Rise and Fall of the NDP - 2015 - ????

[OldSolduer]

The NDP will rebound eventually. The lure of making everyone "equal" is too strong an attraction for weak jealous people NOT to make it rebound.

 

[ModlrMike]

It's not just that they want everyone to be equal, they want to be the first among equals.

 

[The Bread Guy]

On the NDP leadership race

New Democrats say they want leadership race rules to ensure multiple serious candidates, shorter contest

Party’s national director says meeting ‘in the near future’ to lay out plans for race

www.theglobeandmail.com

Wonder if these meet the want

NDP releases official rules for leadership race to replace Singh

OTTAWA - The NDP has released the official rules for its leadership race, which include requirements that candidates gather specific numbers of signatures from supporters in diverse regional, racial and

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Rules Governing Leadership Contest 2026

Canada's NDP is excited to share full details of the 2026 Leadership Race. This is a crucial first step in what will be an important opportunity for New Democrats to come together, rebuild, and elect our new leader.

www.ndp.ca

"The Book" also attached.

 

[daftandbarmy]

It's not just that they want everyone to be equal, they want to be the first among equals.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Winston Churchill

 

[Brad Sallows]

The great difficulty for progressive parties is that so much of what they want now requires changing human nature on a time scale of years rather than millennia.

 

[ArmyRick]

Wonder if these meet the want

NDP releases official rules for leadership race to replace Singh

OTTAWA - The NDP has released the official rules for its leadership race, which include requirements that candidates gather specific numbers of signatures from supporters in diverse regional, racial and

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

Rules Governing Leadership Contest 2026

Canada's NDP is excited to share full details of the 2026 Leadership Race. This is a crucial first step in what will be an important opportunity for New Democrats to come together, rebuild, and elect our new leader.

www.ndp.ca

"The Book" also attached.

Interesting in the one article to see my friend Tony McQuail is considering running for leadership of the NDP. He is a good, sensible man (a retired farmer) and he could steer the party away from radicals. I am not sure he is ready for the cutthroat of politics. I will call him later and see what he is thinking.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Interesting in the one article to see my friend Tony McQuail is considering running for leadership of the NDP. He is a good, sensible man (a retired farmer) and he could steer the party away from radicals. I am not sure he is ready for the cutthroat of politics. I will call him later and see what he is thinking.

Is he a cis male from a non-equity seeking group?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Interesting in the one article to see my friend Tony McQuail is considering running for leadership of the NDP. He is a good, sensible man (a retired farmer) and he could steer the party away from radicals. I am not sure he is ready for the cutthroat of politics. I will call him later and see what he is thinking.

Tom Mulcair tried to do that and got stabbed in the back for his efforts to make the party relevant.

 

[OldSolduer]

Is he a cis male from a non-equity seeking group?

At some point in the not too distant future I can see a potential leader for any one of the parties telling the special interest groups:

"Go piss up a rope" or words to that effect.

 

[daftandbarmy]

At some point in the not too distant future I can see a potential leader for any one of the parties telling the special interest groups:

"Go piss up a rope" or words to that effect.

Given their electoral participation rates, I doubt it...

Electoral Participation Among Canadian Sexual Minorities​

Overall, these results indicate two primary takeaways. First, there are indications of mobilization among sexual minorities, but this phenomenon seems to apply mostly at the federal level. Second, this mobilization is observed despite the selection mechanism, which suggests that sexual minorities should vote less due to their over-representation in certain sociodemographic variables associated with lower voter turnout. In our model, we find some indications of a mobilization effect even when keeping respondents' age, education, and gender constant. Third, the turnout rates differ among gay or lesbian and bisexual individuals, suggesting that we should not consider sexual minorities as a single group, at least when it comes to voter turnout.

Results - Electoral Participation Among Canadian Sexual Minorities

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www.elections.ca

 

[ArmyRick]

I spoke to Tony McQuail today. He is seriously thinking about running. We talked about a few points, I will not bring them up here at this time.

Personally, I suggest if your NDP and if Tony runs, I recommend supporting him. He was a long time Holistic management instructor (a student of Allan Savory) and using this, he can bring some true objective insights to the NDP.

 

[PuckChaser]

He'll get outvoted by the progressives, who will then flock to whoever their next messiah is, in a mass exodus from the Liberal Party. The NDP is the true fringe left, Trudeau was just able to outflank Singh but completely ignore the center.

 

[McG]

I have to wonder if the Right would be better off if the PPC morphed into a right wing version of the NDP. A place for those "outcasts" to feel at home. Meanwhile allowing the Conservatives to move to a more centre right position.

But the CPC seemingly want (under current management) to be that NDP of the right.

 

[PuckChaser]

But the CPC seemingly want (under current management) to be that NDP of the right.

Not in the slightest are they that far right. For decades they have allowed their fringe to have a voice and let democracy choose a more centrist direction. The NDP and until recently the LPC gave the levers of policy creation to the far left.

 

[FJAG]

But the CPC seemingly want (under current management) to be that NDP of the right.

Not in the slightest are they that far right. For decades they have allowed their fringe to have a voice and let democracy choose a more centrist direction. The NDP and until recently the LPC gave the levers of policy creation to the far left.

The problem is that the people who make up the inner workings of all political parties are dominated by fringe and special interest groups. They're the ones primarily motivated to get involved to that degree.

Those of us who form the moderate centre are simply to busy working for a living or, unfortunately, simply unmotivated to get heavily involved.

As a result we tend to vote for the least offensive party or the one that lies the best to us and pretends to have our interest at heart. Sometimes we even get tossed a bone.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

The problem is that the people who make up the inner workings of all political parties are dominated by fringe and special interest groups. They're the ones primarily motivated to get involved to that degree.

Those of us who form the moderate centre are simply to busy working for a living or, unfortunately, simply unmotivated to get heavily involved.

As a result we tend to vote for the least offensive party or the one that lies the best to us and pretends to have our interest at heart. Sometimes we even get tossed a bone.

Same thing happened to most of the major unions as well.

 

[DBNSG]

But the CPC seemingly want (under current management) to be that NDP of the right.

There is something wonky going on with the Conservatives. I was recently contacted to contribute to the Conservatives but I asked apparently an awkward question. I stated that Katy Telford and Gerry Butts delivered four Liberal Governments and left. Jenny Byrne lost four elections but is still there and I would not contribute until she goes. Stammer, stammer uhhh, well uhhh
Thats a good point, uhhh.

 

[Edward Campbell]

We need to remember that this is Canada's overall political alignment:

 

[ArmyRick]

My Friend, Tony McQuail

 

[The Bread Guy]

Don’t know if I’m as optimistic as he is on merging with the Team Green, but good to see a “real person” have a go at it. Best of luck to him!