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The Capt. Trevor Greene Thread

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Just a sign of things to come.....

Speedy recovery to the soldier.....and kudos to the guy who droped the scumbag.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060304/afghan_soldier_060304/20060304?hub=TopStories

Canadian soldier wounded in Afghanistan firefight

Updated Sat. Mar. 4 2006 8:14 AM ET

Canadian Press

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan — A Canadian soldier was wounded after assailants opened fire on a military patrol in Gumbad, 70 kilometres north of Kandahar City, said John Morris, a spokesman for the Department of Defence.

The soldier, whose name has not been released, was airlifted by U.S. helicopter to the Canadian-led multinational hospital at Kandahar airfield. A military official told CBC the soldier suffered head wounds.

Canadian troops killed one of the attackers, but the number of assailants is not known.
 
I am going into work today to teach Tactical medicine/Cbt first aid TMST to members of the Battlegroup heading off in Aug...
If they do not pay attention to our instruction after this last 3 days, then they never will...

Hope for a speedy recovery. The care they are getting there is the best the CF can provide.
 
The troops from 2 Field Amb are going to be busy on this one methinks.....

Regards
 
"For there shall be no reward to the evil man, the candle of the wicked shall be put out" Proverbs 24-20

There should be no question in anyones mind in regards to our mission in Afghanistan, it is times like there we need solidarity, and the backing of the canadian public.

My apologies for the biblica quote, i am by no means religious, but the old adage " no athiests in foxholes" holds true.
 
Franko said:
Speedy recovery to the soldier.....and kudos to the guy who droped the scumbag.

DITTO!  Now maybe people will take training a little more seriously - and maybe give us a budget for things like, oh let me think, bullets and range time, consumable medical supplies for training (my pitch for med trg  ;D) and time and personnel to do it all properly.

MM
 
medicineman said:
DITTO!  Now maybe people will take training a little more seriously - and maybe give us a budget for things like, oh let me think, bullets and range time, consumable medical supplies for training (my pitch for med trg  ;D) and time and personnel to do it all properly.

MM

I hope that our experiences in Afgh will make us take many things more seriously. All of the best wishes from everybody at CFC to the wounded soldiers of the last few days, and to the family of the fallen Patricia. His father's words set an example that I don't think very many of us could ever match if we were to lose a child.

The months (and years) ahead are going to test both the CF (especially the Army) and the will of the people of this country. We will see if we have what it takes to stick with something that is dangerous and slow, as opposed to quick, frothy and low-risk "flavour of the minute".

Cheers
 
ArmyMedic, trust me man not a single soldier I know that went through 2 FD Amb's stand from my Coy thought it was a joke or useless, In fact I think I paid more attention in that day and half then the other 2 stands combined, Not that the other stands were bad, well ok the MP run stand was silly and well we wont get into that.

Doc if you get the chance seriously pass on my thanks to your team of guys who worked to set up that stand and put the people through, no matter what happens when we get over there you guys can look at yourself and know you did all you could to save the lives of us sharp end people and passed on some stellar knowledge.

To the topic at hand Pro Patria my VP brothers, hope you recover soonest, and good shooting!
 
http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060303/afghan_canada_bomb_060304

Cdn. soldier injured in axe attack in Afghanistan
CTV.ca News Staff

A Canadian soldier in Afghanistan is in critical but stable condition after being attacked by a man wielding an axe during a meeting with tribal elders today.

The reservist soldier, Lieutenant Trevor Greene, of Vancouver was initially taken to the Canadian-led multinational hospital at Kandahar airfield where he underwent treatment for head wounds. He will now be airlifted to the U.S. medical facility in Landstuhl, Germany, said CTV's Steve Chao, in Kandahar.

Early reports suggested Greene was injured in a firefight with insurgents. It was later learned that Greene was attacked during a sit-down meeting with tribal elders when a man struck him in the back of the neck with an axe.

"He was surrounded by many local tribesmen as well as Canadian soldiers," Chao told CTV Newsnet. "However as the meeting began, we understand, a man with an axe came out and attacked him. Immediately following there was chaos, Canadian soldiers opened fire, we understand, after some grenades were lobbed by some other attackers.

"The initial attacker with the axe was killed on the spot, however the other one appeared to have perhaps gotten away," Chao said.

The attack happened in Gumbad, about 70 kilometres north of Kandahar City, today.

"At this moment Lt. Trevor Greene is in hospital here at the Kandahar Airfield Base. He is critical condition, in rough shape. He was unconscious the last time we checked."

This is not the first time Greene has suffered an injury. He was hurt earlier when a convoy he was traveling with was hit by a roadside bomb, however Greene returned to duty after that attack.

Earlier, Chao said the Gumbad area has been the scene of many attacks on U.S. troops in recent months. It is known for its narrow, twisting roads that provide prime spots for insurgents to mount ambush attacks, making troops feel like "sitting ducks," he said.

"This area of Gumbad is well known not only to soldiers but to many people in Kandahar. It is a hotbed of insurgent activity," Chao said.

Military commanders have stressed that Canadian troops in Afghanistan will face danger and death to accomplish their purpose.

"The Canadians have been up there trying to push out the Taliban," Chao said. "From the start the Canadian commander said as soon as they took over command, which happened this week, they would begin to push out, make their presence known throughout the province of Kandahar so the Taliban could be pushed out of the area."

It has been a difficult week for Canadian troops. On Friday a suicide bomber drove his vehicle into the side of an armoured vehicle and detonated his explosives, injuring five Canadian soldiers -- one seriously.

Master Cpl. Michael Loewen, who suffered the most serious injuries in the Friday attack, will require major reconstructive surgery to save his arm, a surgeon told The Canadian Press. Loewen was taken to the U.S. combat casualty hospital at Landstuhl, Germany Friday night.

Four others had minor wounds and will be allowed to return to duty.

The Friday attack came as coalition forces were mourning the death of Canadian Cpl. Paul Davis, who died Thursday when his armoured vehicle rolled over.

A suicide bomb killed Canadian diplomat Glyn Berry six weeks ago.

In total, two Canadians have died and about 20 have been injured in Afghanistan this year, as the Canadian presence in Afghanistan increased to about 2,200 troops.

 
Armymedic said:
I am going into work today to teach Tactical medicine/Cbt first aid TMST to members of the Battlegroup heading off in Aug...
If they do not pay attention to our instruction after this last 3 days, then they never will...

Hope for a speedy recovery. The care they are getting there is the best the CF can provide.

Armymedic,

Went through your stand the other day, thought the information and training provided was excellent, and the scenarios really get you thinking.
 
Greetings Big Bad John, wherever you are...this is David Progreso writing from Yucatan Mexico,

That was a very nasty blow...best wishes for a speedy recovery

I was last in Afghanistan about forty years ago. Kabul, was the only place in Asia where you could write a personal cheque and the
money changer would give you Afghanis on the spot. Are they still there in their little wooden shacks?

My last indirect contact with Afghanistan was in Calcutta in 1990.It was a visit with Field Marshall retd Sam Manekshaw,Indian Army...a great warrior.

He was in his eighties, but very chipper. Told some great stories about his time in the Northwest Frontier Province...where the Cdns are now.

I can still recall the gleam in his eye when he said..."Chased the bandits in the hills for six months, and then the ladies in Bombay for two..it was a good life for a young fellow".

While you are in Afghanistan look for lapus lazuli...it is a very positive gemstone...and beautiful too.

And if you have stomach problems...it may be giardia. Hard to diagnose, but can really slow you down.

cheers













 
Armymedic said:
I am going into work today to teach Tactical medicine/Cbt first aid TMST to members of the Battlegroup heading off in Aug...

OT:
Is this the only time they will get Tac Med trg during TMST? It seems to me that having 7 months between the training event & deployment is going to allow for a fair bit of skill fade.
 
Having read the account of the incident it seemed to me the Lt's attacker violated Afghan custom in attacking a guest.
 
....er.....BIG time.

Regards
 
Development.......

Guys in theater take note!

Afghan villagers won't say who axe-wielding attacker of Canadian was
19:14:46 EST Mar 4, 2006
LES PERREAUX



KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (CP) - The attack sounds like the work of a madman, an axe-wielding attempt at murder rather than an act of war.

Lieut. Trevor Greene was chatting with dozens of elders near his forward base in Gumbad when an Afghan villager pulled an axe with a 60-centimetre handle from inside his clothing.

The villager, in his 20s, held the axe high over Greene's head and yelled "Allah Akbar" - God is Great - the signature call of an Islamist suicide attacker.

The man fulfilled his destiny. He delivered his nearly lethal blow and then died where he stood, his body riddled with bullets from Capt. Kevin Schamuhn and two of his fellow soldiers.

Schamuhn, Greene's platoon commander, was sure Greene was dead.

"It was my initial assessment that Trevor was dead on impact because of the force with which the axe hit his head," Schamuhn recounted Saturday.

"Fortunately, that was not the case."

The notion the act was of a lone maniac quickly disappeared.

While villagers scattered in all directions, enemy small-arms fire broke out from across the river. Canadians and their Afghan allies returned fire. Then, as things calmed slightly, another man moved toward coalition forces and tossed a hand grenade.

The Afghans and Canadians returned fire again as the grenade exploded harmlessly. Schamuhn believes the man was hit but the grenade attacker scurried away in the mayhem.

As things calmed down, a U.S. Blackhawk helicopter whisked Greene away to a Canadian hospital at Kandahar Airfield. He remains there in serious condition, awaiting a plane ride to Germany and home.

The Afghans and Canadians went into the village to find answers. All they found were seven old men and some women and children.

"There were no fighting-age males there," said Schamuhn.

"The leaders we had been speaking to earlier had disappeared and all the young men that we were talking to had disappeared."

No villager would say who the dead attacker was.

The platoon from Company A of the Princess Patricia's Light Infantry brigade in Afghanistan was making a series of stops in small villages Saturday from their forward operating base 70 kilometres north of Kandahar.

Moving into rural areas is a key part of Canada's plan to bring security and reconstruction to Kandahar province.

Villagers in a meeting hours earlier welcomed them with blankets and bread and meats.

The meetings with local leaders are known as shura and are key to getting anything done in rural areas.

The fateful meeting was off to a good start when the attacker struck, Schamuhn said.

The first hint of trouble could only be seen in the light of hindsight, he said.

"About two or three minutes prior to the incident, all the children that were present were escorted away, about 20 to 30 metres away," Schamuhn recalled.

"But none of us picked up on this, there was no weird feeling, no gut feeling that something was about to go down."

Schamuhn has grown to trust villagers through dozens of encounters. He and Greene had removed their helmets and set down their arms in a sign of respect and trust.

"I'm sure I've shaken hands with some people who have plotted against us," he said.

"You can't tell."

Schamuhn said he had started to believe the oft-repeated Afghan contention that foreigners are causing all the trouble. He doesn't believe it now.

"This guy, he was a local villager from this village who was coerced or persuaded by some outside force to do this against us," Schamuhn said.

"We were completely vulnerable to them and they took complete advantage of that. There was a lot of people who knew what was about to happen."

Schamuhn and his men were back Saturday night in their small camp near Gumbad. They stay in a mud-walled farmers compound, with razor wire providing an outside ring of security.

Schamuhn said his men are fine, although sleep would not come easy this night. They are warriors, he said.

"My guys are ready to fight again. They're ready to go back out and do their job."

"They are ready to go and protect and continue on this mission. They are not afraid."



© The Canadian Press, 2006
 
They even break their own customs.  This can't reflect well on the other tribes.
 
So lets AAR that article:

1. The notion af Afghan men not wishing to see Allah sooner, and martyring themsevles seems not to be correct any more,
2. When the children are being herded away from you as a soldier, put your guard up, and
3. If something. no matter how insignificant is different or seems out of place...it probably is for a reason. They made it that way.
 
I really hope Lt. Greene makes a full recovery.

I met him during the North Saskatchewan Regiment's Armistice Ball this past November, when I sat beside him at the dinner table.  We started talking the regular chit-chat, and he asked what I was taking at university, and I mentioned International Studies... but thinking about leaving that and taking Journalism instead.  Then he told me that he was a journalist and we just hit it off after that... with him feeding me with lots of stories and advice.

Such a weird feeling when you go to the CBC website, notice that another soldier has been injured in Afghanistan... click on the story, and see someone that you know.
 
I read an article on a Canadian media website that named one of the soldiers that shot and killed the attacker.  Good on him, that attack was the height of cowardice, but seems to be par for the course for these people.  Best wishes to Lt. Greene, I've never met him but from what I've read here he seems like a helluva guy. :salute:

But isn't there a restriction on publishing the names of soldiers in that context, as killing someone?  It struck me as a little odd, I don't think I've ever seen it before.  Doesn't that kind of thing pose a risk to his family?
 
It is against policy to "officially" release the names of CF members involved in shootings of any kind. However, don't forget that has nothing to do with some civvy reporter that was on scene (or heard from loose lips back in camp) putting the name out there.
My family's best to the Lt.  :salute: (ninerdomestic wanted that noted)
 
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