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Sexual Assault & Sexual Misconduct in the CF

It really is simple...before a person does something stupid wrt the opposite sex (co-worker / stranger) and bordering on sexual no-no, just think of how you will feel if a stranger did the same to your partner / mbr of your family.
 
beachdown said:
It really is simple...before a person does something stupid wrt the opposite sex (co-worker / stranger) and bordering on sexual no-no, just think of how you will feel if a stranger did the same to your partner / mbr of your family.

Or the same sex.
 
ArmyVern said:
I'm going to say it:

THANK YOU to the thousands of men that I have worked with throughout my service in the RCN, the RCAF, SOF, Joint and the Cdn Army for treating me with nothing but dignity and respect.  And to my fellow women too.

I understand the message being conveyed.  But I don't think anyone should have to thank anyone for that.  It should be the norm and the standard.  It should be expected if not demanded.  You shouldn't have to thank anyone for that. 
 
beachdown said:
It really is simple...before a person does something stupid wrt the opposite sex (co-worker / stranger) and bordering on sexual no-no, just think of how you will feel if a stranger did the same to your partner / mbr of your family.

As we are not all clones, nor using mind melds, etc.; and as we are all individuals, there are no guarantees that two people anywhere, at any time, will think the same and have the same feelings or reactions to an action taken by another.  ENTER the PC CROWD and you will see that we live in a special time where everyone seems to be offended at the pettiest of things. 

 
Remius said:
I understand the message being conveyed.  But I don't think anyone should have to thank anyone for that.  It should be the norm and the standard.  It should be expected if not demanded.  You shouldn't have to thank anyone for that.

And in normal times I would agree with you. But, seems to me that, particularly in this thread, there a a couple who are  keen to broad-brush and tar a whole group as if this were 'the norm' for behaviour just as the media has taken to doing. Holding ONLY those to account for doing wrong should also be the norm and expectation, but it sure isn't these days.

I say again, "THANK YOU" to the thousands if more than honorable men whom I have had the pleasure and priveledge to work with over the years.

THEY deserve that thanks because they sure seem to be lacking it lately .  Broad brushes and generalizations are not acceptable.
 
George Wallace said:
ENTER the PC CROWD and you will see that we live in a special time where everyone seems to be offended at the pettiest of things.

I wonder if some hyper-sensitive types actually enjoy  being OUTRAGED?
Get a sort of "rush" from it? Like they're addicted to it. Same way some are addicted to coffee or tobacco.
Do some love that feeling of self-righteous moral indignation?

Maybe if people were as offended by things like homelessness as they are about some other things society would be further ahead? :soapbox:







 
mariomike said:
Or the same sex.

I can't even count the number of times any more... being on training and certain infantry regiments hosted their Regimental parties.

I've never seen more phalluses or heard more requests of "show us your dick!" In a single night.

It doesn't happen quite as much anymore.
 
LunchMeat said:
certain infantry regiments hosted their Regimental parties.

In the mess, do they still say, "Show us you're regimental!" ?  :cheers:

Edit to add,

Dec 16, 2016

Soldier sentenced to six years in child porn case
http://www.680news.com/2016/12/16/soldier-sentenced-six-years-child-porn-case/
A Canadian Armed Forces sergeant based at CFB Trenton in eastern Ontario has been sentenced to six years in prison for child pornography offences and arranging to commit a sexual offence against a child.
 
Haggis said:
It's being delivered as "cascade training".  Senior commanders get it from higher commanders who then "cascade" (deliver) it to the next level of subordinates.  Repeat the process until it gets down to the soldier/sailor/aviator level.
And here's a little more about the bystander training via the Army's info-machine:
Canadian Army using Bystander Training from TED Talk in support of Operation Honour
Article / December 12, 2016
By: 2Lt Aaron Stryd

The Canadian Army is providing training to all personnel on the bystander approach to the prevention of Harmful and Inappropriate Sexual Behaviour (HISB). The aim of the training is to promote a culture of respect and vigilance within the Canadian Armed Forces which reinforces ethical conduct and prevents abusive behaviour.

The bystander approach was developed by Jackson Katz, founder of the Mentors in Violence Prevention Program and has been taught in organizations such as the United States Marine Corps, New England Patriots, and NASCAR.

Bystander training recognizes that many perpetrators of abusive behaviour are normal people who have been influenced by a culture that accepts, and sometimes promotes, those behaviours. People who are not a perpetrator or victim of abuse frequently remain silent for fear of impacting their career, relationships, or because they feel it isn’t their business. But when bystanders remain silent it promotes a culture which accepts abusive behaviour and allows it to continue.

Katz believes that it is a leadership issue.  “"I run a leadership program, "”  he said during a TED talk in 2012.  “"It can be hard to speak up, "”  he acknowledges, it takes people  “"with the guts, with the courage, with the strength with the moral integrity to break our complicit silence."”

The Canadian Army’s bystander training reinforces that all Canadian Armed Forces members are leaders in creating a safe and respectful workplace, and that we all have an obligation to speak out.

“ "I am committed to the termination of HISB in the Canadian Army, "”  said LGen Wynnyk, Commander of the Canadian Army.  “ "Every soldier and every officer needs to be ready and effective bystanders at all levels of the Canadian Army’s chain of command.  If you see it, hear it or feel it: do the right thing and report it."”

The training is being delivered through the chain of command. Training is underway with expected completion by January 2017.

To learn more, watch Jackson Katz’s TED talk at: https://www.ted.com/talks/jackson_katz_violence_against_women_it_s_a_men_s_issue?language=en
 
The training is being delivered through the chain of command. Training is underway with expected completion by January 2017.

A good way to make people take this training less seriously is to try and force everyone to complete it before block Christmas leave.

2 hour sessions with power point slideshows become 25 minute chats just so everyone can get the check in the box.  Important training becomes just another pre-leave unit brief.
 
Looks like the CANFORGEN on releasing members found guilty of sexual misconduct is out.

NOIs are to be issued to any member found guilty of sexual misconduct either by summary trial, court martial or civilian court.  Looks like it only encompasses everything that occurred after after Jan 1st 2016.
 
Jarnhamar said:
A good way to make people take this training less seriously is to try and force everyone to complete it before block Christmas leave.

2 hour sessions with power point slideshows become 25 minute chats just so everyone can get the check in the box.  Important training becomes just another pre-leave unit brief.

"expected completion by January 2017."

We still haven't heard squat about it in NAVRES.

If anyone reading this in a senior navy position in Ottawa, what gives?
 
Jarnhamar said:
A good way to make people take this training less seriously is to try and force everyone to complete it before block Christmas leave.

2 hour sessions with power point slideshows become 25 minute chats just so everyone can get the check in the box.  Important training becomes just another pre-leave unit brief.

You can measure how important something is to leadership by how much time (aka resources) they actually allocate for it.
 
Lumber said:
"expected completion by January 2017."

We still haven't heard squat about it in NAVRES.

If anyone reading this in a senior navy position in Ottawa, what gives?

The Army has directed all pers complete the training.  It is not (at this point) CAF direction.

The briefing material is all available on a DWAN website; if you want to get ahead of the power curve, download it, review it, and start coming up with ideas for delivering the training - so when the inevitable "Oh, get this done by 31 March" email arrives in mid-January, you can provide your boss with options.
 
Lumber said:
"expected completion by January 2017."

We still haven't heard squat about it in NAVRES.

If anyone reading this in a senior navy position in Ottawa, what gives?

What part about the headline did you miss?

ARMY ... ARMY ... ARMY

The Canadian ARMY picked up this trg from the US and is running with it.
 
ArmyVern said:
What part about the headline did you miss?

ARMY ... ARMY ... ARMY

The Canadian ARMY picked up this trg from the US and is running with it.


Ahem..

From the Annex A to the CDS' FRAGO 002 to CDS OP ORDER - Operation Honour

3. Collective Tasks

a. Phase Three

(6) Ensure all Command Teams are provided information and/or training on how to conduct Bystander Intervention Training within their units

This is not ARMY specific training.

Yes, the ARMY took an already designed training tool and ran with it. I just don't understand how we're already past the Army's "completed by" date without having heard a word about it in the Navy.
 
dapaterson said:
The briefing material is all available on a DWAN website; if you want to get ahead of the power curve, download it, review it, and start coming up with ideas for delivering the training - so when the inevitable "Oh, get this done by 31 March" email arrives in mid-January February, you can provide your boss with options.
FTFY if your part of the feds is anything like what I've heard other parts of the feds can be like - on a good day.
 
Lumber said:
Ahem..

From the Annex A to the CDS' FRAGO 002 to CDS OP ORDER - Operation Honour

This is not ARMY specific training.

Yes, the ARMY took an already designed training tool and ran with it. I just don't understand how we're already past the Army's "completed by" date without having heard a word about it in the Navy.

The article, as per it's headline, is about the ARMY, and the ARMY has made it mandatory.

The other environments have not/have yet to make the Bystander Intervention Training MANDATORY for anyone but those few whom they wished to have act as intervenors (I'm at CJOC and it isn't mandatory for us either ... yet).  The ARMY has made that training mandatory for ALL members of the Canadian Army (apparently by 31 Jan 2017).
 
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