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Scumbags Phoning Valcartier Homes to Announce Deaths of Troops Overseas

Pusser said:
One thing I find puzzling is that the CF is claiming they've never seen this sort of thing before.  However, I distinctly remember hearing reports of it happening during the first Gulf War and early on in the second.  It's still despicable, but it's not new.
Depends how the question was asked/answered:  the spokesperson could have said, "I can't remember dealing with anything like this before", which is different from saying, "this has never happened before".

For example, one of the quotes, "We are not aware of other similar incidents" could be read as being closer to "we haven't heard of anything similar (lately?)" than "this has never happened before."
 
jollyjacktar said:
And here I thought you might have suggested some more "vigorous mineral therapy"  >:D 

It's some anti-warmonger for sure that seems to populate that Province in great herds.  Hope they get caught and hit as hard as the law allows.  Friggin Zombies

This is not the time for "mineral therapy". Its time for "understanding" and getting in "touch" with their feelings.....
 
Eye for an eye.

Someone finds out their names, publishes THEIR names and then let them deal with hundreds (thousands?) of phone calls and facebook/email harassment.

These jerks sing a different song when the THEY are shoved in the spotlight.

 
Grimaldus said:
Eye for an eye.

Someone finds out their names, publishes THEIR names and then let them deal with hundreds (thousands?) of phone calls and facebook/email harassment.

These jerks sing a different song when the THEY are shoved in the spotlight.


OH MY GOD!  They would be crying "Harassment" and "Human Rights Violation" right away quick.  They can dish it out, but can't take it.
 
My biggest worry is that it may be a serving member doing this.  The first thing that came to my mind (other than outrage) was that whoever is making these calls is convincing enough to fool the victims.  Now without being privy to exactly what was said, the prankster/scumbag must have some knowledge of the victims' loved ones.  Maybe Facebook but I think whoever is behind this is somewhat more informed than we think.
 
Crantor said:
My biggest worry is that it may be a serving member doing this.  The first thing that came to my mind (other than outrage) was that whoever is making these calls is convincing enough to fool the victims.  Now without being privy to exactly what was said, the prankster/scumbag must have some knowledge of the victims' loved ones.  Maybe Facebook but I think whoever is behind this is somewhat more informed than we think.
I'm not as concerned about inside info - when you call in the middle of the night, and someone is groggy, it's easy enough to sound official by using a rank.  What scares me is someone knowing the right name of the serving member, and matching it with an NOK phone number.
 
Eye for an eye... I totally agree. Let's "hang the guilty bastard".


Regards from the box,
TN2IC

Grimaldus said:
Eye for an eye.
Someone finds out their names, publishes THEIR names and then let them deal with hundreds (thousands?) of phone calls and facebook/email harassment.

 
Crantor said:
My biggest worry is that it may be a serving member doing this.  The first thing that came to my mind (other than outrage) was that whoever is making these calls is convincing enough to fool the victims.  Now without being privy to exactly what was said, the prankster/scumbag must have some knowledge of the victims' loved ones.  Maybe Facebook but I think whoever is behind this is somewhat more informed than we think.

That was my first thought. Some moron in the unit with a beef to pick with that specific soldier.
 
dogger1936 said:
That was my first thought. Some moron in the unit with a beef to pick with that specific soldier.
It has happened to many, what, would it be a whole squad of bullies? Or someone with a beef against all the people in the forces?
 
George Wallace said:
OH MY GOD!  They would be crying "Harassment" and "Human Rights Violation" right away quick.  They can dish it out, but can't take it.

The bully and the coward never can.

dogger1936 said:
That was my first thought. Some moron in the unit with a beef to pick with that specific soldier.

I really don't think so.
It's some left wing group who are justifying their actions by swallowing the whole Illegal unjust war bla bla imperial oppressors blah war for oil mantra.

If you guys think soldiers are a tough crowd when it comes to policing our own wait until the names of these guys come out and we see what the "average" Canadian thinks of someone doing that to one of their soldiers.
 
FlyingDutchman said:
It has happened to many, what, would it be a whole squad of bullies? Or someone with a beef against all the people in the forces?

Maybe it's due to my current job.....but I really have seen soldiers who would make you ashamed to even wear the uniform. My throat is sore from yelling so much today actually. Absolute scum.

Innuendo I know however this is what I see it as.

Young ****pump that Mcpl X was giving the gears to (rightfully so) and that pump gets booted off tour. He has the names in a section fanout or at his duty center. Bam he calls and "gets back" at Mcpl x in his sick way.

Again I blame my current job as I see some sick twisted stuff in this military.

 
The question is gentlemen, how does the caller know the families have loved ones overseas? The police should look for a connection between all the families that have been called, it could be someone they all know.

God forbid, I hope it isn't a serving member doing this.
 
How big is Val? When I was a young guy growing up around a base and working in a bar we always knew who was leaving or gone. So I wouldnt jump to being concerned about a serving guy yet.....
 
Container said:
How big is Val? When I was a young guy growing up around a base and working in a bar we always knew who was leaving or gone. So I wouldnt jump to being concerned about a serving guy yet.....

I agree. In a military town it's not hard to figure out who's gone and go to "Canada 411" and get phone numbers. Any 1/2  mind out there can do it. When we left in 91 for the Persian Gulf some of our wives and kids woke up to body bags on the front lawn. Not hard to figure out where a serving member lives just sit on any street corner within a 45 minute drive of any base and you'll see uniforms coming and going. not to mention the yellow ribbons on some houses.

Personally I think these a**holes need to see how a copy of the yellow pages can actually reach out and touch somebody! Of course in an educational non-violent way!  ;)

 
Happening in Australia, too.....
FAMILIES of Australian soldiers in Afghanistan have been receiving hoax calls that their loved ones have been wounded or killed.  This week a hoax call was received by the family of a Darwin-based First Combat Engineering Regiment soldier who is currently deployed overseas, the NT News reported. 

The disgraceful prank call followed separate Improvised Explosive Device attacks in Afghanistan which injured two Top End troops on Sunday. A source said the hoax phone calls had been occurring for at least the past three weeks and included emails that were "anti-Australian military". 

Australian Defence Force spokeswoman Sue Taylor said the Army was aware of hoax calls being made to the families of deployed soldiers ....

"The matter has been referred to the civilian authorities," Ms Taylor told the NT News.

Darwin Commanding Officer Lieutenant Colonel Matt Pearse told family members legitimate callers would identify their loved one by name and rank.

"If you receive a suspected hoax call please report it immediately to local police," he said. "We're establishing protocols whereby the serious wounding of a soldier will now be notified by face-to-face visit with the primary emergency contact."

Friends of troops deployed to Afghanistan have written on a social network page dedicated to the 5th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment, saying the hoax calls were upsetting and distressing ....
 
HavokFour said:
The question is gentlemen, how does the caller know the families have loved ones overseas? The police should look for a connection between all the families that have been called, it could be someone they all know.

God forbid, I hope it isn't a serving member doing this.

Amen to that!

It only takes one mad soldier, and a phone with some limited backround knowledge of the soldier.


Disgusting, utterly and truly revolting.
 
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