The Canadian Airborne Regiment, 1968-1995 (merged)

[helpup]

I didn't ask the Crew Chief when we were in them but being inside them they have a ramp and can vary their speed.  Put a anchor line cable in there with a retrieval system you should be able to.  But for the size of the airframe, mass drop I would go with something bigger. 

I do like the suggestion about Canada needing it though. Why jump troops out when you can land them in most places.  It would be a nice fit for a MAJAG.  Mind you refueling and speed is better then a chopper their max endurance is still going to be less then fixed winged.  As far as I know they are not refuelable in the air.  I was shown they were refuelable in air so as long as you have the gas plane in the right area your good to go.  ;D

(note, we got back recently working in Yuma with the Marines, the Coy got a fair amount of experience with the Sea Knight, Stallion and Osprey.  all were impressed with what the Osprey could do. Most didn't like the amount of hydraulic fluid or outright fuel that leaked out of most of them and the old Sea Knight was just plain fun and clean to ride in.)

 

[aesop081]

As far as I know they are not refuelable in the air.

They certainly can :

 

[aesop081]

As far as parachuting goes......

 

[helpup]

LMAO I knew I should of took some time to google it.  Just going on the ones we worked with and no I didnt specifically ask if they were.  I will edit the last post Aviator

We used them but  at times it was more like the Aircrews used us as ballast. It was a Ex for them after all our Msn's on the ground were a after thought.  Still we are trying to do more trg with them in the future and they like that we are available for that type of trg.

and I did say I didnt see why not for the para ability.  As to it's usefullness however I would stick with a larger air frame

 

[aesop081]

LMAO I knew I should of took some time to google it. 

LOL, it's ok, aviation is kinda my thing ya know  ;D

and I did say I didnt see why not for the para ability. 

It was in response to someone asking if the Osprey could do it.

 

[Journeyman]

It would be a nice fit for a MAJAG. 

OK, given your track record on air-to-air refueling and parachuting, I'm hesitant to ask......what's a MAJAG?

 

[dapaterson]

OK, given your track record on air-to-air refueling and parachuting, I'm hesitant to ask......what's a MAJAG?

Perhaps a MAJAID?

MajaG is this flickr user: http://www.flickr.com/photos/19157756@N02/

 

[a_majoor]

We could always dust off [url-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_CL-84]this[/url]:

 

[wildman0101]

Taken from C.F.B. Petawawa Website: History
April 1, 1977, 2 Combat Group was disbanded and **combined**
with the Canadian Airborne Regiment to form the Special Service Force.

8-ch(P.L.) was one of the Regiment's that formed the 1st Special Service Force: AKA our world renowned "Devil's Brigade"


Sorry should have read:

8-ch(P.L.) was one of the Regiment's that formed the Special Service Force in 1977 along with other Regt's ect in my initial post.

Cheer's,
Scoty B (owe ya a beer-Journeyman)
I do believe the 8-CH was engaged with the 1st Special Service Force in some operation's
during WW2. Will look that up if your interested.

 

[Journeyman]

Cheer's,
Scoty B (owe ya a beer-Journeyman)

No worries. I made a mistake....once.....but her divorce lawyer sorted that one out for us. 

 

[Teflon]

From todays Edmonton Sun:

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/06/13/airborne-regiment-vets-want-apology

Airborne Regiment launches petition

OTTAWA, ON - Former members of the Canadian Airborne want their regiment back and are launching a petition to complete their mission.

"What this regiment has accomplished was never brought to light; however, due to the Liberal decimation of the forces and discipline in the army - the actions of two soldiers disgraced the regiment, the men and its colours," said Gord Hockridge, a retired Airborne engineer who launched the petition.

MP Cheryl Gallant, who represents CFB Petawawa, sent a draft of the petition to the clerk of the House of Commons, to ensure the document is in the proper format.

The petition calls for an apology, reinstatement of the battle honours "colours" and eventual reinstatement of the Airborne Regiment.

The elite regiment was disbanded in 1995 after teenager Shidane Arone was beaten to death in 1993 while in Canadian custody during the United Nations mission to Somalia.

While the killing and subsequent public inquiry dominated the headlines, a former medic who was there said Canadian soldiers helped reverse the country's famine.

"We were in a country at war, we were not in a peacekeeping mission. It was like living in an ashtray," said retired sergeant Greg Janes.

Janes, past president of the Airborne Regiment Association of Canada, worked alongside the U.S. Green Berets and Airborne Rangers, groups whose experiences in Somalia were later depicted in the film, Black Hawk Down.

"An apology is warranted and necessary for the 1,400 people who were there and did everything right," Janes said. "Let the guilty be punished."

During the mission, Lt.-Gen. Robert B. Johnston, the U.S. commander in charge of the operation, wrote a strong letter to the chief of defence staff, praising the Canadian Airborne.

"It should be no surprise that the Canadian Airborne Regiment worked most effectively with relief workers and, in fact, delivered several thousand metric tons of relief supplies," Johnston wrote in May 1, 1993.

"The Canadian forces took the initiative to provide security for a number of large convoys ... there was no mission the Canadians were not willing to handle.

"The devastating effect of the famine was quickly reversed."

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's office has not yet responded to the request for an apology.

 

[PanaEng]

Alternately, this may be a sign that Canadian geography warrants stronger consideration of V-22 type airframes.
In the case of ideas, as opposed to Oscars and Grammys, it is not an honour just to be considered.  It is not uncommon for bad ideas to make it all the way into war gamming before being recognized as what they are.  Where strategic lines of communication cannot accommodate the insertion and sustainment of a humanitarian assistance force, I would question the wisdom of parachuting in a team with limited specialist support and no major equipment so that they too might become part of the mouths-to-feed problem.

What MCG is saying is that those 3 inf coys needed a troop of Engineers with hvy equipment in order to secure the Airport, and repair it.

Chimo!