Russell Williams charged in 2 x murders, confinement, sexual assault.
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mariomike said:
Typical. I'm not sure if this is just a cash grab by an enterprising lawyer or a justifiable suit.
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Why ? Williams is in jail.
These people are victimes of Russel Williams, not victims of the CF.
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Thanks Haggis. Thats one angle I (or many soldiers) havent thought about. Great food for thought.
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As much as I feel for the victims of his crimes, there is a small part of me that thinks that sueing the CF is a cash grab. I feel that regardless of his job he would have commited the same crimes.
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CBC.ca catches up on this one, with a bit more detail on how much is being sought (CAVEAT: don't click on the story if you don't want to see, in the words of the CBC warning, "disturbing sexual and violent details"):mariomike said:
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You have GOT to be kidding me...
"I say there, officer, I know, with 100% certainty, that Mr. Jones is not the man you seek. How do I know this? Er....ah...."
FFS. Does this guy really think that a perverted, sick and twisted criminal such as Williams should have alerted the police? I mean, was that the worst thing he did?
Some people's children....or neighbours, in this case.
"I say there, officer, I know, with 100% certainty, that Mr. Jones is not the man you seek. How do I know this? Er....ah...."
FFS. Does this guy really think that a perverted, sick and twisted criminal such as Williams should have alerted the police? I mean, was that the worst thing he did?
Some people's children....or neighbours, in this case.
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...or the society, with willing legal assistance, that views spurious lawsuits as an alternative to buying lottery tickets. :Technoviking said:
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Journeyman said:...or the society, with willing legal assistance, that views spurious lawsuits as an alternative to buying lottery tickets. :
"get rich the American way : Sue somebody !"
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http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/01/17/19257696.html
Russell Williams' wife fights $7M lawsuit
By Luke Hendry, QMI AGENCY
BELLEVILLE, Ont. – The estranged wife of convicted killer Russell Williams has filed a statement of defence against a lawsuit launched by one of her ex-husband's sexual assault victims.
In a document filed at the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in Belleville, Ont., Mary Elizabeth Harriman refutes all claims made against her by Laurie Massicotte.
“We’re going to vigourously defend the claims set out against Mary Elizabeth Harriman,” Mary-Jane Binks, Harriman’s Ottawa lawyer, told QMI Agency.
“We think there’s no basis whatsoever. The revelation of what transpired with respect to former colonel Williams has been devastating (to Harriman).
“I’m acting for a courageous lady — a very good and courageous lady.”
Massicotte’s lawyer, David Ross of Belleville, was unavailable for comment Tuesday.
Williams is serving life in prison. He was convicted in October 2010 of attacking Massicotte and another Tweed, Ont., woman, and of killing Cpl. Marie-France Comeau, 37, of Brighton, Ont., and Jessica Lloyd, 27, of Belleville.
He was also convicted of committing dozens of break-and-enters and thefts in Belleville, Tweed and Ottawa.
Massicotte filed a statement of claim on Sept. 23, 2011, seeking monetary damages against Williams, Harriman and the Ontario Provincial Police. She and her three daughters, who are also named as plaintiffs in her lawsuit, are seeking $7 million.
They allege Harriman committed a fraudulent transfer and/or disposal of assets when she and Williams made a domestic contract in March 2010.
Their claims have not been proven in court.
“Harriman expressly denies any intention to defeat the claims of any creditors of the defendant Williams,” according to the statement of defence.
Harriman is the associate executive director of the Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada. She and Williams are in the midst of divorce proceedings in an Ottawa court.
“Her stature in the community is exemplary,” her defence states. “Harriman is secure in her employment, has strong ties to the Ottawa community and there are no grounds to believe that she is going to abscond from the jurisdiction.”
It adds the “conveyance was not made secretly but was duly registered” and was done strictly to ensure her financial security.
“There was no unusual haste to make the conveyance in light of all the circumstances facing Harriman and Williams,” it reads. “There is nothing untoward or suspicious about the transfer.”
The file states she has “no knowledge” of many of the claims and “expressly denies the plaintiffs are entitled to any of the relief sought.”
Harriman has made a motion to seal details of her professional life, personal finances and legal affairs disclosed in another civil suit, filed by Jane Doe, Williams’ other surviving sexual assault victim. That motion is now in a state of temporary suspension, Binks said.
Harriman’s statement of defence against Massicotte indicates she will also move to seal details in the Massicotte case, which is to be tried in Belleville.
Binks said it’s unclear how long the civil suits will take to resolve.
“I can’t venture an estimate at this time.”
Russell Williams' wife fights $7M lawsuit
By Luke Hendry, QMI AGENCY
BELLEVILLE, Ont. – The estranged wife of convicted killer Russell Williams has filed a statement of defence against a lawsuit launched by one of her ex-husband's sexual assault victims.
In a document filed at the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in Belleville, Ont., Mary Elizabeth Harriman refutes all claims made against her by Laurie Massicotte.
“We’re going to vigourously defend the claims set out against Mary Elizabeth Harriman,” Mary-Jane Binks, Harriman’s Ottawa lawyer, told QMI Agency.
“We think there’s no basis whatsoever. The revelation of what transpired with respect to former colonel Williams has been devastating (to Harriman).
“I’m acting for a courageous lady — a very good and courageous lady.”
Massicotte’s lawyer, David Ross of Belleville, was unavailable for comment Tuesday.
Williams is serving life in prison. He was convicted in October 2010 of attacking Massicotte and another Tweed, Ont., woman, and of killing Cpl. Marie-France Comeau, 37, of Brighton, Ont., and Jessica Lloyd, 27, of Belleville.
He was also convicted of committing dozens of break-and-enters and thefts in Belleville, Tweed and Ottawa.
Massicotte filed a statement of claim on Sept. 23, 2011, seeking monetary damages against Williams, Harriman and the Ontario Provincial Police. She and her three daughters, who are also named as plaintiffs in her lawsuit, are seeking $7 million.
They allege Harriman committed a fraudulent transfer and/or disposal of assets when she and Williams made a domestic contract in March 2010.
Their claims have not been proven in court.
“Harriman expressly denies any intention to defeat the claims of any creditors of the defendant Williams,” according to the statement of defence.
Harriman is the associate executive director of the Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada. She and Williams are in the midst of divorce proceedings in an Ottawa court.
“Her stature in the community is exemplary,” her defence states. “Harriman is secure in her employment, has strong ties to the Ottawa community and there are no grounds to believe that she is going to abscond from the jurisdiction.”
It adds the “conveyance was not made secretly but was duly registered” and was done strictly to ensure her financial security.
“There was no unusual haste to make the conveyance in light of all the circumstances facing Harriman and Williams,” it reads. “There is nothing untoward or suspicious about the transfer.”
The file states she has “no knowledge” of many of the claims and “expressly denies the plaintiffs are entitled to any of the relief sought.”
Harriman has made a motion to seal details of her professional life, personal finances and legal affairs disclosed in another civil suit, filed by Jane Doe, Williams’ other surviving sexual assault victim. That motion is now in a state of temporary suspension, Binks said.
Harriman’s statement of defence against Massicotte indicates she will also move to seal details in the Massicotte case, which is to be tried in Belleville.
Binks said it’s unclear how long the civil suits will take to resolve.
“I can’t venture an estimate at this time.”
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At least they stayed in-house.............................
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/09/killer-colonel-image-used-in-dnd-promo-booklet
BELLEVILLE, ONT. -
Canada’s defence department has recalled an internal booklet after discovering it contained a photo of convicted sex killer and ex-colonel Russell Williams.
“This is a terrible mistake for which the Canadian Forces are truly sorry,” Defence Minister Peter MacKay said in a written statement.
“As soon as I became aware of this booklet, I immediately ordered the military to destroy all copies of the collected booklets,” MacKay said.
He promised a personal apology to the families of two local women killed by the disgraced airman.
“I have also instructed my officials to immediately begin an investigation to ensure it does not happen again,” MacKay said in the statement.
Williams, now 49, was imprisoned for life after pleading guilty in October 2010 to killing two women, attacking two more and committing a years-long series of break-ins and fetish thefts between Ottawa and Belleville.
His most severe crimes were committed while Williams commanded CFB Trenton, Canada’s largest air force base.
Yet he appears in the background in the first edition of a new professional development booklet produced last week by the Canadian Defence Academy, a branch of the federal Department of National Defence. A copy of the booklet was obtained by QMI Agency.
A military spokesman said the booklet was never released fully — and never will be.
“We’ve recalled the booklet because of an editorial oversight,” Lt.-Cmdr. John Williston, the academy’s public affairs officer, told QMI Agency.
“It has been completely recalled. It was only distributed within the headquarters and to a few others and we are in the process of redoing it,” Williston said.
Williams is one of more than a dozen recognizable people in the photo, which was shot Jan. 15, 2010, by a corporal at CFB Trenton.
By then, the base commander had killed Cpl. Marie-France Comeau, 37, his former squadronmate, and had amassed a collection of undergarments and photos from his break-ins.
Williams killed 27-year-old Jessica Lloyd of Belleville less than three weeks after the Trenton photo was taken.
Andy Lloyd, her elder brother, said he was unaware of the issue until contacted by QMI Agency.
“I don’t even know what to say,” Lloyd said.
“I was kind of hoping they would have destroyed all the images they had of him in uniform, just like they destroyed his uniform,” he said.
Lloyd has in the past voiced support for the military but said the image’s publication was a further insult to his family.
“Accidents do happen ... but that’s a pretty big boo-boo,” he said. “We’re not very impressed with it.”
The Canadian Defence Academy is an umbrella agency overseeing a variety of training and professional development programs, including Royal Military Colleges in Ontario and Quebec and language training.
The glossy, thin booklet is titled, “I am a member of the profession of arms.”
Williston said it was intended to support professional development programs in a post-Afghanistan military and help explain what it means to be a member of the Canadian Forces.
Defence spokeswoman Amber Bineau said the booklet may have been printed by a civilian firm, but defence staff designed it.
“It was a publication that was done in-house,” Bineau said.
The colourful pages show images of military life and list tenets of leadership, such as “every member becomes a leader” and “every member is a mentor.”
Williams’ face is tiny, appearing in a photo measuring 6.5 cm by 3 cm, one of several on a page opposite a page entitled “Lead and serve.”
He’s neither mentioned in the caption nor the focus of the photo — but he’s clearly recognizable in it. Dressed in a blue air force uniform, he’s seated and looking with a neutral expression at Lt-Gen. Andre Deschamps, head of Canada’s air force.
Williston said the gaffe “was noticed right away” after the first box arrived at academy headquarters. The recall was immediate, he said.
“There were only a couple of hundred actual ones that were released and we’re trying to retrieve those for obvious reasons.”
Keyword searches of the military’s Combat Camera photo archive haven’t yielded any images of Williams since soon after his arrest in February 2010. It was not known if any other pictures of Williams exist among the thousands of archived files.
In November 2010, military officials retrieved Williams’ military possessions— including uniforms, certificates and even manuals — and destroyed them.
One month later, Williams was ejected from the military. He’s now serving his time at the Kingston Penitentiary.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/09/killer-colonel-image-used-in-dnd-promo-booklet
BELLEVILLE, ONT. -
Canada’s defence department has recalled an internal booklet after discovering it contained a photo of convicted sex killer and ex-colonel Russell Williams.
“This is a terrible mistake for which the Canadian Forces are truly sorry,” Defence Minister Peter MacKay said in a written statement.
“As soon as I became aware of this booklet, I immediately ordered the military to destroy all copies of the collected booklets,” MacKay said.
He promised a personal apology to the families of two local women killed by the disgraced airman.
“I have also instructed my officials to immediately begin an investigation to ensure it does not happen again,” MacKay said in the statement.
Williams, now 49, was imprisoned for life after pleading guilty in October 2010 to killing two women, attacking two more and committing a years-long series of break-ins and fetish thefts between Ottawa and Belleville.
His most severe crimes were committed while Williams commanded CFB Trenton, Canada’s largest air force base.
Yet he appears in the background in the first edition of a new professional development booklet produced last week by the Canadian Defence Academy, a branch of the federal Department of National Defence. A copy of the booklet was obtained by QMI Agency.
A military spokesman said the booklet was never released fully — and never will be.
“We’ve recalled the booklet because of an editorial oversight,” Lt.-Cmdr. John Williston, the academy’s public affairs officer, told QMI Agency.
“It has been completely recalled. It was only distributed within the headquarters and to a few others and we are in the process of redoing it,” Williston said.
Williams is one of more than a dozen recognizable people in the photo, which was shot Jan. 15, 2010, by a corporal at CFB Trenton.
By then, the base commander had killed Cpl. Marie-France Comeau, 37, his former squadronmate, and had amassed a collection of undergarments and photos from his break-ins.
Williams killed 27-year-old Jessica Lloyd of Belleville less than three weeks after the Trenton photo was taken.
Andy Lloyd, her elder brother, said he was unaware of the issue until contacted by QMI Agency.
“I don’t even know what to say,” Lloyd said.
“I was kind of hoping they would have destroyed all the images they had of him in uniform, just like they destroyed his uniform,” he said.
Lloyd has in the past voiced support for the military but said the image’s publication was a further insult to his family.
“Accidents do happen ... but that’s a pretty big boo-boo,” he said. “We’re not very impressed with it.”
The Canadian Defence Academy is an umbrella agency overseeing a variety of training and professional development programs, including Royal Military Colleges in Ontario and Quebec and language training.
The glossy, thin booklet is titled, “I am a member of the profession of arms.”
Williston said it was intended to support professional development programs in a post-Afghanistan military and help explain what it means to be a member of the Canadian Forces.
Defence spokeswoman Amber Bineau said the booklet may have been printed by a civilian firm, but defence staff designed it.
“It was a publication that was done in-house,” Bineau said.
The colourful pages show images of military life and list tenets of leadership, such as “every member becomes a leader” and “every member is a mentor.”
Williams’ face is tiny, appearing in a photo measuring 6.5 cm by 3 cm, one of several on a page opposite a page entitled “Lead and serve.”
He’s neither mentioned in the caption nor the focus of the photo — but he’s clearly recognizable in it. Dressed in a blue air force uniform, he’s seated and looking with a neutral expression at Lt-Gen. Andre Deschamps, head of Canada’s air force.
Williston said the gaffe “was noticed right away” after the first box arrived at academy headquarters. The recall was immediate, he said.
“There were only a couple of hundred actual ones that were released and we’re trying to retrieve those for obvious reasons.”
Keyword searches of the military’s Combat Camera photo archive haven’t yielded any images of Williams since soon after his arrest in February 2010. It was not known if any other pictures of Williams exist among the thousands of archived files.
In November 2010, military officials retrieved Williams’ military possessions— including uniforms, certificates and even manuals — and destroyed them.
One month later, Williams was ejected from the military. He’s now serving his time at the Kingston Penitentiary.
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You can bet that someone is going to be assigned to purge their files of any picture of him. Not an easy task if there is no tag or note with the picture.
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Maybe we should have the entire Department and Canadian Forces down tools for a day, have a 100% stand-to, and search through every file, folder, and Dilbert cartoon for the Somalia documents pictures of Williams.
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One can never be too cautious, after all....Journeyman said:
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Don't even make jokes like that. Someone else will remember and think it's a good idea :facepalm:
What a waste of time and effort that was. :warstory: Going through maint vehicle files in 1 Svc, I didn't find too many files having anything to do with anywhere in Africa.
What a waste of time and effort that was. :warstory: Going through maint vehicle files in 1 Svc, I didn't find too many files having anything to do with anywhere in Africa.
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