So what should we name the JSS, the LPD and the Icebreakers?

[Good2Golf]

How about politcal parties?  HMCS Conservative, HMCS Liberal and HMCS New Democratic Party... 

Good thing the Conservatives changed their name...imagine HMCS CRAP.... ;D

 

[IN HOC SIGNO]

Just so you Know the Pansy was a HM Ship NOT and HMC Ship. Most Canadian flowers where named after cities, only ones built for the brits but manned and or taken over by the RCN had flower names.  Also her name was changed due to the crew getting into to many fights.

Yep...gotta give them worthy names.
My vote is that for the first JSS...they revive Provider (love her crest too with the large jug)
and the second one be Preserver (after they decommission the present one of course)

The LPD or whatever they call it (Gen Hillier's idea "The Big Honking Ship"(BHS) sounds good) should be HMCS Bonaventure....(acceptable to both official languages group ;D

 

[Mortar guy]

OK, I gotta wade into this one because I am an army guy with an excessive interest in ships (figure that one out - then again SCTF, here I come!)

JSS - Fathers of Confederation

HMCS John A MacDonald
HMCS George-Etienne Cartier
HMCS Thomas D'Arcy McGee

BHS - Old Carrier names (especially if they are LPHs)

HMCS Warrior
HMCS Magnificent

Icebreakers - Northern Explorers

HMCS John Franklin
HMCS Alexander Mackenzie

The icebreakers I'm not too sure about but you have to admit that Warrior and Magnificent are great names (even if the ships were techically owned by the RN).

MG

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

LOL you know you want to come to the dark side MG

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

The problem with naming a ship after a province is they will tend to be named either HMCS Ontario and HMCS Quebec causing problems with both eastern and western Canada.

 

[IN HOC SIGNO]

OK, I gotta wade into this one because I am an army guy with an excessive interest in ships (figure that one out - then again SCTF, here I come!)

JSS - Fathers of Confederation

HMCS John A MacDonald
HMCS George-Etienne Cartier
HMCS Thomas D'Arcy McGee

BHS - Old Carrier names (especially if they are LPHs)

HMCS Warrior
HMCS Magnificent

Icebreakers - Northern Explorers

HMCS John Franklin
HMCS Alexander Mackenzie

The icebreakers I'm not too sure about but you have to admit that Warrior and Magnificent are great names (even if the ships were techically owned by the RN).

MG

I think the Coast Guard already have the  Fathers of Confederation.

But we could look no further than just restoring the old tanker names
Provider, Protecteur and Preserver....great names and we already have crests...easy on the Ship's canteen (kit shop for you Army types)

I love Warrior and Magnificent.....but what about Bonaventure? there's a whole hockey sock of those guys still alive with associations etc....they'd love it and it would honour them too.

What about our two first carriers....Puncher and Nabob?? I love Puncher!

Then there are the names of our first two cruisers....Niobe and Rainbow.

There are also the Bay River class names......Chaleur, Chignecto, Thunder, Miramachi...can't remember the other two from the 70s 80s
River class....how about our three major Rivers......St Lawrence, Fraser, Mackenzie...flowing into our three oceans........ah the possibilities are endless

 

[IN HOC SIGNO]

The problem with naming a ship after a province is they will tend to be named either HMCS Ontario and HMCS Quebec causing problems with both eastern and western Canada.

Ok then....the ice breakers could be the three territories...Nunavut, Yukon (former Mackenzie class) and North West (uh that one will need some work he he).

You are right though....everyone out West and in Atlantic Canada already think Central Canada gets all the goodies....no good to stoke the fires!

 

[Neill McKay]

The problem with naming a ship after a province is they will tend to be named either HMCS Ontario and HMCS Quebec causing problems with both eastern and western Canada.

Both are already taken (for sea cadet summer training establishments in the respective provinces).

 

[orange.paint]

Name one the sir humphry Gilbert

old ice breaker,now retired.Sir Gilbert claimed newfoundland for england.

Most likely in my opinion it will end up being like "gay indian women who wrote a book"

hmcs Pat crowe

hmcs Georgeina tutto

etc.

 

[GO!!!]

The "Actor Class"

HMCS Leslie Nielsen, Rick Moranis and John Candy  ;D

 

[Phrontis]

The Royal Navy has had some great names for ships, like ILLUSTRIOUS and DREADNOUGHT and VICTORY; names you could rally 'round and which stir up some spirit.  I always thought it was kind of wet the way we name our ships after rivers and bays and cities/towns.  But then I read Milner's book on the first century of Canadian naval history, and he relates how a Canadian Admiral in WWII, discussing why we shouldn't follow the British example of naming corvettes after flowers, said "Flowers don't knit mittens".  Naming our ships after cities does provide an opportunity to forge a link between the Navy and the Canadian public, something we haven't always done well in our history, and to our cost.

As for naming ships after former Prime Ministers or great Canadians, that always seemed so Coast Guard or USN-ish to me.

What about bringing back some of the names of shore establishments which have been lost, like HMCS STADACONNA (now CFB Halifax) or HMCS NADEN (now CFB Esquimalt) or HMCS CORNWALLIS?

 

[chanman]

In the Canadian Navy, the whole namesake ship thing has been hot and cold.  Some cities like Calgary, Regina, Winnipeg and Edmonton have embraced their ships.  From what I have heard, others like Vancouver, Toronto and Ottawa seem like they could not care less.

Kinda interesting - Vancouver, Toronto, and Ottawa all have water access to the ocean, whereas Calgary, Regina, Winnipeg, and Edmonton...

HMCS Ottawa is based on the West coast as well...

 

[FSTO]

JSS - Provider, Preserver, Protecteur

Amphib - Queenston Heights, Batoche, Juno Beach, Scheldt Estuary,(all had water involved) and of course Vimy Ridge

Icebreakers - Inuit names for Polar Bear, Muskox and Arctic Fox

 

[Guy. E]

I cant say that I love the ideas of ships named after small farmer city's in the middle of the prairies who have no idea of the world outside beyond the city limits. The Brandon deserves a better name.

For the Ice breakers, why not Pirate ships?. Pirate ships were feared, don't we want people to stay away form our north right?:

Victory
Revenge
and
Fortune

http://www.vleonica.com/ship_cap.htm

With names like that I would want to be an ACS working on the choppers on them.

 

[FSTO]

I cant say that I love the ideas of ships named after small farmer city's in the middle of the prairies who have no idea of the world outside beyond the city limits. The Brandon deserves a better name.

This sounds better and makes more sense:
I cant say that I love the ideas of a ship named after a large Canadian city's on the shores of Lake Ontario which have no idea of the world outside beyond the city limits. The TORONTO deserves a better name.

:threat:

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

I cant say that I love the ideas of ships named after small farmer city's in the middle of the prairies who have no idea of the world outside beyond the city limits. The Brandon deserves a better name.

For the Ice breakers, why not Pirate ships?. Pirate ships were feared, don't we want people to stay away form our north right?:

Victory
Revenge
and
Fortune

http://www.vleonica.com/ship_cap.htm

With names like that I would want to be an ACS working on the choppers on them.

: some people just refuse to see the bigger picture.

 

[Sheerin]

I cant say that I love the ideas of a ship named after a large Canadian city's on the shores of Lake Ontario which have no idea of the world outside beyond the city limits. The TORONTO deserves a better name.

Hey i'm from Toronto and I like the fact that there is a ship named after my city......

Apart from that i have nothing else to add...

 

[Navy_Blue]

I can't see them using cruiser names on AOR's.  SCSC will most likely be Provincial Class and since there will be more than two, the other provinces shouldn't gripe to much.  As for JSS I really like the Idea of Canadian Battle Honours.  Could call them Heritage or Honour Class, HMCS Juno would be fantastic.  Ice Breakers could be Territory Class say Nunavut, Yukon and Northwest.  

Lets face it in the history of this Navy the Tribal Class has had the more aggressive names.  I tend to think of native warriors when I here the tribal names.  Everything else has had the intention of tying the sailors to there homeland and there homeland to the sailors.  In some cases it works out.  Calgary treats there ship and crew like gold.  Allot of times when the ships get into there homeports they get noticed too.  Montreal was in for her 10th birthday in 04 and they got treated well.  Allot of Cities can't justify spending thousands $$$ on people half a world away.  

Battle Honours though that is what the brass should be looking at.  Would be very proud to see those names come out.

 

[Guy. E]

Juno
Vimmy

They have a nice ring to them.

 

[warrickdll]

They're Battle Honours, and have already been immortalized. We don't need to have Vimy Ridge Secondary School, or the Vimy Ridge Collectible Lunch Box w/Thermos. And the army won't have the Battle Of The Atlantic Fusilier Battalion - though I'm sure they'd have nice hats .