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Supplier Under Scrutiny on Aging Arms for Afghans

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/world/asia/27ammo.html?ei=5088&en=c04d359666276ec5&ex=1364270400&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

Since 2006, when the insurgency in Afghanistan sharply intensified, the Afghan government has been dependent on American logistics and military support in the war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

But to arm the Afghan forces that it hopes will lead this fight, the American military has relied since early last year on a fledgling company led by a 22-year-old man whose vice president was a licensed masseur.

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But problems with the ammunition were evident last fall in places like Nawa, Afghanistan, an outpost near the Pakistani border, where an Afghan lieutenant colonel surveyed the rifle cartridges on his police station’s dirty floor. Soon after arriving there, the cardboard boxes had split open and their contents spilled out, revealing ammunition manufactured in China in 1966.

Interesting article in the NYT...
 
1966.

Well, as long as the ammo is stored correctly, 1966 is not an issue. We shot Chi-Com ammo dated 1961. The way the Com Blocs store ammo is unique. Well built wooden crates, inside two sealed gaint span cans. Open it, and even after 40 yrs, its like the day it was made.

Media hype as usual IMHO.

Cheers,

Wes
 
Arm dealer's dad wanted 'nice' doctor son

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/28/arms.dealer/index.html
 
Wesley  Down Under said:
1966.

Well, as long as the ammo is stored correctly, 1966 is not an issue. We shot Chi-Com ammo dated 1961. The way the Com Blocs store ammo is unique. Well built wooden crates, inside two sealed gaint span cans. Open it, and even after 40 yrs, its like the day it was made.

Media hype as usual IMHO.

Cheers,

Wes

There's a sticky in the milsurp section of CGN detailing how to open a crate of surplus Czech 7.62 x 39 by the user Proutfoo. I think it's the same setup as you described.

These are his pictures from the stickied thread

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The sticky on CGN is well placed.  Those things are a cast-iron you-know-what to open if you don't do it right.
 
Wesley:

Two problems with this:

(1) The US forbids the purchase of ChiCom ammo in their contracts, so this company violated the terms of the contract.

(2) To save on shipping, the brilliant minds broke open all the cases and dumped the wooden crates and metal cans.  Not such a great idea...
 
DAP,
It would appear that this Miami based supplier got rid of the ChiCom packaging in order to conceal the sleight of hand.
Then, instead of investing in sturdy triwall packing boxes or woden crates, they used standard cardboard containers for delivery to Afghanistan.....

NICE!
 
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