Russia working on new nuclear weapons

[63 Delta]

Any thoughts on this? Another cold war?

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/11/17/russia-missiles-041117.html

 

[elminister]

I don't think Russia is capable of starting another cold war. They are lets just say "afraid" of the big bad wolf. (Eagle)

 

[Infanteer]

Nuclear weapons were ancillery to the Cold War, which was an ideological conflict.

Remember, the Cold War was around for 10 years before nuclear weapons began to be fielded in significant numbers.

 

[Bert]

I figure its all part of the game of defense and technology.  It goes beyond
speculation that various countries or regions like the EU, Japan, the Koreas,
Pakistan, Iran, Israel, China, the USA, Brazil, Russian are advancing their research of
missile defense, stealth technology, satellite intelligence, and orbital weaponry.
Weaponry will never stay static.  Funny, the Russians can make stealth missles,
the US advanced missle defense, but Canada can't solve the hockey strike.  Boo!

 

[white]

Shouldn't Russia be trying to better it's country instead of trying to create a better missile the Cold War is over so I dont't know why they would need a missile that can go through the U.S. defence shield.

 

[RDA]

Shouldn't Russia be trying to better it's country instead of trying to create a better missile

We live in a world where a country's clout on the world stage is directly proportional to its portrayed military might.   The most certain method of increasing the former has traditionally been to increase the latter.   It makes perfect sense for Russia to be upgrading its old military technology.   By doing so, Russia is increasing its influence in international relations and also sending the uplifting message to its people that Russia is still a relevant world power.  
Actually, who am I kidding?   It's probably all about securing its claim on middle eastern oil...   :

 

[winchable]

As it is with all things, the guy with the biggest wang gets the prize.
Substitute wang for Military might and guy with Country and you get a foundation for international relations.

Yeah that's way too simplistic.

 

[Infanteer]

No, that's about right.

Just picture states as men.   Aggressive and always seeking to dominate, they will improve themselves in areas which will sustain and enhance their dominance over others in the tribe, with the goal of making themselves the most successful mates.

On the international stage, translate dominant male get harem to dominant state is the hegemonic power of the world (and thus reaps whatever benefits come with that).

 

[48Highlander]

No, that's about right.

Just picture states as men.  Aggressive and always seeking to dominate, they will improve themselves in areas which will sustain and enhance their dominance over others in the tribe, with the goal of making themselves the most successful mates.

On the international stage, translate dominant male get harem to dominant state is the hegemonic power of the world (and thus reaps whatever benefits come with that).

I'm feeling a bit harrassed by your generalizations Dr. Freud    Haven't you been sharpened?

 

[Infanteer]

Suck it up.   Ids the way things work....

(Ok, that was good one, wasn't it; please say yes, I need the ego boost.  Oh shit, there I go again....)

 

[Storm]

As it is with all things, the guy with the biggest wang gets the prize.
Substitute wang for Military might and guy with Country and you get a foundation for international relations.

... and Russia is using it's grocery money to buy Viagra.

Sure it lets them get it up for a few more years, but that won't do much good if they're starving to death.

 

[RDA]

... and Russia is using it's grocery money to buy Viagra.

lol
Perhaps, but don't forget that Russia is the second largest producer of oil in the world, and with recent oil prices, they've got much more grocery money to spend now!   Viagra is a wise investment because it gets you the beautiful woman, and once you've got her, you've got all her friends too...

 

[youravatar]

While Russias ongoing efforts for proliferations are duley noted, this new develpment, is if anything not new, this program has been running 15 years strong and there isnt much we can do to stop it. i guess its just the kremlins way of "modernizing" their Military.
out.  :skull:

 

[Rushrules]

;D  What's the big deal?  If the states can walk away from a treaty because of terrorism fears and develop a counter missile system,  ??? then why can't Russia develop a weapon to counter that threat.  This is the same mentality that kept the Cold War going, and Washington will use this as further justification for missile defence (I mean offence).  China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Israel, France, UK, and Germany, S Korea, N Korea, etc... are working on their own missile defence/offence systems. 

Now, if they could invent something to find your remote, I'd be sh****ing bricks! :dontpanic:

 

[Brad Sallows]

Upgrading their nuclear deterrent before the current one rusts out completely is probably the cheapest way to safeguard their sovereignty against acquisitive or opportunistic neighbours.  Their conventional forces aren't what they once were and would be conceivably even more costly to upgrade and maintain.

 

[pappy]

what chumps we Americans are, paying for the Russians to dismantle Russia's old weapons while they build new ones to threaten us.
I think they should be more afriad of the Chechnians then the US.

Oh well, hard to stop this crap...  Nukes are 60+, year old technology, everyone and thier brother wants one.

And people wonder why the US wants to build a missle shied system.  Russia, China, France, Germany old enemies are still threats.

Sometimes I wonder who's on our side? at least when our wallet's closed it's tough to tell sometimes.

But in the end Russia has to know, nuke us we nuke you.  Same goes for them, MAD is not dead is it.  The US has used them twice, maybe we need to give a refreasher course.

Sarcastic as every... time for me to get some dinner.... 

Canada's on our side right?  lol  :dontpanic:

 

[Acorn]

Brad, their conventional forces are clearly way ahead of any aquisitive neighbours - unless you think NATO's new eastern flank is aquisitive (which the Russians likely believe, but that's another story).

Acorn

 

[white]

Canada's on our side right? lol :dontpanic:

Or course we are... we don't have any nukes.  ;D

 

[dutchie]

I recently read Robert McNamara's 'Blundering Towards Disaster' which is a history of the nuclear arms race, my copy revised for the mid-80's. In it he also looks at future developments and what they mean for world security/survival. He predicted that very quickly after the US implements Star Wars 1/missile defense shield, the 'Soviets' would develop a counter to render it less potent if not useless.

Funny, McNamara didn't predict the fall of the Soviet Empire until 2010-2020, but he was bang-on regarding the 'Soviet' response. By the way, he objected to Start Wars as it violates (arguable) the SALT(or was it the other?) treaties, allowing the Ruskies to violate it in their own chosen way, carte blanche. Tit for tat, so to speak.

Missile Defence isn't even operational, and Russia has already countered it. Even McNamara didn't predict it's superiority would end so soon.

 

[RDA]

Missile Defence isn't even operational, and Russia has already countered it. Even McNamara didn't predict it's superiority would end so soon.

Where on earth did you get the idea that new Russian missile technology would be able to penetrate the US BMD "shield" (assuming of course that the BMD technology becomes fully operational)?

Ahh whatever, it's all hypothetical anyways.