Shemaghs as a part of dress?

[Niss]

Sorry if i sounded like it was a personel issue, but being a non combatant (read civi) i am not to concerned for myself. To me it just seams kind of pointless to make something green yet put a big white tag on it. On top of that, that tag i believe is the big one that says do not remove.

 

[aesop081]

Yes it is BIG and yes it is White.  You being a civilian has nothing to do with being able to use common dog !  As far as the do not remove goes...cant remember having see that on it...but how many " do not remove under penalty of law" tags have you removed off pillows and the like ?  Modifying kit is also prohibited , yet we all do it !!

Come up with something better will ya !

But we are getting off topic........

 

[gun plumber]

If your that concerned with it,buy a shemagh!

 

[Steel Badger]

Based on recent experience...Area and Brigade Sergeants-Major aren't too fond of shemags.....
Or of troops who unblouse their trousers in the field.

And less fond of WO's and SR NCO's responsible for those pers.  :'(


Personally I would be more concerned about how a soldier performs his/ her tasks......but mine is not to reason why.

 

[mudgunner49]

I had the Brigade SgtMaj jump all over me last year (2003) at Concentration in Pet because I showed up in the Brigade HQ area for the Comd O Gp with trousers unbloused and wearing a shemagh.   He was so pissed off about those two items that he failed to notice that I was wearing a CadPat SO Tech RCH chest rig... or maybe he didn't know what it was and was too embarrassed to ask!!   I have been wearing my trousers outside my boots in the field for about 15 years now, but I guess that the Bde HQ area is not the field... :dontpanic:

Not a thing said to Inf Coy OC's with drop-leg holsters in black or with US Woodland assault packs... hmmm, looks like a widespread Inf vs Arty conspiracy... ;D

Blake

 

[foerestedwarrior]

I was on an ex about 2 years ago, that we had to try and clean our stuff best as possible, and blouse our boots, cus City TV was showing up, I mean it had been raining for both days already, then that....... ???

 

[Danjanou]

Steel Badger if I read between the lines correctly there, sounds like somebody tried to chew you a new one for standing up for your troops.

If so good for you. Seems to me I spent waay too much time getting reamed for allowing my troops to â Å“bend the rules a bitâ ? re issued kit in the boonies and often led by example myself in what I was wearing/using (Yes I admit it I was a kit slut in my day). Not the "wandering gypsy anything goes, 50 rambo knives strapped everywhere, bring your own assault rifle look" mind, but practical proven non issue items.

My OC and I (I was the CSM) even got reemeed out by the Deputy Comd of the SSF in front of the boys for what they were/were not wearing in Pet on Ex in the early 1990's. That was amusing to say the least, at least he didn't decide to check if we were all wearing issue grey socks. :

Shemagh is a great piece of kit. Picked one up wandering around Morocco a few yeasr back and always take it with me when travelling ( wife hates it, I think she was a REMF RSM in a past life   )

 

[Steel Badger]

Well chewed

Am still convinced that the cleanliness and ability to function of a soldier and his kit is the thing to demand.
Much as I enforce perfection on the Pde Square... in the field I am less concerned about shemags and the like....including the radical decision not to bitch if my troops wear their own danners,,,,,,

 

[my72jeep]

Rather have my issue TV than the 82 Pattern.........Me likee........The fact that they CF is issuing kit that some thought has gone into is interesting though.......The CF changing its thinking........Sort of scares me........

Sort of.....

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You think the 82 pattern was bad I started with the 65 pattern all strap no padding and Velcro was used to hold it together and every thing on it.

 

[Steel Badger]

LOL

I remember that every single time we dismounted from the Grizzly, we'd leave our mess tins and water bottles on the ground behind the AVGP....


Ahhh the lovely 64 pattern....


Anyone else here remember the joys of the rainsuit....worn INSIDE the two halves of the mess tin carrier...

Took so *%%&^%&% long to get the &%%%^ stuff back into the mess tins that we never wore 'em...

Like my old sect comd used to say"  If yer not soaked w/in 5 min, you dont need em.
                                                  And if your arfe soakedin the first 5 min, you dont need em...


Let us not forget, that as a rain barrier the 64 pattern rainsuit had more holes in it than Sheila Cops' election platform....

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[Bomber]

MudGunner49, that bge SM came out with a dress "policy".  I thought only officers wrote and dictated policy, it is my belief that Snr NCO's actually "enforce" policy (which comes from officers, and is thus not their own).  I was a bit thrown by the "no desert boots due to no ankle support, but yes to jungle boots because of adequate ankle support" I should just put my Mk 3's on and be a good little gunner.

 

[Danjanou]

LOL

I remember that every single time we dismounted from the Grizzly, we'd leave our mess tins and water bottles on the ground behind the AVGP....

Ahhh the lovely 64 pattern....

Anyone else here remember the joys of the rainsuit....worn INSIDE the two halves of the mess tin carrier...

Took so *%%&^%&% long to get the &%%%^ stuff back into the mess tins that we never wore 'em...

Like my old sect comd used to say"   If yer not soaked w/in 5 min, you dont need em.
                                                   And if your arfe soakedin the first 5 min, you dont need em...

Let us not forget, that as a rain barrier the 64 pattern rainsuit had more holes in it than Sheila Cops' election platform....

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I can trump ya there Badger Boy. I can remember how excited we were to get the â Å“newâ ? 64 pattern and finally stop wearing our â Å“51" pattern with it's bren pouchs, cross straps, buckles and eyelets.

A couple of months later and I was longing for the old stuff that really worked, had a place to stow my mags, grenades etc, and didn't have to have all the velcro reinforced with gun tape or be forced to fill in lost kit reports (mess tin carrier, mess tins, KFS, rain gear top and bottom, water bottle, water bottle carrier, and canteen cup) after each section attack.

Ok now lets wait for some real old fart to come on and tell us how fun it was to wear pipe clayed cross belts and wooden water bottle and cartridge box. ;D

As for officers and NCOs coming up with and/or enforcing   a dress policy for the troopies and then not adhering to it themselves. While lets say i have a few well chosen and short ( about 4 letter) words for them. In MY Coy if I wore it and/or the OC wore it then that meant you could to.