The Arctic

[Czech_pivo]

The rail line from Thompson, MB (I think) to Churchill is not in good repair. It is nasty terrain - muskeg, swamps etc - to build and maintain a rail line.
Mind you we did (at least our forefathers) built a rail line through mountains, forests and muskeg.

That is still in use today, with greater frequency and greater weight capability 130+yrs later.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

The rail line from Thompson, MB (I think) to Churchill is not in good repair. It is nasty terrain - muskeg, swamps etc - to build and maintain a rail line.
Mind you we did (at least our forefathers) built a rail line through mountains, forests and muskeg.

That is why it's interesting to me and tbh, being part of a Nation Building exercise for us that significant in scope has a lot of appeal to me.

My grandfather was a geologist and prospector and worked on teams that discovered and helped develop some really significant mineral/energy resources that provided generational wealth to Canadians. Being part of and contributing to something like that would be awesome.

As for the rail line, it would require constant maintenance but this is no different than our current Transcon Lines. The Lines through Northern Ontario require near constant maintenance to keep speed and traffic flowing.

 

[The Bread Guy]

I didn't expect that last one.

Noone does ...

 

[Spencer100]

There won't be a port on Hudson Bay. The minister for Parks Canada has a plan. There is a reason Steve Guilbeault kept Parks when he was moved to Canadian Identity and Culture. Watch for a huge park along a the east coast of Hudson Bay.

 

[daftandbarmy]

There won't be a port on Hudson Bay. The minister for Parks Canada has a plan. There is a reason Steve Guilbeault kept Parks when he was moved to Canadian Identity and Culture. Watch for a huge park along a the east coast of Hudson Bay.

It would be fun to watch him try to go up against a new PM who wants to make an example early on in his tenure

 

[SeaKingTacco]

It would be fun to watch him try to go up against a new PM who wants to make an example early on in his tenure

And a CPC party that just might watch from the sidelines in amusement, if not actually support the PM in laying the boots to him?

 

[OldSolduer]

And a CPC party that just might watch from the sidelines in amusement, if not actually support the PM in laying the boots to him?

Pass the fuckin popcorn

 

[PrairieFella]

There won't be a port on Hudson Bay. The minister for Parks Canada has a plan. There is a reason Steve Guilbeault kept Parks when he was moved to Canadian Identity and Culture. Watch for a huge park along a the east coast of Hudson Bay.

East Coast is fine. It's the South and West coast we're interested in.

 

[Spencer100]

It would be fun to watch him try to go up against a new PM who wants to make an example early on in his tenure

He put him there in the first place. The new PM doesn't want to get resources to market. He's wants it left in the ground.

 

[Kirkhill]

He put him there in the first place. The new PM doesn't want to get resources to market. He's wants it left in the ground.

Wait out!

 

[YZT580]

Wait out!

We cannot afford to wait. Carney is on record many times for being against oil production. Hell, he even started an entire business enterprise based upon refusing financing to projects that weren't green. I doubt that has changed but in order to hoodwink the voter he is paying lip service to the concept while keeping the brakes on. Why else would he insist upon consensus regarding development? Quebec says no to a pipeline no problem, there will be no pipeline but it isn't Carney who is saying no. He is allowing others to do His dirty work. He still has most of Trudeau's cabinet in place all be it in different portfolios. The conversation at the cabinet meetings probably hasn't changed much.

Giving way on the military front is simply good politics. He will spend as little as he figures he can get away with and on as few things that go bang as is absolutely needed.

Carney is a banker. Bankers don't make too many bold decisions. Banks are stable because they maintain the status quo. The bank of Canada rate isn't set by the boss it is agreed upon by a select group of financiers who meet virtually on a monthly basis and game the previous month and try to read the Chrystal ball. It is their consensus that the head of the bank relays to the public. Consensus can be a very bad word. It often means that everyone is disappointed. Consensus stops innovation in its tracks.

 

[Underway]

The rail line from Thompson, MB (I think) to Churchill is not in good repair. It is nasty terrain - muskeg, swamps etc - to build and maintain a rail line.

It wasn't in good repair. Its been fixed now. They are working on repairing the port after years of neglect as well. This year has a bunch of nickle and potash being shipped out of Churchill.

 

[Kirkhill]

We cannot afford to wait. Carney is on record many times for being against oil production. Hell, he even started an entire business enterprise based upon refusing financing to projects that weren't green. I doubt that has changed but in order to hoodwink the voter he is paying lip service to the concept while keeping the brakes on. Why else would he insist upon consensus regarding development? Quebec says no to a pipeline no problem, there will be no pipeline but it isn't Carney who is saying no. He is allowing others to do His dirty work. He still has most of Trudeau's cabinet in place all be it in different portfolios. The conversation at the cabinet meetings probably hasn't changed much.

Giving way on the military front is simply good politics. He will spend as little as he figures he can get away with and on as few things that go bang as is absolutely needed.

Carney is a banker. Bankers don't make too many bold decisions. Banks are stable because they maintain the status quo. The bank of Canada rate isn't set by the boss it is agreed upon by a select group of financiers who meet virtually on a monthly basis and game the previous month and try to read the Chrystal ball. It is their consensus that the head of the bank relays to the public. Consensus can be a very bad word. It often means that everyone is disappointed. Consensus stops innovation in its tracks.

We can afford to wait.

The election was April 28
The throne speech was May 27
First Ministers meeting June 2
Enabling legislation June 6
Defence speech June 9

This chappy is not sitting still.

For good or ill we will have his measure soon.

 

[Czech_pivo]

We cannot afford to wait. Carney is on record many times for being against oil production. Hell, he even started an entire business enterprise based upon refusing financing to projects that weren't green. I doubt that has changed but in order to hoodwink the voter he is paying lip service to the concept while keeping the brakes on. Why else would he insist upon consensus regarding development? Quebec says no to a pipeline no problem, there will be no pipeline but it isn't Carney who is saying no. He is allowing others to do His dirty work. He still has most of Trudeau's cabinet in place all be it in different portfolios. The conversation at the cabinet meetings probably hasn't changed much.

Giving way on the military front is simply good politics. He will spend as little as he figures he can get away with and on as few things that go bang as is absolutely needed.

Carney is a banker. Bankers don't make too many bold decisions. Banks are stable because they maintain the status quo. The bank of Canada rate isn't set by the boss it is agreed upon by a select group of financiers who meet virtually on a monthly basis and game the previous month and try to read the Chrystal ball. It is their consensus that the head of the bank relays to the public. Consensus can be a very bad word. It often means that everyone is disappointed. Consensus stops innovation in its tracks.

Carney was an INVESTMENT banker in the real world- quite a different breed of banker - at what is really the premier investment banking firm, Goldman Sachs, known more prominently in the investment world as just 'Goldman'. They play the long game, to make piles of generational wealth (not money, but wealth, there is a big difference between the two) and they play to win, to crush their opponents no matter what the cost. Goldman is a really a 'brotherhood' that exists around the world, across all western themed economies and they use their connections very very well.

Carney doesn't need Quebec to be playing nice if the decision is made to use Churchill as a eastern facing outlet to Europe (and the US?) for oil and/or LNG. Quebec doesn't need to be in the picture at all for this to work. Push the oil out of Churchill and out to Europe, to Saint John's and Irving's refinery (which it was just announced is going to have a few hundred million dollar refurbishment to it), Shipping oil to Saint John's will help reduce the need for foreign oil to the Maritimes.

And, as others have pointed out, Carney is moving at what is considered 'breakneck' speed in the political world. He fully realises that he needs to be seen as moving the peanut up the hill ASAP. He gets it, as do the majority of the Premiers. When you have an NDP Premier (who is Indigenous) in Manitoba saying 'yes' to an oil/gas pipeline through to northern Manitoba, through Indigenous lands, you have to come to the conclusion that the need for this cuts across existing party dogma and that it truly is a nation building (saving?) undertaking.

 

[PrairieFella]

Carney was an INVESTMENT banker in the real world- quite a different breed of banker - at what is really the premier investment banking firm, Goldman Sachs, known more prominently in the investment world as just 'Goldman'. They play the long game, to make piles of generational wealth (not money, but wealth, there is a big difference between the two) and they play to win, to crush their opponents no matter what the cost. Goldman is a really a 'brotherhood' that exists around the world, across all western themed economies and they use their connections very very well.

Carney doesn't need Quebec to be playing nice if the decision is made to use Churchill as a eastern facing outlet to Europe (and the US?) for oil and/or LNG. Quebec doesn't need to be in the picture at all for this to work. Push the oil out of Churchill and out to Europe, to Saint John's and Irving's refinery (which it was just announced is going to have a few hundred million dollar refurbishment to it), Shipping oil to Saint John's will help reduce the need for foreign oil to the Maritimes.

And, as others have pointed out, Carney is moving at what is considered 'breakneck' speed in the political world. He fully realises that he needs to be seen as moving the peanut up the hill ASAP. He gets it, as do the majority of the Premiers. When you have an NDP Premier (who is Indigenous) in Manitoba saying 'yes' to an oil/gas pipeline through to northern Manitoba, through Indigenous lands, you have to come to the conclusion that the need for this cuts across existing party dogma and that it truly is a nation building (saving?) undertaking.

Hear hear

 

[YZT580]

Carney was an INVESTMENT banker in the real world- quite a different breed of banker - at what is really the premier investment banking firm, Goldman Sachs, known more prominently in the investment world as just 'Goldman'. They play the long game, to make piles of generational wealth (not money, but wealth, there is a big difference between the two) and they play to win, to crush their opponents no matter what the cost. Goldman is a really a 'brotherhood' that exists around the world, across all western themed economies and they use their connections very very well.

Carney doesn't need Quebec to be playing nice if the decision is made to use Churchill as a eastern facing outlet to Europe (and the US?) for oil and/or LNG. Quebec doesn't need to be in the picture at all for this to work. Push the oil out of Churchill and out to Europe, to Saint John's and Irving's refinery (which it was just announced is going to have a few hundred million dollar refurbishment to it), Shipping oil to Saint John's will help reduce the need for foreign oil to the Maritimes.

And, as others have pointed out, Carney is moving at what is considered 'breakneck' speed in the political world. He fully realises that he needs to be seen as moving the peanut up the hill ASAP. He gets it, as do the majority of the Premiers. When you have an NDP Premier (who is Indigenous) in Manitoba saying 'yes' to an oil/gas pipeline through to northern Manitoba, through Indigenous lands, you have to come to the conclusion that the need for this cuts across existing party dogma and that it truly is a nation building (saving?) undertaking.

I truly hope you are right. We will know when the shovels hit the ground and if they do I will be happy to admit that I misjudged him. But it will be the first time in recorded history when a leopard has changed it spots