Sterling

[MG34]

Despite all the moaning and folks singing the praises of the C1 SMG,it is gone and for the better.Pistol caliber SMGs are soon to be as extinct as the dinosaurs in military circle,and indeed in most police forces. They cannot penetrate targets with  body armour,nor can the p[enetrate soft skin vehicles with any reliability. The rifle caliber carbine is the way to go and has been for quite some time,espescially in military circles,Canada is just waking up to this and did something about it with the introduction of the C8. Yes the SMG was coll to carry and what not but it fired a FMJ 9mm round one of the most ineffective wounding projectiles out there today.
(BTW IVI 9mm ammo has not changed    : )

 

[TCBF]

That's why I own a 10 mm Colt DE.  ;D

 

[MG34]

That's why I own a 10 mm Colt DE.   ;D

Wow a obsolete round in and equally obsolete pistol,you must be so pround. ;D Too bad we are talking service weapons here not personal collections,I'd still rather have 5.56mm carbine than any pistol caliber,but hey what ever floats yer boat so to speak.

 

[TCBF]

"Wow a obsolete round in and equally obsolete pistol,you must be so pround"

- I like old things.  ;D. 

"I'd still rather have 5.56mm carbine than any pistol caliber..."

- Me too.  Something AKR/AKSU/Whatever.  Too bad Gene Stoner had to put that spring in the darn butt!

 

[MG34]

The collapsing butt is better than a folder for any number of reasons,such as the folder is a constant length and is non adjustable,it is either folded or fully extended.A collapsable stock can be adjusted for body armour,different firing positions,and extra clothing. You can keep your  AKSU scrap metal,I would like to actually hit what I'm aiming at beyond 50m.

 

[TCBF]

I will reserve my opinion until my firing trials are done. ;D

 

[Colin2]

I carried one as a Gun commander, normally with the 10 rd mag in it. The cocking handle (got one at home to remind me, along with a few mags) used to stick you in the back or any other place it could. Also the folding stock could pinch the unwary finger.

It was a great little weapon and with a little training you can be quite deadly with it. The biggest problem we had with them was the mags, they were getting old and beat up. For all the people talking about how good their replacements are, perhaps better to compare a new SMG against your favorite weapon or wait 30 years, I bet the SMG will still work well when it is 80 years old!

Funny to watch someone smack the base of the mag like they saw in the movies and have their bullets fall out of the ejection port. Also people that would hold the mag rather than the forestock caused themselves problems

As for the bayonet, well a soldier just had to have a bayonet right? Good for crowd control. Mind you even my  Webely .455 had a bayonet for fighting in 1914

 

[sasquatch]

I have fired the sterling SMG on several occassions ( albeit 28 years ago) and there are a few things that I did not like. First the weapon had a tendancy to climb up when you were shooting on full auto. The models that my unit were equipped with had a 30 round magazine. This is OK on a firing range but not so great in the field.

The damn thing also had a tendancy to jam! 
But I will say that it was pretty damned good weapon under 50 yards.

 

[Black Watch]

Does anyone have the field manual for it, as well as the fnc1 (I turned out to be a collector)

 

[Spr.Earl]

Did anybody used the Sterling smg???? If so, how was it?

Fun,but very dangerous as it could fire a whole 30 rnds off if you knocked it the wrong way when cocked!!
Been there and had it happen. :

Easy to clean,simple to use.
It's a house clearing,trench weapon.
Easy to fix for our use,just up date the trigger mechanism,lengthen the barrel a bit for range and voila a good piece of kit.
It's just a blow back system with out all the fancy gas regulators,pistons,etc.
Just up date it and we have a good weapon.

 

[TCBF]

"Fun,but very dangerous as it could fire a whole 30 rnds off if you knocked it the wrong way when cocked!!
Been there and had it happen"

- A clean, serviceable, SMG 9mm C1, would not do that on 'Safe' with the finger off the trigger.

Tom

 

[George Wallace]

Four pages on the Sterling and we have bounced from one extreme to the other and mix and matched a lot of rumours and facts.  :warstory:

 

[Spr.Earl]

"Fun,but very dangerous as it could fire a whole 30 rnds off if you knocked it the wrong way when cocked!!
Been there and had it happen"

- A clean, seviceable, SMG 9mm C1, would not do that on 'Safe' with the finger off the trigger.

Tom

Tom it was on safe,and thank god it was blanks!

 

[TCBF]

"Four pages on the Sterling and we have bounced from one extreme to the other and mix and matched a lot of rumours and facts."

- Hey, you want sacrilege?  I just posted that we should have bought the M48 rather than the Centurion on the MGS thread.  See you in Pet next Monday night.  ;D

"Tom it was on safe,and thank god it was blanks!"

- Another bloody NS SMG!    ;D

Tom

 

[Black Watch]

was the firing pin that sensitive?

 

[1feral1]

was the firing pin that sensitive?

The FP on the C1 SMG is fixed, that being machined on to the bolt. All one piece, with the only moving part on the entire bolt is the extractor.

 

[TCBF]

"I once dropped my M242 25mm autocannon, and it ran dry both the primary and secondary bins - 150 rounds of C-137 APFSDS-T and 60 rounds of C-138 FAPDS-T."

There, beat THAT you Sterling Story Commandos!

;D

(The above was typed with a 120mm TPDS-T dart, used pointy end first.)

Tom

 

[KevinB]

Bored aren't you...

You need a C8CQB  ;D

 

[Danjanou]

Old Soldiers + Boredom + Internet access = bad combination ;D

 

[Black Watch]

Old Soldiers + Boredom + Internet access = bad combination ;D

new soldiers+CFLRS food+air force instructors=weird bmq