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jerrythunder

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hi guy's im a new member here and i was wondering, when i enlist and pass the beat test and all the other necessairy tests, what happens after that? do i get to participate in live fire exercises? do i get to travel to other parts of the country? i mean im only just 15 right now but i turn 16 this march and i wish to enlist at the beginning of the summer. what will happen?
i was just wondering! thanks for your time!  :cdn:
 
First you will do BMQ. Basic Military Qualification for 14 weekends after being sworen in. I am doing it now. It's two weekends a month from Friday night to Sunday night. It is a mix of classroom lectures on militray law, weopons training on the C7. (yes you will get to hold the rifle we even sleep with it). You will get up at 4:45 a.m. and go running, you will then have a 30 second shower, be inspected and head off to classroom lectures where you will learn Canadian army rank structure, rifle firing techniques, drill - right turn left turn all that crap. You will learn how to wear the uniform and how to maintain your kit, and you will get a lot of kit. Helmet, webbing, long johns, sleeping bag, webbing, etc etc, You will have one weekend where you fire live ammo. Mine is in March. You learn how to read a map, and all those great army abbreviations like BMQ, QM, SQ, SOP etc etc. Each weekend you will have a short test on the previous material. Relax and listen to what you are told. It's hard but when you go home on Sunday you will think that is really cool. The first 4 weekends are the hardest. They try to get rid of the guys you just don't want to be in the army.

Cheers
 
xterra rat, theres two types of BMQ Reservists can do, the weekend one which your doing and the full time one in the summer(mine was 5 weeks).
 
check out www.argylls.ca and go to unit op training (left navigation bar) and individual training (centre nav console) -- this may help a little in your search.
 
Which element are you joining..ie Air, land, sea... and what occupation ie. Infantry, stewart..ect
Depending on what you decide to be will depend on how much training you get and how hard its going to be.

BMQ is the same for every element, except in my expirence I was in a platoon with all Infantry and odly enough only 1 stewart, and 1 tech. Needless to say our instructors, made it clear they were pushing us harder then any other platoon on course at the time, becuase they were trying to get us ready for the rest of our training to come.

I still didnt find it (BMQ) to be that hard physically, sure we did lots and lots and pushups, situps and running, but even those if you prepare are easy.Man I hated the day we got all our kit though ;). I think the parts of basic that I found difficult was trying to stay awake  in class sometimes, (i'm sure a handful of you know what i'm talking bout) all the cleaning (I swear they're vents hooked up to the dryer or somthing becuase everyday there's an abundance of lint everywhere) and the sowing.... ::)

Although I greaty enjoyed the expirence, I had a freakin blast! I'm not to sure how close BMQ for reserves is similar to regular force BMQ. The reg BMQ is 10 weeks and apparently reserves is only 6 weeks?
 
*Grunt said:
........... and the sowing.... ::)

Although I greaty enjoyed the expirence, I had a freakin blast! I'm not to sure how close BMQ for reserves is similar to regular force BMQ. The reg BMQ is 10 weeks and apparently reserves is only 6 weeks?


Out of curiosity....were you planting Wheat or Corn or something else?    ;D

GW
 
haha yea i'm sorry its early here and I shouldve did a spell check before posting..thank you for pointing that out though.
 
well thanks for the posts and advise guy's. i have some more questions tho. um im going for the basic infantry and i am wondering how that 14 weekend thing works. do i go somewhere to train? my local unit is in Cornwall Ontario called the Glengarry Highlanders.
 
Check with your unit recruiting NCO or Officer -- they should be able to provide you with all the details on either the summer or fall/winter BMQ and SQ courses in your area.
 
*Grunt said:
You'll most likely be going to St. Jean but dont quote me.

Reg Force goto St Jean, while reservists can go almost anywhere to do theirs.
 
ok well sorry for the inaccurate info, i've only reg expirence..
 
I believe that as a member of the Canadian Army every individual should receive their SQ training. (my opinion)
Concerning your question I think some unit allow you to train with them even if you are not SQ qualified, they just give you GD to do until you are SQ trained.
 
As an infanteer from what info i've gathered you do BMQ, then SQ/BIQ then.... you get posted with your regiment...this topic I find is very informative on this subject please read it!

http://army.ca/forums/threads/1254.0.html
 
Let's see... it's been a few years since I did this, but I'll be coming back in (grievance finally settled - yay! not in my favour - boo!) and parading with the Glens (SD&G Highlanders) as well.

Way back when (insert your favourite cliché about "how long ago" here) - when I first joined the Muh-lissha, everyone waited for a course run at the district (now Brigade) level, and paraded with their unit while they waited (usually doing general duties or being learning dummies for corporals who were going on leadership courses and needed some instructor practice, or some other such "unskilled labour" type job).

Once your BMQ (Basic Military Qualification) is over with, you will probably be joining your unit and taking part in more unit-level training (but then you'll understand what's going on   :) ) and waiting for BIQ (Basic Infantry Qualification), usually run during the summer (for you, up on the Matawa plains in Petawawa, unless things have changed drastically).

So the basics of your training will be like this:


  • Part 1 - BMQ teaches you to walk and talk and think army-style - drill, basic weapons handling, basic intro to most skills needed by soldiers (map reading, communications, basic mil law, etc.) and basic bushcraft (living under a complicated army-type tarp called a shelter half, cooking IMPs, walking around outside in the dark, etc.)

  • Part 2 - Unit training teaches you about your unit - unit history, who's who in the regiment, how to wear a kilt properly and with pride (unless you're unlucky enough to have joined a "panted" unit   ;D ), and to meet the guys* you will be working with on a regular basis. You will also learn what's awaiting you in your military career.

  • Part 3 - BIQ teaches you the specific skills needed as an infantry soldier, and refines the basic bushcraft skills learned in BMQ. You do a whole lot more weapons training, and learn how to function under a lot more stress, with a lot less sleep.

Once you've finished these, you will officially be a trained infantry soldier, ready to continue the training in the direction that it needs to go - specialty trades training, leadership courses, special courses (depending on your aptitude, drive, and ability, you can take just about any course you would ever imagine - I know one guy who was with the Reserves his whole career - he had his CF parachutist course, completed US Army Ranger school, was a Pioneer, and really wanted to get his Demo Instructor course). There is one important thing to remember, though: YOU ARE ALWAYS LEARNING AND DEVELOPING - If you ever decide that you know everything you need to know, and that you can stop applying yourself, then you have at that point failed yourself, your buddies, and the CF.

Good luck, and enjoy!

* note that, even in today's PC army, I will persist in using the term "guys" in a gender-neutral way. (if you don't like it, go pound sand!)
 
It depends on the unit and what kind of soldier you are (read switched-on!).

It the Argylls, you may be rolled into the rifle company even if you only have BMQ.

Otherwise, you will be rolled into HQ/SP and will likely do CP (CS 0) duties on exercises or will be in the training cell on parade nights -- but on exercises your duties include patrolling, force protection, etc.

In either case, you will train with the unit and will go out on exercises and do all the unit training.

There's no point in having bodies in the unit if they can't do the good stuff.

Even our pipe and drums goes out into the field, and they either do HQ/SP work, or serve as OPFOR. In addition, we take brand-new recruits and drop them into a pre-course training cell. This way, they start to do in-house training before they do their qualification course. And, we even new recruits out into the field on unit exercises (where they work in the unit training cell) to do basic survival training and to get exposed to field conditions, etc. 

If you got a pulse, you got a job.

Now, that said, it depends on the unit!


 
*Grunt said:
As an infanteer from what info i've gathered you do BMQ, then SQ/BIQ then.... you get posted with your regiment...this topic I find is very informative on this subject please read it!

http://army.ca/forums/threads/1254.0.html
That's the process for the Regs.  It is different for the Reserves.  You can parade with your unit without SQ or even BMQ (though you are limited in what you can do).  Since you only have experience with the Regs, why do you answer questions on Reserve training?
 
Order of training simplified:

1-BMQ: a course all CF pers must take.
2-SQ (soldier qualification): a crse all land staff pers must take (IIRC).
3-Trades training-a crse soldiers must take to qualify them in their trade. In your case Armyboi, that would be BIQ-Basic Infantry Qualification.

You CANNOT train with the unit until you are BMQ qualified, as per CF regs (again, IIRC). Your unit may still not allow you to train with them until you are SQ or even BIQ qualified, but that is determined by the unit.
In my unit, you train with the unit as soon as you are BMQ qual'd. All BMQ or BMQ/SQ qual'd are loaded into their own platoon, and go on ex usually as enemy force under their section commanders, or maybe CS0 (working in the command post) under Ops staff (Ops Warrant/Ops O/CQMS/Etc).

But make no mistake - you will not go on ex FOR SURE until you are BMQ qualified, and maybe not until you are SQ or BIQ qualified.

Clear as mud?
 
Caesar said:
Order of training simplified:

1-BMQ: a course all CF pers must take.
2-SQ (soldier qualification): a crse all land staff pers must take (IIRC).
3-Trades training-a crse soldiers must take to qualify them in their trade. In your case Armyboi, that would be BIQ-Basic Infantry Qualification.
Just to add confusion...  For CSS trades, you can take trades training before SQ.  At least in the Reserves.
 
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