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Taliban 'in control' in Helmand

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Taliban 'in control' in Helmand 
By James Bays, Helmand province, Afghanistan



The Taliban say they operate
unchallenged in many areas
Al Jazeera has uncovered evidence that Taliban fighters are now in effective control of large parts of a key province in southwest Afghanistan, despite recent claims by Nato that their bases had been destroyed.

James Bays spent two days with the Taliban in Helmand and found that the group is running schools and medical facilities, and is travelling armed and unchallenged by Nato-led forces. Here is his report:

Behind Taliban lines, we travelled with a group of fighters across the deserts of Helmand province.

These hardened men are well-armed, ready for battle - and they told me they are ready for martyrdom too.

The journeys are often at break-neck speed – because of the risk of Nato air strikes.

Nato may be the master the skies - but the Taliban claim that they control large swathes of territory on the ground.

They took us on a trip - to show us how they operate almost unhindered in many areas.

New weapons

The group operates not only in rural areas but also towns such as Sangin.

The Taliban say they have new
anti-aircraft weapons
We filmed along the main street, past the shopping bazaar.

There were Taliban fighters - with weapons - everywhere, and no sign of Nato or Afghan forces.

We filmed from a car, occupied by heavily armed Taliban fighters, yet the vehicle drove straight past the compound housing the British troops based in the town.

The Taliban fighters claim the British are too scared to even leave their base.

The sound of aircraft can be heard - but the fighters are not afraid - they dismissively call the planes "Bush’s kites".

And they claim soon they will soon be using a new anti-aircraft weapons.

One fighter said: "We are not scared of their aircraft - God is with us. We are not scared of anything."

'Spy' hanged

For a time, there was confusion about our permission to film.

This suspected spy was hanged by the Taliban
We were detained - and our telephones and camera were taken, but we were treated extremely well.

Those the Taliban find guilty of a crime are dealt with much more harshly.

This is the body of a man hanged by the Taliban.

They say he was a spy for the Americans - he was carrying an ID card from the US government development agency USAid.

We were also shown where Nato bombs have fallen.

Desert rally

While we travelled around, there were times when we were not allowed to film - because the Taliban do not want Nato to see pictures of the defences inside their villages.

And when The Taliban took us to a mass rally clearly arranged for us to film, it was somewhat unnerving standing in the desert with such a large group - over 400 Taliban fighters.

Youngsters joined a Taliban rally in
Helmand province
They were even youngsters holding weapons.

Some were no more than 12-years old while others carried their ammunition in UN food bags.

The district commander showed me all the land he claims is controlled by his men.

"Out of 100 per cent, the British don't even control one per cent of Helmand," he said.

He told me the Taliban is not just a military organisation - he said they have appointed a governor in Helmand  and it is now running medical clinics and madrassas or religious schools.



I realize it's from Al Jazeera, but I thought it would be interesting in that it shows what the other sides media is portraying.
 
Ah shucks, looks like the wars over then doesnt it? :crybaby: We all better pack up and leave. I've never known Al-Jazeera to show anything that isnt 100% totally factually accurate. And so if Terry says he's in control he must be in control, those Brits in Helmund are terrified of a bunch of dirt farmers with AK's older then Jesus.
Wait a minute!...
 
The damage isn't done until it hits mainstream media.

What can I say ? The Brits made a mistake. (negotiating)

It had to be done - the object lesson is valuable.
( for everyone who says we have to negotiate )

It won't happen again.

In terms of this spring.......
Would you rather be one of us....... or one of them?

Perhaps if we sent Jack Layton and Lloyd Axeworthy over for a shura....





 
It shall not be long before a new NATO offensive in that region, I suspect
 
Isn't there something in the Geneva Conventions about using pathetic socialist whiners like Axworthy and Layton being a form of prohibited weapon? God knows I'm finding that having to listen to them is cruel and unusual punishment.

Al Jazeera - ah, the proverbial bastion of truth - from what other media outlet could I have learned the true beast of Zionism - that Jews in Israel drink the blood of infant Muslims....... I don't even know if the Enquirer can keep up with the drivel.

The Brits most probably negotiated once to show the world that it doesn't work with fanatics.

Consider also that allowing the Taliban to come up out of their caves and assemble brings your target into the open - makes for a cleaner shot, and less overall ammo expenditure.
 
St. Micheals Medical Team said:
It shall not be long before a new NATO offensive in that region, I suspect

      You got that right SMMT. Anyone who thinks the British are scared of the Taliban please read article below.

UK troops help smash Taleban base
An operation by British and Afghan government forces to destroy a Taleban stronghold was a "great success", according to the Ministry of Defence.
More than 250 UK Nato forces took part in the operation in Garmsir, regarded as a gateway to the Helmand province of southern Afghanistan.

The MoD said a complex of Taleban bases had been demolished.

Lt Col Rob MaGowan said: "We achieved our objective of destroying and clearing Taliban compounds."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6379393.stm

   
 
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