'Taliban surrounded' outside Kandahar

[vonGarvin]

As I said earlier, the performance of the ANSF (ANA, ANP, etc) seemed promising; it appears (and I could be wrong) that we didn't need to hold their hand like this time last year.  That, IMHO, is a real victory.

Well said, Infanteer.  Sounds like you had AWESOME staff on DP 1.1 rofl 
But, in all seriousness, I think that THIS is one of the benchmarks for Canada's victory conditions in Afghanistan.  Not "destruction of the TB" but rather drawing down our "kinetic" (GOD, how I hate that term, given that kinetics is defined as, "of, relating to, or produced by motion."  So, does this mean that NDHQ is "non-kinetic"?  Oh, how I digress...) forces and go more on the 'non-kinetic' (sic) forces.

So, less on the lethal, more on the non-lethal and that actual nation building.  Keeping that in mind, look at what Infanteer posted and realise that given that the ANSF were at least able to be a hell of a lot more active on this, we are well on our way (Sunil Ram's assessment that "the Karzai Government has no control and situation in Afstan is deteriorating because a whole TWO rockets were launched" be damned)

 

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Ummm.... two rockets were fired?... the TB fire rockets all the time & all over the place.
A bit like the Palestinians, the launchers are most usually non existant so, when the rocket fires, it can and does go pert much everywhere.  If the MND hadn,t of been there, it would have been another day in paradise (not!) and the rockets might / might not have come.