Ahh, Thanks. I assumed it was primarily SOPs and the like, and yes I heartily agree that training like that is lacking. It's always handy to know how the neighbours do things. I wonder if the Airforce would consider reconstituting the UTTH groups like they had in the RVs to revitalize that type of training for the field units. Nothing fancy, annually get as many hels as you can get together controlled by the Bde Sqn, select a couple of units for the training and "descend" on them. Pun intended. Airforce gets some training in hel ops on a larger scale and troops get "rides" training.