Roman Sword found in Nova Scotia questions history of Americas

[Kat Stevens]

I blame these guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FveBzGMD6zw

 

[Remius]

Why do I get the impression some locals are just planting things for giggles.

That would be the best secret of the island of the decades.  A cabal of pranksters who sucker people.

 

[dapaterson]

It is rumoured that artefacts tend to appear around Oak Island just as the deep-pocketed foreigners start to doubt...

 

[cupper]

It is rumoured that artefacts tend to appear around Oak Island just as the deep-pocketed foreigners start to doubt...

If you guys don't say anything, I'll cut you in on the proceeds when I start seeding the waters around the island with "mysterious ancient artifacts".

I'm waiting for the alien connection to be made, after all there was a ufo spotted just a short distance down the coast in the 60's. And we all know that as members of the CAF we were part of that cover up, from orders high up at NDHQ. It's omly a matter of time before the real story comes out.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Has anyone seen a picture of the sword? Is it a true gladius? Could someone post a link to the picture?

Never mind, found it. I don't see the similarity, other than they are both swords. The artifact doesn't look like a gladius to me.

If you look closely at pictures of the sword you will see that it was produced from one mould.

Then there is the condition of the sword. This link shows a Roman gladius and a spatha and what they actually look like after a couple of millenium.

As for the colour of the sword, it reminds me of certain "artifacts" the locals tried to sell me when I was visiting Tunsia years ago.

 

[Old Sweat]

Check for the Legion of Frontiersmen logo on the blade.  [

 

[Kat Stevens]

Looks like basic issue to the 19th Alberta Dragoons to me.... >

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Could a Roman sword also not have made it across by a later traveller who could have been using something left behind after the Romans took their ball and left England to the barbarians?

It's identical to one on ebay, I have the link somewhere. On this coast at the Maritime Museum, we have  2,000 year old Chinese vase that came up in a fishing net in the Strait of Juan De fuca. Problem is we don't know if it's off the wreck of a 2000 year old wreck or a 18th century sailing ship. I like it, because you can see inside the thumb print of the potter who was fixing a flaw in it. They have come across very old Chinese coins in coastal Washington State in archaeological digs    http://www.gavinmenzies.net/Evidence/22-annex-22-%E2%80%93-evidence-of-chinese-fleets-visiting-british-colombia-washington-state-and-oregon/

http://royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/staffprofiles/files/2014/12/Asiatic-Objects.pdf

 

[jollyjacktar]

It's identical to one on ebay, I have the link somewhere. On this coast at the Maritime Museum, we have  2,000 year old Chinese vase that came up in a fishing net in the Strait of Juan De fuca. Problem is we don't know if it's off the wreck of a 2000 year old wreck or a 18th century sailing ship. I like it, because you can see inside the thumb print of the potter who was fixing a flaw in it. They have come across very old Chinese coins in coastal Washington State in archaeological digs    http://www.gavinmenzies.net/Evidence/22-annex-22-%E2%80%93-evidence-of-chinese-fleets-visiting-british-colombia-washington-state-and-oregon/

http://royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/staffprofiles/files/2014/12/Asiatic-Objects.pdf

I have not looked at this sword or the program associated with it.  I was just pondering if it might be beyond the realm of possibility that someone might have brought a genuine Roman sword across to the new world pre-Columbus ie-Vikings or Irish etc and then lost it during one of their landings along the coast.  There are a number of stone sites that are of that age along the eastern seaboard.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

It's not out of the realm of possibility that a roman ship survived a crossing or an artifact is brought over by a later period. However in this case it's pure hogwash. problem with the Romans, they never a seafaring race, most of their sailing was in the Med or coastal trading. At 500 tonnes for the larger ships they were likely capable of the journey. Did they have have the nautical know how is a good question.

 

[George Wallace]

It's identical to one on ebay, I have the link somewhere. On this coast at the Maritime Museum, we have  2,000 year old Chinese vase that came up in a fishing net in the Strait of Juan De fuca. Problem is we don't know if it's off the wreck of a 2000 year old wreck or a 18th century sailing ship. I like it, because you can see inside the thumb print of the potter who was fixing a flaw in it. They have come across very old Chinese coins in coastal Washington State in archaeological digs    http://www.gavinmenzies.net/Evidence/22-annex-22-%E2%80%93-evidence-of-chinese-fleets-visiting-british-colombia-washington-state-and-oregon/

http://royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/staffprofiles/files/2014/12/Asiatic-Objects.pdf

With debris floating ashore in BC from the tsunamis in Japan, it is a possibility that some of that was also the result of debris floating across the ocean on ship's wrecks and such over the centuries.

 

[Maxadia]

The fact that they may have made their way here accidentally does not automatically mean that they would have had to make their way back.

 

[jollyjacktar]

Strange visitors do arrive here from time to time.  Apparently Hope for Wildlife has a Vulture that was found sitting in a tree in Cape Breton.  They're scratching their heads as the bird is a desert fella.

 

[Sigs Pig]

Strange visitors do arrive here from time to time.  Apparently Hope for Wildlife has a Vulture that was found sitting in a tree in Cape Breton.  They're scratching their heads as the bird is a desert fella.

The bird is named Elvira, sex of it is unknown (mystery deepens) and no reference of a sword being found on it or if it was picked up on Oak Island.... Man those easterners have ALL the fun.  :santa: - could not find a sarcasm smiley
Elvira

Stay cool
ME

 

[Teager]

Tonight the episode aired proving it was a replica maybe made in the 1880's or later.

 

[jollyjacktar]

*cough* 1980's *cough*

 

[daftandbarmy]

There's an (archaeological) sucker born every minute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man

 

[PMedMoe]

*cough* 1980's *cough*

That's what I was thinking... Maybe "1880's" was a typo...

 

[larry Strong]

That's what I was thinking... Maybe "1880's" was a typo...

Lab lady on the show said the sword metal dated back that far.

 

[PMedMoe]

Lab lady on the show said the sword metal dated back that far.

The lab lady paid by the shows producers?