thing that instructors want
to see is drive. A soldier has to have motivation. If you give 100 percent
of what YOU have during PT, things will go fine. People are judged by an
individual standard when it comes to PT. As long as they see you pushing
yourself, you‘ll be fine.
I think that somehow, someone will find time to do PT on QL2.
Peter
>From: Derrick Forsythe
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: "‘[email protected]‘"
>Subject: RE: Reserve PT
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 12:25:41 -0700
>
>PT can be incorporated into any program by conducting the training prior to
>the start of formal lectures - it‘s a great wake-up, but it‘s gone, and I‘m
>guessing it will be verbotten for QL2 candidates - period
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:Mason Fraser [SMTP:[email protected]]
> > Sent:Friday, December 29, 2000 11:14 AM
> > To:[email protected]
> > Subject:Re: Reserve PT
> >
> > Okay let‘s look at the big picture here for a second. PT will always be
>a
> >
> > part of the Army. However, in spite of its importance, it is only a
>very
> > small part of your day as a soldier. It‘s not worth letting 40 mintues
>to
> > 1
> > hour of your day that is spent doing PT on a course bring down the whole
> > day. It‘s important not to get pessimistic about PT, it‘s easy to see
>the
> >
> > glass as "half-empty" and see being in the Army as having to get up and
> > run
> > every morning. You seriously have to see the glass as "half-full" and
> > realize that that hour doing PT, is all you have to get through to do
>some
> >
> > pretty cool stuff for the rest of the day.
> >
> > Let‘s face it, I sucked at PT... I could keep up, but it was because I
> > kept
> > my mind on what I wanted to do that made it go by fast.
> >
> > Mason
> >
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Posted by "dave" <[email protected]> on Fri, 29 Dec 2000 15:16:27 -0800
What you must keep in mind is, even though formal PT is only 1 hour, the
rest of your job is physical as well. The better shape you‘re in, the
easier it is to get through every physically challenging task. You may only
run 5 km in the morning, but you may have to dig a trench, fill sand bags,
etc..........You may not have enough time to eat properly, so the more fit
you are, the more efficiently you use you body reserves.......
As a Field Engineer, it was nothing to do our morning run, then turn around
and build a bridge...Bailey...EWBB...Some days we ran back from our
training area, after a day of building OP‘s....
No one was ever told they were in too good a shape......At first I couldn‘t
move after training, but at the end of BTT, I was able to almost function
normally......
I always wished I prepared more, and ran more prior to starting my course...
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