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Someone needs to take the microphone away from the Cons

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OTTAWA — Various indiscretions caught on audio or videotape became fodder Friday for opposition charges that Stephen Harper's Tories say one thing in public but another in private.

Liberals pounced on an eight-year-old audio recording of Jason Kenney, now secretary of state for multiculturalism, making disparaging remarks about Sikhs.

In the recording, first reported in 2000, Kenney can be heard discussing a rumour that a member of a Canadian Alliance riding association might be a member of a neo-Nazi group. At the time, Mr. Kenney was co-chair of the 2000 election campaign for the Alliance, predecessor of the Conservative party.

Mr. Kenney suggests the rumour might have been concocted by “overheated Sikhs using the race card, which they so often do when their credentials are being questioned.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080411.wcontapes0411/BNStory/National/home

I guess statements like this, certainly qualifies Kenney for his present job as Secretary of State for Multiculturism

 
IDIOTS!  Why do people tape record racist, ignorant remarks when they are in politics?  That's almost as bright as taking your picture with an abused prisoner at Abu-Graihb.
 
SGF

Your thinly veiled attacks.. oh wait, they're not even veiled.
But this is getting tiring.  This is small potatoes compared to the scandals
the liberals have done and are still probably doing.  Many examples have already
been brought up to you.  Why do you continue this childish tit for tat behavior???

Edit
Really, the only reason this story has "legs" is the MSM and opposition parties want to try and stick the CPC with something, anything in the way of a scandal.

If they can go back 16 years to find a videotape of a person who was then a private citizen, I wonder why they can't seem to investigate where the $40 million unaccounted for ADSCAM dollars went, or who really owns that hotel and golf course in Shawinigan, or who leaked the information about Trust Funds in 2005? You know, real scandals with real financial consequences to taxpaying Canadians........
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/72681/post-697713.html#msg697713

The best response from the last tit for tat anti conservative thread. 
 
Trinity, are you saying these remarks never happened? Call it an attack,thats fine. It was reported in the Globe. Many posters post feel good reports about the Tories, I am just making one thats not so feel good.
 
sgf said:
Trinity, are you saying these remarks never happened?

What in my post makes you think that??
I bet if I search long and hard in your career I could come up with something offensive you said.
I'm sure if you look at me 10 years ago I've said stupid things too. 

When you have a real scandal... then I'll actually support you in an examination and discussion
of the issue.  But these are so minor it's not even funny.  I'm all for accountability of people
in office but it needs to be relevant, current and/or serious offense or serious breach of trust.
 
Trinity said:
SGF

Your thinly veiled attacks.. oh wait, they're not even veiled.
But this is getting tiring.  This is small potatoes compared to the scandals
the liberals have done and are still probably doing.  Many examples have already
been brought up to you.  Why do you continue this childish tit for tat behavior???

Edithttp://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/72681/post-697713.html#msg697713

The best response from the last tit for tat anti conservative thread. 

So what you are insinuating, Trinity, is that to be a member of this forum one must be a neoconservative. And that opinions that do not fall within these guidelines are not tolerated here?

And before I get flamed for this, please note that I vote for the candidate that I believe will do the best job for my riding, and not along political lines.
 
As far as I'm concerned, the Liberals pulling this shows that they have nothing else say.  I think Dion is a great leader for the liberals, as long as he's in charge they never will be.
 
Rodahn said:
So what you are insinuating, Trinity, is that to be a member of this forum one must be a neoconservative. And that opinions that do not fall within these guidelines are not tolerated here?

And before I get flamed for this, please note that I vote for the candidate that I believe will do the best job for my riding, and not along political lines.

Not at all.  I was NDP for a long time and probably would still be but for Jack .. well being Jack.

What I'm saying is it's been done to death and already decided that piddly attacks are just a waste of time
and embarrassing at best if that is what passes as scandals.

http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/72681.0.html

 
OK. Let's put party allegiance aside for a moment and look at this 'supposed' indiscretion. Never mind that it happened years ago.

What is the hubub over his statement? Is it untrue? Not in my experience. Anyone that thinks it is untrue, is living in a bubble.

Is it politically incorrect? Maybe, but everyonce in awhile, someone is going to speak the truth and some people aren't going to like it. Too bad.

It doesn't seem to affect the fine job Kenney has been doing since he's had the portfolio.

So what I see is a party that is possibly paying people to sift through old records and tapes to see if they can find something that may be potentially embarrassing to the CPC.

Given the date on the stuff, and the fizzle nature of the exposures, it shows a distinct sign of desperation.

Milnet.ca Poster

Now, I'll put my mod hat on:

This thread will not be a repeat of the other one, that got locked because individuals could not play nice and follow direction. If it goes down that path. It'll be shut down. So act accordingly. If the same posters are the cause, by doing the same, you'll likely hit the ramp this time.

Milnet.ca Staff

 
So, there is no truth in the rumor that the Cons are going to adopt the following as their election song?

That old Brenda Lee Classic, goes like this

I'm sorry, so sorry
That I was such a fool
I didn't know
Love politics could be so cruel
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don't right
The wrong that's been done


I just couldnt resist.. !!
;) ;)
 
Following a mod warning, not very "intelligent" post, don't you think ?

Except if you want to be on the ramp ...

I know it is sometimes difficult to resist fingers on keyboard. Just open a note on your computer when that happen ....
 
sgf said:
So, there is no truth in the rumor that the Cons are going to adopt the following as their election song?

That old Brenda Lee Classic, goes like this

I'm sorry, so sorry
That I was such a fool
I didn't know
Love politics could be so cruel
Oh, oh, oh, oh
Uh-oh
Oh, yes

You tell me mistakes
Are part of being young
But that don't right
The wrong that's been done


I just couldnt resist.. !!
;) ;)

Some people's children. ::)

Can't say you weren't warned. Hope it was worth it.
 
aw come on, i was only making a joke.. sorry if you are offended
 
sgf said:
aw come on, i was only making a joke.. sorry if you are offended
Why would I be offended? I consider the source.

You were warned about trolling and you ignored it. No one's fault but your own.

End of hijack, back on subject.

Milnet.ca Staff
 
I said some dumb, politically incorrect things 8 to 17 years ago too...I guess I'm not fit for public office no matter what my constituents think.  ::)
 
sgf

The conservative members in question did dumb stuff years ago, and apologies were made.  I'm still waiting for the Liberal Party of Canada to apologize for stealing uncounted millions from the people of Canada.  I've stopped holding my breath waiting for the Liberal Party of Canada to apologize for saddling us with "Human Rights" Commissions hell bent on quashing free speech.  I definitely am not waiting for the Liberal Party of Canada to apologize for attempting that old fascist practice of "gleichschaltung".  Compared to the sins of the libs, stupid words uttered by a pair of conservatives years ago (and let the first politician to never say stupid crap cast the first stone - I dare you Headless Fry) are nothing.  Grow up sunshine.

Geez...
 
I feel obliged to point out that the Tories are the subjects of massive man crushes by the majority of the active members on this web site.  Love the hand that feeds you, so to say.  These scandals have been routinely dismissed on these boards as feeble, underhanded attempts to embarrass the govt by the opposition.  That is true, but it also cannot be ignored that these recordings are proving to the public one crucial fact: that the tories are the bigoted rednecks the Liberals and NDP made them out to be.  Of course members of the NDP and Liberals have said the exact same things-they are after all, old white men, but not around microphones LOL.

Its time for some hardcore damage control.
 
Philltaj said:
I feel obliged to point out that the Tories are the subjects of massive man crushes by the majority of the active members on this web site.  Love the hand that feeds you, so to say.  These scandals have been routinely dismissed on these boards as feeble, underhanded attempts to embarrass the govt by the opposition.  That is true, but it also cannot be ignored that these recordings are proving to the public one crucial fact: that the tories are the bigoted rednecks the Liberals and NDP made them out to be.  Of course members of the NDP and Liberals have said the exact same things-they are after all, old white men, but not around microphones LOL.

Its time for some hardcore damage control.

Careful. You're coming pretty close to a personal attack, even if it's collective. If you can't be civil, find somewhere else to vent.
 
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